Natrual Bridge trip

[sarge]

OK I plan on going on the March trip to the bridge , Who is planning on going ? I know it's early but it's also winter time and I know how much work we all get done on our rigs in the cold :D

[mike shelton]

trees are real bad right now sarge. i think a few of us plan a trip to clear some trails in a few days. gabby

[sarge]

I didn't think about that , hopefully there clear by the end of March.

[94Dodge Truggy]

I am definitely going and will have the saws in the jeep as usual ready. Some trees to climb over may be a good thing. I am camping at the creek area. Hopefully the weather holds out for this. The area before carb hill called rattlesnake I think is down right naaaaasty :eek: ! Tombstone right past hatbox is dug out and even easier to make your back side pass your front side. Can't wait!!! :beers:

[Redriverranger]

They should be mostly clear by then. We are going on a clean-fest here in a couple weeks.

[mike shelton]

scott, what are you wheelin now? gabby

[94Dodge Truggy]

scott, what are you wheelin now? gabby

I have a street legal wrangler with 42'' irocs and fox coilovers on a dual triangulated 4 link setup. You replace your buggy with something yet Gabby?

[sarge]

my plan is to take the RV , hope I can get it to the creek with out to much damage, it's been awhile since If been there. Last time was with the yellow XJ I think on the poker run when we all woke up in the snow !!!!

[humpy]

They should be mostly clear by then. We are going on a clean-fest here in a couple weeks.

casey shoot me a pm on when u all are plannin on cleanin trees...may be able to get a couple people and come down to lend a hand...ill talk to dewey and see what he thinks....

[94Dodge Truggy]

my plan is to take the RV , hope I can get it to the creek with out to much damage, it's been awhile since If been there. Last time was with the yellow XJ I think on the poker run when we all woke up in the snow !!!!

I was there the day after thanksgiving with the barn and had no problems. You will be fine I would say.

[cincygman]

My mom has some land down in that area. She hasn't been down there for a couple of years now and I was thinking about going down there sometime in march to check it out. Don't know if I'll be up for any serious wheeling but it might be fun to catch up with everyone and do some bench wheeling:beers:

[mike shelton]

I have a street legal wrangler with 42'' irocs and fox coilovers on a dual triangulated 4 link setup. You replace your buggy with something yet Gabby?

i got a yota on 33,s. have some issues before trail ready. gabby

[94Dodge Truggy]

i got a yota on 33,s. have some issues before trail ready. gabby

Going to be able to bring it out? Need help?

[mike shelton]

Going to be able to bring it out? Need help?

i sure would like to have there, we will see. no help needed, fuel sending unit, high steer, front locker, and burfields.. but thx very much. gabby

[mckeddie]

what week are you all going down? i was going to go to harlan 3rd weekend, but my brother in law is now going ot be home on leave from overseas that weekend from year tour of duty, so we are going to see him instead, i may be up for a trip to slade instead.

greg

[Flxratd]

what week are you all going down? i was going to go to harlan 3rd weekend, but my brother in law is now going ot be home on leave from overseas that weekend from year tour of duty, so we are going to see him instead, i may be up for a trip to slade instead.

greg

core is going down the weekend of the 3/28 come on down the water will be nice

[fabricator]

i got a yota on 33,s. have some issues before trail ready. gabby

Mike,
You mite want to think about investing another hour
and upgrading your knuckles.
If you don't, I want to be the one that says " I told ya so"
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239782&highlight=knuckle

[mike shelton]

neet, and free upgrade. i will look into this.. i think they have planed our tree cleanup on the 28th too. mike

[mike shelton]

all i can say is !!!!!!!! take a chain saw... gabby

[Redriverranger]

Most will be clear, but it appears they are still falling from being weakened. Bring your saws, just in case. We spent all day today clearing, but didn't get very far.

[southern boy]

Where is the bridge at? Is it a members only trip?

[sarge]

The Bridge is Natural Bridge / Red River area located near Stanton Ky. It is about 2.5 hours from Cincy. All are welcome at any time on all CORE rides.

[sarge]

OK I got a question for Redriverranger or anyone that knows for that matter.

Do I have to notify anyone or get a camping permit to camp at the Sand lick Rd. area?

We never did before but I think I recall reading it on here or Pirate or JP a while back.

