Carwash Crawler - Build Thread... again.

[carwash]

Well, being without a job has given me a lot of time to work on this damn rig... Idle hands are the tool of the devil.

I put some catch cans, or curved plates more than cans i guess. I wanted to attach these since my bumps hit my links, and the links have some movement left and right under articulation. These will allow the bump to still hit a surface when this happens.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_729.jpg

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http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_733.jpg

I just hope that welding these on won't weaken these links too much. but then again, i see all kinds of comp rigs etc that have the air shock mounts etc welded to this link, and that is a lot more stress than this bump will be.

[carwash]

finally finished the dash and all the floor panels. what a *****. got pretty good by the end, figuring out which way to bend and break the plates. I will tell you i will never again use round tubing to do the trans/tcase tunnel. Square tubing would have made it so much easier.

some might say im overkill with so many tabs and 3/8 bolts, but it's what i had, and wanted all the tabs everywhere to be the same. What the large amount are for more than anything is to keep the sound and buzzing down.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_734.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_736.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_737.jpg

And i never thought hood pins would have been such a ridiculous pain in the ass...

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_739.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_740.jpg

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[carwash]

And now starts the tear-down for final welding. I can only dream that it will go back together as quick... hahhah.

Here are some shots of the rig at full compression. Took off the air shocks, and the bumps are sitting at full compression on their pads. Clearance is pretty damn tight in a couple areas, mainly with the rotors and chassis. But even with jumping up and down on it really hard with my full fat ass weight, i can't get them to hit, so all should be good to go I guess.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_742.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_743.jpg

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Starts to look funny as an empty carcass again. All that's left to remove is the axles and links, and i will be welding for 2 days straight or so.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_751.jpg

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More to come soon. Recruited my daughter to screw bolts into all the tabs so that they don't get a bunch of weld spatter in them. I'd rather waste a few bolts than have to run a tap through every tab.

[sarge]

Looks good Mike , So what is your plan of attack ? You gonna start at one corner and work( weld ) your way all the way around or something else . I know I always seem to forget a weld and don't catch it until paint :beers:

[Nuts]

Holy hell that floor had to take forever! I took the lazy way out and just put panels for my firewall, trans tunnel, and where my feet go. Everything under the seats back is open,lol! And Hood pins are a stupid PITA. Nice work on everything!!!

[carwash]

I'm glad someone else knows my Hood Pin pain. Yes the floor took about 2 years, hahhah. I wanted the whole floor in 1/8 and firewall in 1/4 for protection. Lots of driveshaft parts etc, i'd rather not have as a part of my ass or back of my legs... peace of mind i guess.

Sarge, i plan on jumping around quite a bit, to keep the warpage to a minimum. I will make sure i don't miss any, don't worry. You can come down and do a once over on it for me.

[sarge]

I'll pass on that hahahaha , I can hear it know ! " Yea that missed one there was on Sarges side !! " :beers:

[humpy]

i saw this rig in person last night..it is totally sick....cant wait to see it on the trail...thanks again for the tubing mike will look u up 4 more when ready...

[carwash]

great to meet you Humpy, can't wait to wheel with you soon. thanks for the props on the rig as well... I'm too close to it now to even enjoy it anymore.

[carwash]

Well, I'm about 3/4 done welding the chassis. Would be done, but had to pause to add some more bracing on the lower link mounts. It's funny, didn't think at all about them being weak until i had it all tore down and was looking at it.

Sucked, cuz i had to do some recalling and picture searching to see what kind of bracing i could put where. It's like 10 gallons of **** in a 5 gallon bucket under there. Can't imagine building a smaller narrower rig.... where does everything go?

Here are some shots of it before i started welding it, i thought it looked pretty cool. Also, i wish i had finish welded some parts of it before moving on, as there are quite a few spots that are really hard to get to know... Some of my welds are starting to look mediocre as well, pusing 4-6 hours at a time probably isnt smart.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_754.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_756.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_758.jpg

And it's bizzarre how much more space a rig takes up when it is disassembled. I can't even move inside the shop now.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_760.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_762.jpg

And here are a couple shots of of the extra bracing i put on the link mounts. I hope it holds, it's about the best i can do with the space i am given. the front only has the vertical brace on one side, as the other side has the pillow block mount. Cross your fingers.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_772.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_770.jpg

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http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_763.jpg

Should be done welding this week, and possibly in paint as early as next weekend. having it done electrostatic...

[KargoMaster]

Also, i wish i had finish welded some parts of it before moving on...

I believe I will do more of that... for that reason... didn't I say some thing to that effect in '06?

I think it looks like **** CW... you're right, mediocre welds, design weaknesses, give it to me and you can start fresh...

<wipes drool from chin and keyboard.>

Seriously... sexy.

[cheapthrills49]

I believe I will do more of that... for that reason... didn't I say some thing to that effect in '06?

I think it looks like **** CW... you're right, mediocre welds, design weaknesses, give it to me and you can start fresh...

<wipes drool from chin and keyboard.>

Seriously... sexy.

LOL GOOD ****!

[carwash]

Top side all welded, flipped for the bottom side welds. This REALLY sucks to do by yourself. Damn thing is heavy as hell, surprise surprise....

Anyway, check out my mad flex! Ha. I think it looks like a space ship when it's upside down, or maybe a coleworx chassis...

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_773.jpg

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My painter comes next Monday... doing Electrostatic Paint. Pretty cool, he comes to me, no overspray, etc. And as cheap as i could do it myself. I have about 12 hours of welding left probably.

[ITLLFLI]

Looking good!:beers:

[sarge]

Cole Worx ........ What ever Biatch ! dream on .... :D :D :D

Just rubb'n ya ! looks good Mike .

I have a suggestion , Why dont you just do a one color paint and then have a wrap made . Makes trail scars so much easier to cover up . :beers:

[carwash]

cuz chicks dig trail scars... what do you care anyway, you don't even wheel anymore fag.

i have thought of that idea tho, just doing my panels in a plain red, then getting decals to apply. But i thought it would be cool to do the multi step process, just to do it. Thing is tho, then i'm stuck with the paint job.

[blazerbrad]

Needs more triangulation!
















:evilgrin: Ha, couldn't resist. Damn, there is more tubing than a NASCAR chassis.

[carwash]

hell yeah, cuz i plan on balling it up in turn 3...

[cheapthrills49]

how many feet of tubing u think u have in it all together, i guess 600?

[itbrokeagain]

So when do we find out the guess the weight winner?

[carwash]

So when do we find out the guess the weight winner?
when it's built you tard.

[carwash]

how many feet of tubing u think u have in it all together, i guess 600?
I hope that was a joke of a guess... Imma guess about 220 or so. I could do a rough measure i guess when i'm done.

Want one?

[jeepmanjeff]

yes I do.

Looks good but looks like it will weigh alot!!!

Much sturdier looking than my Fiberglass tub I have...bet it won't crack under pressure either...At least I hope not hahahahahah.:beers:

[carwash]

i could hook you up jeff... say the word. will be heavy yes, but i bet only about 1000 pounds more than yours. and yes, won't crack.

[jeepmanjeff]

mine weighs 4,200 wet with me in it I think...

[carwash]

well, i will probably have 1500 pounds on you then.

[carwash]

Well, my painter left about an hour ago. Had the chassis, links, couple panels, etc all electrostatically painted. Amazing process, blew me away actually. Chassis charged negative, paint charged positive, just like powder coating, but no oven and it's done on-site, with no overspray at all. It's a perfectly clean and mess free process. Should be easier to paint match as well, powercoating is a ***** to paint match in a rattle can or spray. Painter left me about a quart of extra paint as well, ready to use for touch up.

