went wheeling today.....

[mikeyours]

Well most of you should know what the weather was like today well after I got off work a buddy of mine and I went wheeling. After that was all said and done I went and washed the mud off my TJ well now when I drive there is a very loud sound comming from the driver side wheel, dont know what it is sounds like just screaching almost like a school board...Think some thing is freezing or frozen? or did something break. Didnt wheel to hard today just some mud holes and hills.

[94Dodge Truggy]

rocks in the caliper/brake pad? Jack it up and move your wheels back and forth. Should help out.

[mikeyours]

Ill go check that out now

[mckeddie]

i'd guess something in the wheel or brake too.

[tjjeepjeep]

Mud seems kind of obvious huh..

[mikeyours]

Well yeah mud probably frozen mud

[tjjeepjeep]

I personally find my TJ runs better dirty. Mine wouldn't know what to do if it was wheeled and washed in the same day. If nothing else, turn the radio up. I recommend 94.9 The Sound.

[94Dodge Truggy]

channel 20 on sirius up loud! :D

[hardluck]

I personally find my TJ runs better dirty. Mine wouldn't know what to do if it was wheeled and washed in the same day. If nothing else, turn the radio up. I recommend 94.9 The Sound.

that has got to be the best tech advice i have ever heard:D

[hardluck]

i need to renew my sirius subscription, what is it up to now?

[carwash]

I personally find my TJ runs better dirty. Mine wouldn't know what to do if it was wheeled and washed in the same day. If nothing else, turn the radio up. I recommend 94.9 The Sound.
94.9 is the suck now... "it's different here"... whatever.

yeah, they play different stuff than everyone else, but they still only have a playlist of about 60 songs that they recycle...

The new 96 Rock is cool lately, but on Sirius, i'm all about Left Of Center, Backspin, Buzzsaw, Octane, etc... i'd die without my sirius.

[mikeyours]

Sirus all the way!!! anywho...well that was the problem but i noticed something when I had the wheel off. This is my first jeep and im still learning, the studs were moving back and forth when I applyed pressure about a 1/16 of an inch. the axle shaft nut was moving to. is this normal or are my shafts pulling out? The 4wheel drive was working fine today. Is there something I can get to help me with understanding my axels and how to work on them?

[hardluck]

might be the unit bearing the axle runs through, i dont think it should have any play in it like that but im not sure

[mikeyours]

anyone else know whats going on???

[94Dodge Truggy]

How new is this jeep and what has it been through as far as wheeling?

[tinbeater]

Would like to help out but!
It must be a jeep thing, I dont understand.:D

[mikeyours]

Just light wheeling slight hills and mud holes. its an 06, I dont know if i made it sound confusing or not but its just the studs for my wheel they move back and forth like a 1/16

[94Dodge Truggy]

tighten the lug nuts? If the wheel bearings are smoked and it is an 06 you must be harder than what the 30 front can stand.

[mikeyours]

its not the actual lug nuts its the studs when the wheel is off. that are moving. This pic is not mine got it off google but just showing an example. The red is on the wheel stud when i grab the stud i can move it like 1/16 back and forth in the hole that it comes through in the rotor. Not sure if that clears things up or not. If not i give up

[94Dodge Truggy]

Tighten the hell out of the lug nuts with an impact but not too tight and cross your fingers!

[mikeyours]

So thats all the problem was? I dont understand

[mikeyours]

Is this covered under the warranty or did I void it?

[mikeyours]

The actual stud is not moving its all moving together like the rotor is not seated all the way on the studs

[94Dodge Truggy]

Bearings! Usually they last 100k.

[jfiscus]

The studs should be "pressed" into the unit bearing on the axle.
If you are able to move them at all "seperately" from each other then they should be replaced. You might also be looking at getting a new rim because they may have damaged it when they were loose.

If the studs "all move together" when you wiggle one then you are probably looking at a new hub/unit bearing.

Another test you can do is to jack the tire off the ground (with it bolted on) and try to move the tire with your hand. If it moves when you apply pressure at 12 o'clock & 6 o'clock then your bearing is toast. At 3 & 6 only then it may be tie rod end.

[mikeyours]

Another test you can do is to jack the tire off the ground (with it bolted on) and try to move the tire with your hand. If it moves when you apply pressure at 12 o'clock & 6 o'clock then your bearing is toast. At 3 & 6 only then it may be tie rod end.


Tryed this and nothing happend so im thinking i just freaked when i saw this.

Here is what someone else said on another thread...The rotor can move if it's not fused (like with rust) to the hub/bearing.

When they're new, and the brake calipers are removed, they slip on and off. With the calipers attached, you can wiggle them if the rust hasn't bonded them to the hub.

[jfiscus]

Another test you can do is to jack the tire off the ground (with it bolted on) and try to move the tire with your hand. If it moves when you apply pressure at 12 o'clock & 6 o'clock then your bearing is toast. At 3 & 6 only then it may be tie rod end.


Tryed this and nothing happend so im thinking i just freaked when i saw this.

Here is what someone else said on another thread...The rotor can move if it's not fused (like with rust) to the hub/bearing.

When they're new, and the brake calipers are removed, they slip on and off. With the calipers attached, you can wiggle them if the rust hasn't bonded them to the hub.

So are you saying you are just wiggling the rotor - not the hub bolts???
All rotors wiggle, the lugnuts hold them in place...

[94Dodge Truggy]

WOW.:confused:

[mikeyours]

Whats that for lol....wouldnt something make noise if a bearing was bad?

[mikeyours]

hahah lets try this again. the Red arrows "wheel studs" and the part that they are pressed in move or spin when the tire rotates correct? The rotor with the Blue arrows goes over the studs. The Studs are just moving at little back and forth in the rotor holes.

[jfiscus]

All statements above are correct.
However, studs should not move. Ever.
If you can grab and "move" a stud, there is a problem.
The hub that the studs are pressed into should only "spin", not wiggle.

I am in Middletown off Oxford State Road, but if you want to drive up here some evening (6-10pm) this week I would be more than glad to take a look & tell you what is wrong (if anything). My number is 513.967.7091, leave a message with your number if I don't answer. - Jason

[mikeyours]

Thanks Jason, Sorry for all this trouble guys I am new to jeeps and really have no one to help me out on them except for what I read on here and other sites

[jfiscus]

Thanks Jason, Sorry for all this trouble guys I am new to jeeps and really have no one to help me out on them except for what I read on here and other sites

No problem, we're all here to help. We were all in your position at one time or another.