[KargoMaster]

I was down there several weeks ago, and talked with Boomhauer last night, but haven't heard that one yet...

Then again, Boomhauer's last trip out was when I was down there... but he's usually good about knowing what's going on...

[94Dodge Truggy]

OK I got a question for Redriverranger or anyone that knows for that matter.

Do I have to notify anyone or get a camping permit to camp at the Sand lick Rd. area?

We never did before but I think I recall reading it on here or Pirate or JP a while back.

Camping on either the left or right side of creek requires a $5.00 pass I heard. I was there ion november and everyone camping had no pass though and looked at me with the deer in the headlights kinda look.

[twiztedzuki]

I have never heard about a pass either, always just camped by the creek. I was always told just be tagged and insured.

[Redriverranger]

If that is the case, it is news to me. Fee areas have been posted normally. It is a fee area over closer to the Gorge, where I live. There is a forest service sign/information thing on the way into the creek. There have been no sign's posted on it stating it is a fee area unless they were put there since weekend before last when we were there cleaning trails. If I remember I will swing over by there on my way home tomorrow and see if anything looks different. If it is now a fee area, the permits are available at one of the stores where you get off the parkway at Slade. It is a simple tag that hangs from the mirror and is only necessary for overnight camping. The whole Daniel Boone area is not a fee area, just designated sections. Also, there have been a few tickets written recently in the area there for no tags/insurance. Consider that a heads up.

[94Dodge Truggy]

People who may be attending the CORE trail run.

Sarge
Sarges neighbor
Truggy
Mudstud
?

Not Attending;

George? (FORD 6.0)
Brody Jacobs?
Carwash
Kargomaster
Jim S.
Nuts
scott a.
jamie l.
tjjeepjeep

[jamie L]

Are we all heading down Friday evening or early Saturday morning?

[mckeddie]

as much as i want to go, daughter has gymnastics that weekend, and the wife said i'm going, acutally, every weekend from febuary through mid april i'm traveling somewhere every weekend for a meet. hopefully i can make the next time with ya'll.

[sarge]

I plan on going down Friday afternoon , I would like to leave Trenton around 1:00 pm . I have to get up Sunday and come straight home , I have to work at 7:00pm :(

This is all if I get off my butt and get the RV ready for the trip !!!

Also , my buddy Jon ( Grey YJ on 36's ) is going !

[Redriverranger]

I am in the middle of a full hydraulic steering swap, so I am out.

[Mudstud]

Im going.Taking the XJ this trip.The last time we were there,you had to have a $5.00 pass to camp on one side of the creek but not the other. Im not sure which side it was, i was out wheeling when the cops came. I think George knows, i will call him tomorrow and post later.:D

[Hope Springs Hauler]

Just found out that I will be in New Orleans, Again(4x):(

No club wheeling for me, yet:mad:

[sarge]

Great news Bob , when are you planning on leaving trenton?

[Redriverranger]

Drove over there last night, and there are no new signs over there, but that does not mean they are not enforcing the pass now. A $5 overnight pass per vehicle would be cheaper than the ticket.

[sarge]

where do we get them ?

[Redriverranger]

They have them at the Chevron where you get off the Parkway at Slade.

[KargoMaster]

I would assume that the Stanton exit Chevron (I think it is) is the same...??

Casey, many thanks for being our eyes and ears on the ground down there, you have no idea how nice it is for us to have someone in-person to hear from. It is always a pleasure to hear from you. Thank you.

[SWOhioJeepDude]

Stanton is the exit before Slade.

[KargoMaster]

Yes, thank you for that geographical insight... :D

That's where I get off of MP to eliminate backtracking parallel to it... My question was... Do you think the Chevron at the Stanton exit has the same passes?

My apologies for the fuzzy communication last post... :D

[boomhauer]

i do not think they do but i may be wrong

[Redriverranger]

I would assume that the Stanton exit Chevron (I think it is) is the same...??


Not sure about the availability in Stanton, although there should be some place there that handles them. Definitely Slade.

[sarge]

OK I thank all for the help, but I really do not want to try to jockey a 30 ft. RV with a 18 ft. trailer around the back roads of KY trying to find a Mom and Pop store that is selling a pass so I can camp for a couple of nights with out the fear of getting a huge ticket . Is there a number I call call to find out the Shizzle ????