Was primed first in a standard epoxy primer. The prep work to paint took me freakin' forever. Wiped it all twice with denatured alcohol after wirebrushing the entire thing. I wanted the paint to stick well and look good.

Here are some shots of it in prime. The primer isn't that different than the actual color. Went a little darker on the paint, close to a battleship gray. This paint mfr. called it "platform gray".

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_780.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_781.jpg

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The paint application is bizarre. I was expecting a fog of paint, like an hvlp gun throws, but it was more like fine paint spatter drops coming out from an odd slinging ring. It wraps right around the tube covering almost the entire tube while painting from one side.

Some shots of it painted... I was amazed at the thickness of the paint and the high gloss that it dried with.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_786.jpg

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All that is required is that the part being painted can be grounded. he did this by tying into the ground of my shop through an outlet. I also had my links, supports, crossmember, bump cans, etc painted. I rigged up a piece of hanging metal, then hung each part from it by wired. This way he only had to attach to one part and the entire rack of parts was grounded. I did the two rear inner panels the same color as the chassis as well to make the outer panel pop more. they are aluminum, so we will cross or fingers to see how well the paint holds up on them.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_789.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_790.jpg

One more money shot of the finished paintjob. Damn I'm happy. Now for the rebuild.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_791.jpg

[fabricator]

looks good mike
congrads

[KargoMaster]

Nice!!! That looks super, super easy... (barring prep)

you working on it tomorrow/Wed... ??
you might get a visitor/assembler.

[tjjeepjeep]

Looking great Mike!!

[mckeddie]

when i worked at honda, that is how all the cars were painted in the surfacer booth, the cars had a negative charge, guns positive. you didn't even have to aim at hte cars to paint them (line 2 was painted by people, new line was robotic). it was awesome painting in there all night, really sucked when you got the gun close to your zipper though when touching the trigger, felt like someone was ripping your pubes out.

chasis looks awesome, can't wait to see it assembled and the skins painted! great choice of colors! i love a gray chasis!

[Nuts]

How long did it take,and did he prime and paint in the same day?

[cheech]

Gary Engle taking care of business

[carwash]

Gary Engle taking care of business
Gary Engle indeed, you know him as well? I was put in touch with him by another buddy, race car guy.

[carwash]

How long did it take,and did he prime and paint in the same day?
Yes, he primed and painted same day. He got to my place at about 10 a.m. and was gone by about 2:30 latest. So, 4.5 hours, including all of his setup and cleanup.

[carwash]

Nice!!! That looks super, super easy... (barring prep)

you working on it tomorrow/Wed... ??
you might get a visitor/assembler.
I don't think im gonna touch it until this weekend. I have spent WAY too much time out in the shop the past few weeks, and with the holidays coming up, i'm sure i will be a bit busy.

I also wanted to let it cure for a few days for sure, just to be sure it was not going to get fudged. I still need to do some axle prep and welding, etc. Have a motor to build, etc...

Will let you know when i'm gonna be back out there. I'm sure i will be itching before long.

[DEZROCKS]

How much did that guy charge to paint it?

[carwash]

I can't tell you how much i paid... but a chassis along these lines would probably cost someone about 5 bills.

[Nuts]

Yes, he primed and painted same day. He got to my place at about 10 a.m. and was gone by about 2:30 latest. So, 4.5 hours, including all of his setup and cleanup.

YOU SUCK! I have the better part of a week painting mine,and it still looks like crap!

[cheech]

Gary Engle indeed, you know him as well? I was put in touch with him by another buddy, race car guy.

I have been going to Florence for the past 20 years on and off. Every Saturday during season for the past two years . Would I be assuming correctly if the Brandon your are referring to in some of your post is Brandon Green?
Into wheeling also, not into the club thing much, just lurk here mostly and chime in if not to lazy to type as you can tell by my ultra high post count.

[carwash]

cheech, yes brandon green is the one i speak of. very good friend of mine. I live about 300 yards form the dirt track, so i am immersed in the racing every saturday night whether i like it or not.

small world, eh?

[tinbeater]

Lookin good Wash.
If you keep it up it should be done in a couple more years???:D

[carwash]

Lookin good Wash.
If you keep it up it should be done in a couple more years???:D
****

[tinbeater]

****


:D :D

[Coby]

lookin good bro.

[carwash]

I'm missing my little Mexican helper. You should stop by.

[carwash]

The rebuild is really a good time, so far. Couple glitches here and there, but nothing that i can't easily fix. Here are some shots of reassembly.

Final weld and paint and steering on front axle, and hung under.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_797.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_793.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_803.jpg

Here, front and rear under and ready to roll...

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_806.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_801.jpg

And here is my first glitch... the bottom left bolt boss on my TH400 busted off. Don't know when or how. Looks like it had been broken for a long time because the there was a lot of oil down in the cast. Only about 1/6th of the hole is gone. I can see the bolt as it threads in, but it seems to hold some. Im gonna run it, would you? I torqued down the remaining 5 really good, and put a good amount of tightness on the broken one, and it seems to be holding just fine.

Cross your fingers for me.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_807.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_796.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_795.jpg


Second glitch: Set my tranny in place, got it where it needs to go. There are 6 bolts that hold it to the STAK. Two of them are put in with the adapter as i bolt it to the trans. If not, you can't get them into it. Well one of those, the bottom one, is blocked by the plate on my trans skid. I can't get to the damn thing to tighten it. So i had to cut a 2x10" section out of the 1/4" plate so that i could get a wrench up there. Sucks to have to cut and grind on the freshly painted parts, oh well.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_810.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_809.jpg

More to come soon, should get the STAK in tomorrow, and starting teardown on my motor...

[carwash]

Well damn.... never thought it would be so difficult to stick a t-case into a rig, especially when the damn rig was built around the tcase. you'd think it would slip right in... nope.

It goes in thru the top, sideways, then slips in, turn and slides over. Has to clear the tabs for the back mount the somehow slide under the bar that give is about 1/16" clearance, then somehow get the splines to meet up with the tranny, then somehow get some damn rtv smeared on it.

If that isnt bad enough, 2 of the 6 bolts that hold it all together are damn near impossible to get to. And then they tighten at the rate of about a 1/10 of a turn at a time. Christ. I have dealt with trannys and tcases in tights spots before, but this is ridiculous. And being all tube, it seems like it would be a lot easier. ugh.

Here are some shot of the tranny tcase combo in place and bolted in, waiting for the engine.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_811.jpg

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So, here is the bolt that added about a half hour to this process. this is the same bolt that required i cut this panel out of the freshly painted skid plate. That sucked.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_814.jpg

And for those that asked (again) about the skid being solid mounted, you can see the poly mounts in this pic. There are four, one at each corner. You can only see two in this pic, but the other two are just opposite.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_815.jpg

I have decided that if (read WHEN) i need to pull this tcase and trans back out for any kind of repair or replacement, i'm going to cut out the interior tubing for easier access. It is all non-structural tubing and would make install and take out much much easier. I thought about doing it right now, but can't bring myself to cutting apart the freshly painted thing... ugh. No reason to do it now tho, will be just as fast and easy when it comes time, sawzall, etc. Flanges, squirt some metal, done.

Maybe i will get lucky and never have to pull it... hahaahhah.



So, now motor teardown for rebuild... I'm on a roll now.

[carwash]

HA, so read above "So, now motor teardown for rebuild... I'm on a roll now." My roll stopped abruptly when we tore into my first motor. We should have done some more checking on the motor before doing any work to it at all. put new oil pump and screen on, put new cam in, new timing on it, then started charging the cylinders to pull the springs... Or i should say we TRIED to charge the cylinders, and couldn't get one of them to hold any air. In fact, the valves were so hung open that it was spewing RUST and **** out the intake and exhaust ports...

So, in my opinion, that motor is junk. It's the orange one in the back of the truck in the pic below. Has peanut port heads, recessed pistons, and way too big combustion chambers to make any power, to make it worth a $400 head rebuild. Piece of crap, was only supposed to be a temporary motor until i built my second one.

So, we move to the second motor, GenV truck motor. Also peanut heads, but smaller chambers, etc. We put air to each cylinder, and they are sealed up perfect, until the 8th one. Bent valve, bad. So bent i could hardly hammer it in. So, this motor also was so low power that it wasn't worth putting a $400 head job into. I was only using this one for the block originally to build up.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_820.jpg

So back to the drawing board, i needed a motor. My buddy Byron's (ITTLFLI on here) father happens to be a great motor builder, and happened to have a motor for me that had just built and dyno'd. Even better, he offered to trade it to me for these two motors, some parts, and a little cash. So of course i jumped on it... here it is below...

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_821.jpg

GenVI 454, .030 over, roller lifters, domed pistons, oversized pushrods, 088 rect port heads, rect port alum GM intake, etc... Did 407hp and 486 lb/ft of torque on the dyno, he included the sheet with it. Should be all the motor i need.

I ordered a set of rocker studs for it so i can throw my rollers on it and had to exchange the flex plate, as they are different between MarkIV and GenVI. So, should drop it in next week, let you know how it goes.

[94Dodge Truggy]

Should suck the propane in at an alarming rate! I can't wait to hear this monster fire up! Will the crawler be running by the time of the benifit?

[KargoMaster]

... Should be all the motor i need...

As if we don't know you... Reeeeeeeally?

Nice to see you're still chugging away at it. I'll def. be down in Feb... :o

[carwash]

Should suck the propane in at an alarming rate! I can't wait to hear this monster fire up! Will the crawler be running by the time of the benifit?
the benefit in like august? I surely hope so...

[carwash]

As if we don't know you... Reeeeeeeally?

Nice to see you're still chugging away at it. I'll def. be down in Feb... :o
Well, i'm hoping it's enough motor... but i'm already looking for a 502 block to build me an 11:1 540... So, i guess you reeeeeally do know me.

When you wanna come turn some wrenches?

[sarge]

You need to get Byron ( ITTLFLY ) to give you that 502 he is test firing on youtube !!! :cool: :cool: :cool:

[carwash]

ask byron about his 588...

[sarge]

John ( the guy that built your tranny ) sold his dragster and got a 68 pro street Camaro , he just got a 672 crate motor and is going to build it . I can't wait to see that thing :eek:

[carwash]

6(six)72 ???? holy chit. You must mean 5(five)72...

[blazerbrad]

I'm jealous of that motor, especially considering I'm use to 160 h.p. in a 6,000 lb. truck.... 78Buford runs a 460 that desktop dyno'd (take that number for what it's worth, but usually at least within reason) at 340 hp, 525 ft-lbs. He can hit 5,000 rpm at will with a 19:1 overall ratio in a 6,000 lb. truck with 42's, so that's crazy wheelspeed.

[CFD5]

You need to get Byron ( ITTLFLY ) to give you that 502 he is test firing on youtube !!! :cool: :cool: :cool:

Talking about the Blown 502 on the test stand? That one's mine, it's in my boat. 502, B&M 420, Worked heads. Hell of a motor. ITLLFLI has a crazy 540 in his boat, and a 588 just in case.:eek:

[carwash]

Talking about the Blown 502 on the test stand? That one's mine, it's in my boat. 502, B&M 420, Worked heads. Hell of a motor. ITLLFLI has a crazy 540 in his boat, and a 588 just in case.:eek:
Tim?

[CFD5]

Yep,

hillbilly.

[carwash]

Redneck. Go build a truggy.

[CFD5]

Redneck. Go build a truggy.


Can I borrow the plans you used on this build?:D :beers:

[94Dodge Truggy]

Redneck. Go build a truggy.

Leave truggy out of this!

[sarge]

6(six)72 ???? holy chit. You must mean 5(five)72...

My bad ... he said he was going to end up with 672 ish :eek:

[sarge]

Talking about the Blown 502 on the test stand? That one's mine, it's in my boat. 502, B&M 420, Worked heads. Hell of a motor. ITLLFLI has a crazy 540 in his boat, and a 588 just in case.:eek:


I watched all of the videos on youtube of you guys and I have to say Damn ... you burned more fuel in those video clips then I burn on a long weekend at the lake :beers: but then again .... if I didn't have the kiddies ..........

[CFD5]

That was a fun weekend, this years Lake Cumberland Poker run. Byrons brother and I have the same boat. Both blown 502's, 25 Powerplay's. Pretty rare boat, only two I/O's that I know of. Maybe only a handfull of them built. Blew the outdrive the last day heading back to the dock so that weekend turned into an expensive one. That was the "break-in" weekend for my motor so we were "taking it easy":beers:
Carwash's 454 is a very stout motor, should be plenty of Tq for him.

[sarge]

I will be at the Poker run this year ( if they have it :mad: ) My nieghbor has a new Baja 232 . We're just going to party not race .

[carwash]

Can I borrow the plans you used on this build?:D :beers:
plans? ha... he says plans.

pater, post a pic of your previous abortion on wheels so he can see what a "truggy" really looks like... or even better, a pic of the one we wheeled with at harlan, that had the hood for the roof...

[fabricator]

plans? ha... he says plans.

pater, post a pic of your previous abortion on wheor even better, a pic of the one we wheeled with at harlan, that had the hood for the roof...

this one?

[carwash]

thank you Rob. Now Tim... That is a truggy.

[fabricator]

The hood is under the left tire...

[carwash]

ah i thought he repurposed the hood for the roof... i see it now.

[Hope Springs Hauler]

this one?

Dude, I knew I shouldn't have gotten rid of my old 78 cherokee. It could have looked almost that good

[cheapthrills49]

Dude, I knew I shouldn't have gotten rid of my old 78 Cherokee. It could have looked almost that good

Cherokee, hell im pretty sure a few years ago we ran into him it still had a ford hood and grill and that piece on top is the roof fastened 2 the cage. im almost positive its a 78 ford full size:confused:

[Hope Springs Hauler]

I had a cherokee that was rusted to hell. I could have done this with it:p

I decided that it was time to get rid of it when I had to shoot my way out of it, literally.

Cherokee, hell im pretty sure a few years ago we ran into him it still had a ford hood and grill and that piece on top is the roof fastened 2 the cage. im almost positive its a 78 ford full size:confused:

[carwash]

Motor is in... slipped in there like that greased octopus from that video i saw a few months ago...

Byron and the crew came down last night and we tossed it in there, after installing a stud kit and my HS roller rockers. With motor in, i have just enough room for an air cleaner (once i find one that will work for me...) under the closed hood. Sweet, as that was a big worry.