[fabricator]

call abner's
bet they have them in Stanton
If you can't jocky any type of rig in and out
of their driveway
I am going to question your driving skills
_________________________________
Li'L Abner Motel & Restaurant, 1000 Natural Bridge Rd, Slade, KY 40376, (606-663-5384) stanton - 663-4379

[Mudstud]

Not going to be able to leave Trenton until after work friday. Should be at camp around 9:00 pm. Sarge, if you leave later, give me a call, if not, see ya there.:beers:

[94Dodge Truggy]

I will be heading out around 3:30 pm friday. Going to get a good night ride in before saturdays run. It has been too long since I have been wheeling all night and I am reeeeeaaaady!

[sarge]

We'll be out gathering fire wood by the time you get there ( Truggy ) we'll save ya a spot . LOL

[94Dodge Truggy]

We'll be out gathering fire wood by the time you get there ( Truggy ) we'll save ya a spot . LOL

Sounds awesome! I will have some burnables also. :D (boom booms) :beers:

[jamie L]

Scott p. would you be up for meeting me or Scott and Me at the rest stop in Florence on friday and follow you down.

[sarge]

Sounds awesome! I will have some burnables also. :D (boom booms) :beers:


I will bring some other boom booms , you will be impressed ! :D :D

[94Dodge Truggy]

Jamie,

Sounds great! Meet at mt. zion rest area possibly?

[94Dodge Truggy]

I will bring some other boom booms , you will be impressed ! :D :D

Excellent!!! :eek: Can those be purchased also?

[sarge]

nope ! :cool:

[94Dodge Truggy]

Everyone ready for the trip? Took some time this weekend and got set up. Charged up the r/c crawler as it is most important for the trip. Then I fixed the trailer brakes, got a brand new 10 ply matching spare tire, swept out the trailer, fixed the front drive shaft on the jeep and hosed it off. Not sure why I clean it anymore as it is really looking rough from all the trail runs. Still need to fix the drivers side rear coilover oil leak but it may have fixed itself as it is no longer leaking! :rolleyes:

Hope the week goes by fast and the weekend is long! :beers:

[sarge]

I started the RV , fired up the fridge and put the house battery back in it . Put on my new to me soft half doors ( thanks NUTS ) and fabbed up some striker plates so they stay closed. I think I'm going to just run my XJ springs the way they are for this trip , wanting to go 4 link anyway. Jeep is ready all I have to do is wash the RV and load it up .

I need directions again it;'s been a while . I know it's 75 S. to 64 e and then the Mountain PKWY to ??? is Slade exit and turn right at the second light and then the blah , blah .. turnright at the white house on to Sand Lick ???? it's coming back alittle and I prob. could get their but I would rather have some assistance.

[94Dodge Truggy]

Exit before slade. Stanton. pass the quarry and turn right at a barn on left. When are you leaving Sarge?

[sarge]

around noon'ish friday :beers:

[94Dodge Truggy]

around noon'ish friday :beers:

Must be nice! Boss said I can't leave till 3:30pm. :mad:

If your travel adventure winds up going like most I will probably beat you there!

[itbrokeagain]

I will bring some other boom booms , you will be impressed ! :D :D

If its anything like you brought to Livingston, yes they will

[KargoMaster]

If its anything like you brought to Livingston, yes they will

I was thinking the SAME thing Tony... :evilgrin:


Must be nice! Boss said I can't leave till 3:30pm. :mad:

Oh well, that's what happens when you get MARRIED.

[sarge]

If its anything like you brought to Livingston, yes they will


oh yes they are...... hehehe

[mike shelton]

i,m out ... still not ready. gabby

[94Dodge Truggy]

Weather is looking awesome for the weekend trip!

[sarge]

I think it is going to be slightly slippery :D

[KargoMaster]

As long as you're not worried about the creek jumping out of the bank (cough: MemDay 2004) you'll be fine...

70% with THUNDERstorms... my kind of weather. Stay in the valleys folks.

[94Dodge Truggy]

I have some of the most fun and fondest memories while in some adverse conditions. This one should be right on par. The terrain will be a blast and rattle snake will require high range and hammer down! 2nd chance or whatever the hell it is called may roll Jamie again :rolleyes: Fair weather fans will be sceeered and the diehards will be tearing the trails up!!! Yee haw! when we leavin? :confused:

[sarge]

As long as you're not worried about the creek jumping out of the bank (cough: MemDay 2004) you'll be fine...