Here are some shots out of the rig and into the chassis, with headers and all... didn't get to finish dressing it with the rest of the junk.... more pics to come later.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_822.jpg

Those rockers are pretty. Only reason i got them is cuz they are orange... jk. Byron did his magic adjusting the valves, i'm sure it will purr.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_823.jpg

dropped in and bolting it up...

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_824.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_825.jpg

In and with headers and covers on... Makes me all giddy.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_826.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_827.jpg


Now i got LOTS of little **** to do.

[fabricator]

You are so gonna run out of fuel in Harlan.
looks good....

[carwash]

yes, and you will be running back to camp to get me some tanks... i hope.

i will switch to gasoline if i have to i guess at some point, but i think they will last good enough.

[xj-up]

Looks good, Not bad if you like wearing bowties. A 440 would drop right in there.

Later,:beers:

[carwash]

bowties are less painful on the wallet, that's for sure.

[xj-up]

Without a doubt. You're right about that.

Mopar prices are threw the roof.

[KargoMaster]

Looking good.... Like I said last page...

I'll def. be down in Feb... :o

[sarge]

here's something to look at :

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=700+115+327703&D=327703

[carwash]

that's exactly what i'm looking for Sarge, but in a plastic, and less than $100. ugh. I know there has to be some stock applications where i can junkyard find something.

[Nuts]

that's exactly what i'm looking for Sarge, but in a plastic, and less than $100. ugh. I know there has to be some stock applications where i can junkyard find something.

How big does it have to be? I have a plastic one sitting here with about 3" inlet,and its probably 3.5" where it bolts to the carb/throttle body, and its about 2" tall. I'll run out and measure it in a min to get the real numbers, but if it'll work you can have it

[sarge]

that's exactly what i'm looking for Sarge, but in a plastic, and less than $100. ugh. I know there has to be some stock applications where i can junkyard find something.

AAAAHHHH I see , build fully custom buggy on a super budget and buck on a $100 air hat :D :D :D

If I get down to the yard I'll see what I can find.

[carwash]

Thanks Nuts!!!

Sarge, i have used all the money. It's gone. the rest of this build is on a tight budget.

[sarge]

I figured that ..... I just saw a chance to jerk your chain a little

[JeffK5]

Build one ... I've got a small sheet of 6061-T6 Alu. sheet that I'll donate.

If I had a tig welder and welding ability and a rig like this a sweet little fab'd air box would finish the engine bay off nicely.


Jeff

[carwash]

ha, well my tig skills are getting quite a bit better, but man, aluminum has a mind of its own. I'm not ready to make my own intake yet, and i really don't want to spend a whole weekend doing it.

Thanks for the offer on the sheet, but i know i can find something ready to run that will work. By the way, see you in a little while... haha.

[Nuts]

Once I found it I remembered why I didn't use it. It came off a Van so the the intake points straight up. If you have low hood clearance its not going to work,sorry for getting your hopes up...

[carwash]

Thanks for the effort anyway man!

[carwash]

man, it's getting close. brad and i worked on it for about 12 hours last weekend. got a ton of stuff nailed down. There is an ass load of small stuff at this point. Took us about 3 hours of suspension cycling to measure for limit straps, etc.

Brake pedals in, propane parts mounted, trans shield in (had to redrill all the holes and use thru bolts, this was *****, since it's already installed), rear floors in, rear seat in, rear interior side panels on, front suspension adjusted, damn, wheels/tires back on, converted yokes back on the STAK, driveshafts in, pillow block mounted. Im sure im forgetting about 100 things we did...

Amazing how fast a day goes. No pics, cuz nothing really looks any different yet.

[carwash]

most of the build at this point is aggravating... everything seems to take 10 times longer than i plan, and at the end of the day i feel like i have done nothing...

Anyway, got a lot of the interior panels in so i can start putting in dependent items, etc. Mocking up dash with cardboard, i'd leave it cardboard if we didnt live in a wet climate, ha!

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_828.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_829.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_830.jpg

Shot of some of the passenger interior panels as well as the triple stak boot. This boot mount was a *****, as it likes ti have the shifter linkage sitting lower than this. Took some massaging to make it work.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_843.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_844.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_843.jpg

Couple overall shots of the rig as it sits right now. Getting there, still hundreds o miles to go tho. If you've ever wondered why turnkey rigs cost so much... it's in the small stuff.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_842.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_840.jpg

[94Dodge Truggy]

Those tires dry rotted yet? You have the body panels completed for it already correct? I like the angled guages! Wheres the radio going?

[carwash]

yeah, the original tires fell apart, had to buy new ones, asshole. all panels are finished, need to DA with 400 then paint. Angled gauges are nice. Funny how fast u run out of dash space. 12.5" wide switch panel doesnt help i guess.

[KargoMaster]

Looks nice CW... Pics never do this rig justice though.

That's more guages than I thought you would run, but glad to see them....
RPM, oil pressure, water temp, trans temp, volts... What's #5?
You order your switch panel yet? Custom or one of the standard ones?

I can't wait 'till you fire this thing up...

[94Dodge Truggy]

Looks nice CW... Pics never do this rig justice though.

That's more guages than I thought you would run, but glad to see them....
RPM, oil pressure, water temp, trans temp, volts... What's #5?
You order your switch panel yet? Custom or one of the standard ones?

I can't wait 'till you fire this thing up...

The 5th guage is a clock I bet.

[fabricator]

yota crawl...?
April ?
3 hour drive.

[Nuts]

The 5th guage is a clock I bet.
Trans temp,or line pressure are my guesses.

[carwash]

5th one? You named 5. Tach, Oil pressure, Water Temp, Trans Temp, Volts.

Yes, ordered custom panel from Seabass... should be here in a couple weeks.

More pics later.

[KargoMaster]

Ha, I did, didn't I... ahh well... goes along with the rest of my day.

Call me when you're gonna be working on it.

[carwash]

Working on it now whenever i can find a spare minute. Gotta get it done, it's killing me.

Finished the dash tonight, in aluminum of course. Decided the cardboard wouldn't hold up very well. Well, it's done except for the switch panel from Seabass. The white block represents where it will live... 12.5x3.5". Can't wait to see it.

Left ball valve will be front brake lock out, and the right one will be the rear. The look kinda primitive i guess, but they will get the job done, and don't have the drawbacks of the other lockouts i researched.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_847.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_848.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_849.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_850.jpg

Closer shots of the ball-valve setups. They are simple Lance valves. I got them thru Afco, but they could be had at a lot of supply places im sure. They are stainless, etc, rated for high pressure hydraulics, not just water, etc.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_845.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_852.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_846.jpg

I'm running the plastic race car line setup, as least temporarily for now. If nothing else it will be good for knowing how long to get my high dollar aeroquip lines made. Every bit of my brake system is 1/8 npt fittings, masters cylinders, all compression fittings, calipers, ball valves. Everything except my brake light switch, it has inverted flare. So i either need to find adapters or find a different brake light switch.

Got my valve covers bolted down finally, making me able to install the three braces in the engine compartment and start routing all of my hoses. So much little crap, ugh.

[Nuts]

I stole your idea and got the plastic lines too. For 30 bucks and a 10 minute plumbing job it was worth a try:beers:

[carwash]

yeah, crossing my fingers... if they work for racecars, should work for us...

there are a few threads on pirate tho that argue otherwise.

[acousticrawk]

yeah, crossing my fingers... if they work for racecars, should work for us...

there are a few threads on pirate tho that argue otherwise.

why wouldnt they? are they dot approved? ive always wondered about plastic brake lines with shark bite fittings, or compression fittings like schedule 40.

[carwash]

legally, not sure. I know they are not as strong as a steel line, that's for sure. Compression fittings for hydraulic brake systems on commercial vehicles are not allowed.

I have heard of a few people that have broke a line during a panic 2 footed stop, etc. So, i'm not entirely sold on them, but i am using them for now.

Let me find the threads on pirate... i think i may have even started one...

[carwash]

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=643261&highlight=plastic+brake

[carwash]

and another...

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=664769&highlight=plastic+brake

[fabricator]

let me get this straight...

this tank is gonna be so heavy that it should have tracks, right?

you gonna have the wife and kids cruisin in it off side of mountains, right?

you are going to use plastic instead of steel brake lines, right?

why?

to save 2 hours labor and 20 bucks, right?

trying to get this clear in my mind?

[maddhatter]

let me get this straight...

this tank is gonna be so heavy that it should have tracks, right?

you gonna have the wife and kids cruisin in it off side of mountains, right?

you are going to use plastic instead of steel brake lines, right?

why?

to save 2 hours labor and 20 bucks, right?

trying to get this clear in my mind?



My thing is will the ID of the lines be enough to move enough fluid.
Will it weaken as the brake fluid get's really hot and will it hold the heat in the lines to well. I am very much wanting to see how these lines work out.

[carwash]

the more i think about it, the less i want to use them...

Spent a full day on it today...

got power steering pump on, finally got replacement pump from station. He sent me his new improved super pimp bad ass pump. Pulley installed on it, measured for a serp belt...Buy two at a time i guess, not bad to carry a spare. I wish the steering pulley wasn't aluminum, as i'm concerned if i have to remove it to swap pumps later or something, that i wont get any more use than just once out of it. Guess i could have one made from steel if need be.

Filled the STAK with fluid, so that i could put the last floor panel in. Gear oil was like glue, since it had been in the shop in the cold, so i heated it in front of the torpedo, still flowed crazy slow thru my tubing funnel thingy. I was a retard, and neglected to look at my STAK directions packet before starting to fill. I wasn't thinking at all, and just started throwing fluid in it, waiting for it to come out the fill hole, telling me it was full. When I got to 4 quarts, i realized that was way too much fluid, ha! So, i rifled thru all my stacks and stacks of paperwork looking for the STAK packet. In the meantime, i dialed up Jess at High Angle, knowing he would know that answer on capacity. Just as he said "2 quarts" i found the paperwork that says, "2 quarts". So i drained the damn thing, of course it drains right onto the damn crossmember, oh joy. I collected it all back into bottles, well almost all of it. Almost a quart stayed in the damn thing, the cold of the case turned it back into glue. Anyway, got 2 quarts back in it, plugged it and put the final floor panel on. Interior is complete. Even got the driver seat installed and seatbelts all bolted up...

List left of to do crap:
wiring
plumbing
steering lines
trans lines
radiator hoses
propane main feed line
axle vent hoses
air filter setup
prep and paint panels / hood / cowl
brake lines
switch panel
exhaust
fluids - diffs, trans, motor, steering
limit straps

ugh, im sure im forgetting about 3700 things.

[mckeddie]

the branik guys have run the plastic lines on all 3 buggies in xrra, and all over the place on the trails, they haven't had any probs yet, and stan, roscoe and dino beat the ever living piss out of those things. i'm thinking of switching mine over to it b/c i don't like teh way my lines are currently set up (single line runs to each axe, then there is a T fitting that splits the fluid to each caliper, makes bleeding them a *****).

greg

[carwash]

All interior panels in, all three seats in, the last of the exterior panels prepped. Heater hoses ran to propane setup, engine braces in, gauge hold downs finalized... some shots as it sits right now..

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_854.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_855.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_856.jpg

The boy approves. he has more seat time in it than i do at this point. Not really fair i guess.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_858.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_861.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_862.jpg

Ok, so next problem. With my required pulley setup, i had to relocate my alternator way high an on the right, directly in line with where my rad hose would head to the radiator from the water outlet.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_863.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_864.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_865.jpg

So I'm looking for a water outlet for a sbc or bbc that points somewhere around the 6:00 position. Then i also need a hose that can snaked around the alternator and still get to the inlet on the radiator.

I found some on summit that rotate 360 degrees, and some hoses that bend and kink where you want them...

This fitting has a nice 90 degree, and i can stick it where i want it. Its damn cheap too, which is odd for anything from summit lately it seems.

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/sum-371101.jpg

And here is a hose, that is stainless and flexible, comes with clamps, adapter ends, etc, but the damn thing is 80 bucks... guess i will look for something else, i can't pay 80 bucks for a radiator hose.

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/sum-390136.jpg

Today is brake lines, wish me luck. Shouldn't take too long. If i do decide i dont like the plastic lines or I'm afraid of them, what are my options for non plastic lines that use 1/8 npt fittings on the ends?

[JET455]

I like this one looks like he got caught doing #2 in your new seats!:p



http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_862.jpg

[acousticrawk]

I like this one looks like he got caught doing #2 in your new seats!:p



http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_862.jpg


i think youre baby looks liek a man child in that picture. he could be in one of those etrade commercials!

"shankopotomus!!!"
so funny.

i cant wait to see how this thing does on the trail.

[carwash]

Ok, so i started installing the plastic brake lines... here is a shot of the lines that go to and from the brake lockoff valves, and then some close up shots of each of the valves.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_866.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_867.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_868.jpg

And here is a shot of the lines from the master cylinders thru the firewall, and then back thru from the valves, etc...

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_869.jpg

And after doing all of this, and running the lines to the front and rear of the vehicle... i have decided to not run them. I don't like the way they look, work, feel, etc...

I'm afraid of them being nicked, snagged, ripped, etc. Even if i put all of the lines inside a protective sheath, like fuel line etc, then i won't be able to find a burst if (when) it happens.

I just dont trust them, so i'm gonna pull them all out and go with steel lines through out. Peace of mind i guess.

[sarge]

for your upper rad. hose , make one out of some exhaust tubing or scrap DOM . Use short rubber ends to mate it to the Rad. and the therm. housing and your good to go. You can bend your self or buy s few pre-bent pieces from Summit. Just brainstorming for ya.

[Flxratd]

for your upper rad. hose , make one out of some exhaust tubing or scrap DOM . Use short rubber ends to mate it to the Rad. and the therm. housing and your good to go. You can bend your self or buy s few pre-bent pieces from Summit. Just brainstorming for ya.

if you do that you will want to role a bead or weld a bead on the end of the tube for the hose to have something to bite on or when the pressure builds up the rubber hose will slide off and make a very nice mess of all your pretty parts (speaking from experience)

[carwash]

not sure if i even have room for a tube bend in there. But at this point, thats my plan. Might look for a factory hose that has a 90. I did buy an adjustble swivel 45 water neck, so the outlet isn't stuck behind the alternator anymore. Bend me up a wire to match my hose and head to the parts store i guess.

Good call on the welding a bead on the welded tube, thanks.

[fabricator]

So u drivin this turd yet?
you goin to Harlan with us?

[carwash]

not driving yet. finished the brakes, minus the braided drops. need to wire it, get propane feed line, exhaust, etc...

harlan when?

[tinbeater]

The first weekend in April.
You have time.

[carwash]

not enuf time... I'd say my first trip out will be memorial day, maybe to harlan.

[carwash]

These shots look good, almost like it's ready to go somewhere. Paint work done...

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_872.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_873.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_874.jpg

Switch panel arrived, from 12voltguy of course. It is a pretty thing. the backside looks like i might need to attend a year of electricians school to figure it out... Lets hope it's easier than it looks... very intimidating.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_875.jpg

Got rear limit straps done. Had to shave the top of one side of my link mounts for the straps to work. when tightened it was puting the webbing right against metal. wouldnt last long that way. Still have to do the fronts.

Got my list made for all my steering hose parts, just need to get it all. Gonna use reusable fittings, for ease of trail repair if necessary.

So, steering, trans lines, wiring, exhaust, propane feed... that might be it.

[itbrokeagain]

I like the resetable breakers and the indicator lights on the switch panel.

[carwash]

seabass does good work.

[fabricator]

bet that was cheap
lets see the back

[redcj3a]

seabass does good work.

Looks to me like Carwash does also.

[tinbeater]

Lookin good Wash.:beers:

[carwash]

you guys are too kind.

I will get a shot of the back for ya rob.

[Stang849]

Looking good Carwash!!!!.... what will only be another year or so before its on the trail.... JFWY :D :D

[JeepHD]

Been following the build, Looks awesome. Needs a nice Buckeyes logo on the side!:) (Hope that doesn't offend you)

[yellowjacket]

awe inspiring. id like to live in your shop.

[JeffK5]

I suggested the Buckeyes theme a year or so back... Mike was less than enthused...:rolleyes:

I have to say if I had the ability and the coin this is the exact rig I would build. Big diffs, big motor, big Boggers and low C.O.G.... once again , nice job Mike.

[carwash]

awe inspiring. id like to live in your shop.
Ha, your shop is nicer than mine!! what are you even talking about?!

Yeah, I'm not a college football fan, and if i was, i would make it Crimson Tide themed anyway, everybody and their brother is an Ohio State fan. Damn near as bad as these retarded UK fans we have down here...

Can't it just be red and gray?

[JET455]

Can't it just be red and gray?


Didn't you mean Red and GAY!!!???

[carwash]

Cut the dash out today for the switch panel... stressful, as there is about an asshair of room for error. The switches and crap on the backside go damn near all the way to the edge. So i had to cut a hole, yet somehow still leave some meat on the dash for the holes to hold the damn thing in. Measure 90 times, cut 90 times... a little at a time.

Anyways, its in, and looks mighty fine i might add, with the rest of my dash goodies..

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_876.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_877.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_879.jpg

Got the front towers cut for limit straps as well. Buttoning some more panels down with the final hardware, must say the stainless button head allens are sweet. Makes the hex heads i had on there look awful.

I have spent the last week sourcing fittings for my hydraulic steering hoses, it has been an absolute nightmare. Any of you fitting gurus out there... find me a 5/8 oring to -6 AN fitting... The only 5/8 i can find is that british standard ****, and its 14 TPI, that don't work. This is standard 5/8 fine thread... odd bird. Parker hose guy was baffled...

Anyways... coming along. Slow, but coming.

[Redriverranger]

Here is where I found my fittings.
https://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.asp?UID=2009052205314472&catname=hydraulic&keyword=HFJO

[carwash]

still, no 5/8 oring to -6AN JIC there.

[Bear Chow]

Looks great, you might just make it EJS 2010.

[94Dodge Truggy]

Need one custom machined? Tried aeroquip off of 747 and port union in west chester ohio?

[carwash]

i have finally sourced everything i need. I just adapted it up to a -8 from the -6. 5/8 oring doesnt seem to exist anywhere.

[carwash]

Looks great, you might just make it EJS 2010.
yeah, shame i wont be able to afford to go...

[Nuts]

Looks awsome! and I'm glad I'm not the only one taking forever to finish their buggy lol

[carwash]

mine has gone beyond taking forever... it's down right ridiculous.

[carwash]

ok... trying to button this thing down. for those of you that haven't seen my other thread, i'm having some propane delivery issues i believe, can't get it to run well, idle, etc.

So, first thing on the list was to get my cooling set up well, so that i can keep the motor and evaporator cool enough to mess with it long enough to try and tune it.

If you recall, i was very worried about my top radiator hose and it clearing my alt pulley. Last night i spent about an hour and a half at the local AZ, with some bent coat hangers, trying to source some hoses for my top and bottom. I was successful, and the **** looks like it was made for the rig... so that's good.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_886.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_882.jpg

Got the throttle linkage and accelerator pedal installed, rear lights wired and loomed to the front, all the rest of wiring parts are ordered from seabass, even filled the damn diffs!

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_892.jpg

Goal is to make it to the benefit on August 8th, doable i think. But it's me we are talking about here... so don't count on it.

Need to get propane squared away, bleed steering, bleed brakes, finish wiring, exhaust. Cross your fingers.

[Nuts]

Where is the other thread with the propane problem?or whats the problem?

[carwash]

ah that thread is on pirate...

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=804097

are you a propane guru? if so, please come over.

[Nuts]

Not a guru, but I got a 99 vortec run on a pieced together propane set up. I had trouble starting mine the first time because the throttle plate was closed too much and wouldn't let enough vacume through to suck in the propane. I opened it up just alittle and VROOOM VROOM! You might try that, and if its a used set up it could have a dried out diaphram...

[carwash]

the setup is freshly rebuilt (supposedly). Got it from Roy, out of canada, GotPropane.

I can't figure it out. Today i go out, fired it up, it runs great, damn near idles. I shut it down, and can't get it to restart, barely even chokes. I open the flies all the way up to clean it out, and it farts a little, then thats it.

It's like the longer it sits, the better it does. Almost like its getting too much pane or something. I need a propane genius to pay me a visit.

[Nuts]

Have you tried a diffrent tank? Sounds funny, but mine would start real hard with a certain tank, then when I switched it'd start easy again. And thats all I got, good luck!

[carwash]

ive tried 4 different tanks... as i had a fear that propane might be bad... it doesn't go bad i later found out.

[jamie L]

double check your solinoid is working and maybe pull the top of the carb off and clean the rubber piece ontop. Then check the nob under the bowl to see if on lean or rich. There is only 3 setting on mine. Other than that, it's pretty strait forward, timing maybe?

[tinbeater]

Is your regulator icing up???
Check for a rats nest from sitting to long.
http://www.impco-beru.nl/IMPCO%20Training%20Manual.pdf

[Nuts]

Just read through the pirate thread again. You said the longer it sits the easier it seems to try to start, and that only the front 4 cyl seem to be firing. That sounds like you aren't getting enough fuel. Have you checked for vacume leaks? From what I understand a propane system works on pressure from the tank, and vacume from the motor. If the tank is full it has pressure. If there is a leak it might not have enough vacume to open the lock off valve all the way, or even open the diaphram in the mixer.

[carwash]

The reg is not icing up, not letting it run that long. All parts have had a fresh rebuild on them... supposedly...

you coming down sunday to chase my gremlins away?

[carwash]

It hits on all 8 now. I don't know where i would have a vacuum leak from, everything is plugged or being used... i hate this ****.

[tinbeater]

The reg is not icing up, not letting it run that long. All parts have had a fresh rebuild on them... supposedly...

you coming down sunday to chase my gremlins away?

I will be down Sunday.
Hey Mike. Check out the link I posted on my last post. It help me out alot when I tuned my setup.

[carwash]

ok... my mixer is an ohg tho... no differences really?

[carwash]

wiring sucks... that is all for now.

[cheapthrills49]

so is it running fine yet, i just got all my propane lined out, THE ****S GREAT!!!

[jeepmanjeff]

Your rig is sickening Mike. Nice work as always!

[carwash]

kinda running, not out of the shop yet tho. still finishing up wiring, etc... and have this damn propane issue i'm trying to figure out...

details of it in this pirate thread...

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=804097

Thanks Jeff, can't wait to hit the trails with you again.

[carwash]

Rig is coming along, dealing with a propane gremlin. Figured one out and still chasing another. First one was simple, had to route my heater hoses differently. Had the hoses both pushing into the regulator. hard to get flow that way.

So, DO NOT do it like this:
http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_921.jpg

Do it like this:
http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_914.jpg

The whole propane issue can be followed here if yer interested at all or have any input. My next step is to tear into the mixer, look for any issue.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=804097

Got my wiring all buttoned down, and except for replacing one bulb in a gauge, it's 100% and i can put my side panels on. Props to seabass, the man rules and saved me an extra week of work im sure...

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_919.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_920.jpg

Coming right along, put some more nitrogen in the shocks, get exhaust done, finish my propane suckiness, and that should just about do it.

I actually drove it in the other night, 2 feet forward and 2 feet in reverse, just to make sure the trans and tcase actually worked... it was exhilarating to say the least!

[fabricator]

Hows the hydro steer?

[carwash]

You felt it, in fact you were the first to turn the wheels since the bleeding. I can steer it with half a finger, it's amazing.

[eighty3bronco]

I don't want to rain on your parade but make sure that you put some dielectric grease on all of your connections. I will suck to work on electrically but it may help connection issues later down the road.

But your rig looks great!!!!!!!!

[fabricator]

Yea, make sure you put some "boat" on the connections........

[tinbeater]

Yea, make sure you put some "boat" on the connections........


:D :D :D X2.

[carwash]

yes, lots of boat, indeed.

[carwash]

Well, I'm down to buttoning up all the loose ends. Still have my propane issue, but i'm closer to solving it...

For the most part the rig is done, need to get exhaust, which will happen on weds or thurs this week. I will have a crossover pipe to the driver side, then 3 inch all the way back. going to have a hard time fitting any kind of muffler in there, wish me luck.

All fluids are finalized, and i have driven it around the yard and house about a half hour, waiting for something to rattle off or blow up or break. Rather it happen there, for sure.

I think I'm going to regret not putting in a sway bar at build time, cuz i'm pretty sure im gonna be adding one. ***** has got some insane scary body roll... thank god for my silly amount of unsprung weight.

I believe the rig was named today... I'm not big on naming my rigs, but it does make it easier to refer to them i guess. I never named this one, as you hate to have it not live up to a name, etc... Besides, the damn thing took so long to build, i probably would have forgotten the name years ago...

Anyway, i posted a pic of bogger tracks on my concrete, as proof of it having left the shop under its own power. Of course everyone cried bull****, etc. And YJnate says that the rig is kinda like The Yeti. Everyone talks about it, but not many have ever seen it in person. Some have caught a glimpse of it, or seen proof of it, like a track or something, etc. The Yeti is also thought to be big, cumbersome, huge feet, i'm sure it smells, etc...

So, that describes this rig perfectly at this point... So from this point on, it will be The Yeti.

Anybody wanna go wheeling?

[sarge]

now the big question ....... is it going to be in Trenton on Sat. ????? we have no Yeti laws to my knowledge :beers:

[tjjeepjeep]

now the big question ....... is it going to be in Trenton on Sat. ?????

x2 will it???

[carwash]

Here is the most recent siting, or proof of existence...

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_941.jpg

Trenton in Saturday? What's going on in Trenton on Saturday? Big yard sale or something?

[fabricator]

I bet that was a ***** to push......

[drmeece]

Rob you have a pm

[tjjeepjeep]

I bet that was a ***** to push......

hilarious

[94Dodge Truggy]

Will it fit on the trailer? Do you remember how to wheel? Wondering since it has been 3 years or so since you have wheeled if you are able anymore. If the radical rockwelled big block buggy makes it to the benifit I will promise not to run over it! :p

[carwash]

Of course it fits on the trailer, and it has only been a year since i wheeled. Been longer since i wheeled a slow moving rig... so will take some getting used to again im sure.

And thanks so much for not running over it, yer retarded.

[carwash]

Holy Chit!!!! Out of the shop, and posing for it's beauty shots... rig is done, minus my propane issue and exhaust, which it was dropped off for tonight...

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_948.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_949.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_950.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_951.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_953.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_957.jpg

Loaded it on the trailer tonight, and was surprised to find that i actually had room on both sides of the trailer. I figured it was gonna be hanging off... Hell this makes it more narrow than my last rig on 1 tons. Sweet.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_958.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_959.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_961.jpg

When it gets back here, i have to fine tune my air shocks, as you can see in the shots above, it's sitting a little low in the rear. As it sits right now, i have about 3 inches of up travel in the front and 4 inches up in the rear.

I want to keep it as low as i can, but still want to have some up travel. what is the best number you think. they are 18" travel...

[drmeece]

Looks great good job

[94Dodge Truggy]

That looks kick ass!!! When we wheelin? :beers:

[tjjeepjeep]

Looks awesome!

PS nice concrete patio :D

[carwash]

Thanks y'all. Can't wait to hit the trails again...

Haspin anyone? hehehe.

[hardluck]

beautiful man, simply beautiful. :)

[94Dodge Truggy]

How about a bar on the sides to keep the trees and rocks off the doors?

[carwash]

the door is made of bars, no need to protect with more bars... and i don't care about the skins... those smashes will be beauty marks, or memories...

[fabricator]

cliffnote a propane update ...

[carwash]

none to speak of really, it runs better, but not perfect. I have the poppet valve disabled as a bandaid...

[carwash]

Exhaust done tonight... i do not envy my exhaust guy, but he does amazing work. Space was so limited, i had concerns that it wasn't even possible to run what i needed.

If you want great work done in this area, lemme know and i will hook you up with him..

2.5 inch all the way back to a flowmaster delta series muffler, tucked up nice and tight to the floor... with small tail exiting. Everything out of harms way, etc...

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_962.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_963.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_964.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_965.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_966.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_967.jpg

It's nice and quiet til i hit about 2500 rpm, then it gets a bit throaty. I didnt' want so loud that i couldn't hear engine issues, etc...

[Flxratd]

hard to tell in the pic but possibly some heat wrap by t case just to not overheat the fluid in it but other than that looks great

[sarge]

Well first off , All I can say is " BANG'N " ,

next is -- we are going wheel'n but the first run is at night !!!! ;) better get some lights on that thing . You gotta go with the Delta H4's .

[94Dodge Truggy]

I can't believe the tires aren't dry rotted!

[AFTERSHOCK151]

That is bad a$$ one of the nicest I've seen, and I haven't even seen it in person yet. I would be very proud to own the "YETI" I guess I will see it in person in Trenton tomorrow right? I guess we will have to head down to the creek after the show right Sarge?

Hey "SALLY" were going to see you tomorrow too right?

See everyone in the morning and bring your money I will be taking the highest bid on the winch right after the show ends since they will be drawing my ticket. Can't see putting that in my trailer just to pull the jeep in and out.

Again looks awesome see ya tomorrow.
Jim

[Stang849]

Looks great Mike!!

[RuffedUpXJ]

Well just bring it and leave her on the trailer. Great fab work Mike.

[carwash]

Truggy, yer a ****, but i love ya.

See you all tomorrow.

[mckeddie]

still the same propane issue of not firing after running? we had a jeep do that at slade one time, it would fire perfectly every time we would push start it, but wouldn't fire without a push, he ended up having to replace a couple of orings in the brand new system. worth a shot.

greg

[carwash]

Well, it's running great now with a borrowed mixer. So, I'm on the search for an older style 450 like i have, or a nicely tuned 425. I will steal Jeff's for as long as he will allow tho. Still using more pane than i would like, so i need to run the power valve in a few turns i think.

Got it all decaled up last night with the help of Byron and Ted. So, imma call it done at this point... still some piddly **** to do, but nothing worth posting up on any threads... Coolant reservoir, modify throttle pedal, blah blah blah... See you on the trail.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_975.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_974.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_973.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Shop_Projects/Off_Road_Projects/YJ_Tube_Buggy/06buggy_972.jpg

[fabricator]

what is the weight

[sarge]

Mike ,

Did you find an aluminum dush shield for the 400 yet ? I can see if I can come up with one if not .

Oh, looks good by the way ! see this week end

[carwash]

no, repaired my metal one sarge. didn't even take it off (cuz it's a royal ***** to get to without removing lower links, etc). I think it will be fine. Hopefully a fluke that it got hit.

I can see a spot where whatever dented it slid across the oil pan first, so at some point when i have the lowers off, might just make a removable skid plate that covers both the pan and the trans shield.

And no weight yet. Might hit the scales on teh way to gravelrama. Tried to borrow my buddy's longacres, but they are only rated at 1000 per corner, so i know that won't be enough. Stay tuned.

[mckeddie]

did it make it to harlan this weekend?

[carwash]

Nope... i don't own a trailer. I have to beg to use one... and it wasn't available. Didn't matter, I doubt i would have made it. Bummed cuz i was gonna hang with Kirby and the Tim Cameron crew.... missed out big i guess.

[mckeddie]

yeah, i wanted to go to, kirby has invite me the last couple of times he's gone, always something going on though. i'm looking forward to getting ot wheel with them down there.

[carwash]

my next trip will probably be fall crawl. schedule is pretty full right now with max's 1st birthday coming up and stuff...

[itbrokeagain]

Nope... i don't own a trailer. I have to beg to use one... and it wasn't available. Didn't matter, I doubt i would have made it. Bummed cuz i was gonna hang with Kirby and the Tim Cameron crew.... missed out big i guess.

If it will fit you can use mine. Brakes dont work. Havent had time to mess with them. Deck isnt in the best of shape either but all the lights do work...........

[carwash]

Thanks tony!

[90CHVYJ]

Like the rig! Thinking about putting pane on my heep. I know you haven't gotten to wheel it much but how much pane do you think it will use? Just wondering how many tanks I should be looking for! Thanks

[carwash]

should use roughly about the same amount of pane as gasoline, give about 10%. So, i have 16 gallons of pane on board, so about the same as having a 15 gallon gasoline tank... Should be able to do a full day of trail running on that... will fine out in a few weeks for sure.

[90CHVYJ]

Ok thanks that doesnt sound to bad then. I guess I need to find at least 4 tanks to be safe then. You have any leads on where to buy them at?

[carwash]

If you want the fancy clear one, call Denver Propane and ask for Duke.

I have seen aluminum ones come across craigslist from time to time.

[90CHVYJ]

Ok thanks I will have to look around and see if I can find a few.

[fabricator]

So.... how much fuel did this heavy turd use in a day of ridin?
did you get a ruff idea

[carwash]

In two full days, we used a pinch over 2 tanks.

I took my two clears, and 4 aluminum spares. After the first day of riding, the one tank was down to about a gallon or so left. That was about 6 or 7 hours of riding or so. So just for safe measure, we ran up to Harlan propane and had it refilled the next morning(lovely people by the way, 6 teeth between the 3 people and the one girl had 5 of those 6, but very nice).

So started Saturday with 2 fresh full tanks, and went thru about 1.25 of those in a full day of hard, heavy throttle wheeling. I'm happy with this. We covered some serious ground, and turned some serious rpm's. So I can count on roughly a tank for a trail day. I was figuring 2 tanks a day, so the current usage is fine with me.

[kyrel69]

so are you happy with it now so you do not want to sale it any more

[carwash]

everything's for sale...

[cheapthrills49]

u need 2 bring that big pig out 2 adams co. this weekend!

[carwash]

I gots flat tires.

[cheapthrills49]

so does that make it time for 54's lol

[carwash]

nope, two new 44' on the way, should have been here Friday...

[fabricator]

how much for the old ones

[carwash]

Goodbye friend... the Yeti left today, sold to a nice gentleman from Missouri. Beat it's ass Jason, it likes it and asks for more.

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Toy_Box/Carwash/Misc/To_Sell/IMG_2035.jpg

http://www.sigmamotorsports.com/ImageFolio4_files/gallery/Toy_Box/Carwash/Misc/To_Sell/IMG_2034.jpg

i will miss her. she was a badass.

[tjjeepjeep]

Another page turns...

[carwash]

Yes... a new chapter... stay tuned.

[cheapthrills49]

now ur not gona get all California gay and build a KOH car are you:p .........i think you just sold the perfect KY buggy!
(where u live and wheel)

[carwash]

That rig wheeled 10x as much in california than it ever did or ever would have here...

California is quite gay, but KOH cars and go-fast **** focking rules... trust me.

[cheapthrills49]

bad ass i agree but not "suited" for mid-western and southern wheeling
i think the Yettie was the ticket so now u better go over the top!...........im subscribed!!!:beers:

[carwash]

Until you've wheeled a go-fast rig, you can't say I guess.

In what way could i go "over the top" on a yeti type vehicle. What did it not have that anyone looking for a "southern wheeling rig" might want?

[cheapthrills49]

nitrous, mass polished ****, gun drilled bolts, chrome-moly tiged cage, heated PRP seats, $1,500 custom headers, 1.25 cromo heim's blah blah blah o yeah and a BUMPIN ASS SYSTEM DAWG:cool: lol


im not sayin the yettie wasn't top of the line but i think it was a bad ass wheeler not a "flashy" RIDDLER type of off road expo/t.v. rig.
yours was just plain sick!!!!!!

[carwash]

riddler? that's an insult.

[RuffedUpXJ]

You shooting for KOH this year since you have the TTC spot?

[carwash]

Already a done deal, kirby and i are taking the benz buggy. doing some east coast races here, then heading to KOH in February.

[yellowjacket]

I'm setting mine up with 5" of up,and cheap poly bump stops,then like you said limit straps,a winch up front and maybe a small one in the back and I'll wait on the sway bar to see if it really needs one.
We have a 6 month old baby girl and momma works nights,so I only get 1 night during the week and then sometimes all weekend to be in the garage.So as soon as I can get back out there and get going on it I'll take some pictures and maybe start a build thread here. Thanks for the help!

yeah, i hear that! just had my second and it really is gonna cut down on shop time

[itbrokeagain]

yeah, i hear that! just had my second and it really is gonna cut down on shop time
Just wait until four comes along. Time and money are both gone

[carwash]

If i had 4 kids, I'd leave the country.

[itbrokeagain]

If i had 4 kids, I'd leave the country.
That has crossed my mind a time or two..........

[Nuts]

My god time goes fast, my daughter is 3 now, and I still don't have much time in the garage....:mad:

[cincygman]

my oldest just turned 21............ I can only wish she was 3 again:(