70% with THUNDERstorms... my kind of weather. Stay in the valleys folks.

that was one hell of a trip .......
I drove home in my boxer shorts b/c thats was the only thing I had left that was dry...... I still can see the look on the chicks face when I walked into pay for my fuel in the monsoon some where on the PKWY. wow .. good times . I was the last vehicle out that day before the Army Res. shut the county down.

[SWOhioJeepDude]

well I guess that throws out the term 'tread lightly' and insert 'f#$% the land and piss on the poor bastard that's gotta come after me'

:D

[94Dodge Truggy]

well I guess that throws out the term 'tread lightly' and insert 'f#$% the land and piss on the poor bastard that's gotta come after me'

:D

I will let you in on a little secret. The CORE club is one of the best clubs that I have ever seen or been associated with. We clean up others litter while out on the trails quite often, have successful fund raisers, give aid to others while out on the trails and have well built rigs that lend themselves to being easier on the terrain. As for the "poor bastards" that you stated I would say that you should come out and wheel with us to get a feel for how we wheel as a club. I assure you that I will be responsible as always and help out my fellow wheeler when at all possible. Are you heading out with us SWOhio?

[SWOhioJeepDude]

I believe that everyone is good, but there are to many times where I see people forget. The last time I was up rattlesnake it was so washed out and some folks that like to get in and hammer it tear it up worse.

I've meet several of you guys and have no problems with anyone, I just think we need to remember all talk about shutting down Slade very recently due to washing out and rutting done by off-roaders.

I'm not looking to make anyone mad as I expect to know and meet more of you guys, but like I said earlier, people forget how to treat the trails.

[tjjeepjeep]

I'm out for this weekend. pick a reason

[94Dodge Truggy]

I'm out for this weekend. pick a reason

:eek: WHAT? :confused:

[tjjeepjeep]

:eek: WHAT? :confused:

yea sorry. really wanted to go (haven't been anywhere since new years). putting in 70 hr weeks here at work, i'm not really into rain anyway (poster child for fair weather wheeler), health is iffy, and finances are tight. they all add up to a stay at home weekend behind the computer. so take some pictures and post them up for me pleeeease.

[jamie L]

I'll make my decision at about noon tomorrow. If it's a yes then I'll meet ya Pater at the rest area in Kentucky. May be a good weekend to stay home and get some stuff done around the house so i can sell it soon.

[Flxratd]

well im out also. the weather is one of the most factors but i have alot to do at the shop that can get me ahead for next week. have fun i know you will

[Redriverranger]

Well, I finished my truck, so we will probably be out Sat testing. Probably see you all.

[94Dodge Truggy]

Well, I finished my truck, so we will probably be out Sat testing. Probably see you all.

Any pics? 4 linked the rear right?

[Redriverranger]

The rear 4 link was a while back. Here are the pics

http://www.rrorc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38364

Just finished the full hydro.

http://www.rrorc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39284

[94Dodge Truggy]

PM thunderstorms and 67 degrees is alright by me for saturday and friday nights low is 51! Woo Hoo :beers:

[jamie L]

Im out for this weekend. Weather is looking good for next weekend, Sat/Sun, trip to the badlands. Everyone have fun and watch for the rising water, keep one toe outside the tent.

[94Dodge Truggy]

Im out for this weekend. Weather is looking good for next weekend, Sat/Sun, trip to the badlands. Everyone have fun and watch for the rising water, keep one toe outside the tent.

My toes are staying inside the barn which will float probably for a little while. Can't go next week. Have an auto cross race to attend you sissy!

[jamie L]

Im taller than you, lightning will strike me first. And your barn has to many holes in it, it will sink. Bring warm clothes for Sunday, chance of snow.

[KargoMaster]

The rear 4 link was a while back. Here are the pics

Just finished the full hydro.

Nice work Casey. Glad to hear you're back up and running faster than you thought...

Some of us are taking our sweet-ass time getting back up and running. :o

Have fun everyone.

[94Dodge Truggy]

You want shotgun Kargomaster?

[KargoMaster]

I do appreciate the offer... and if I didn't have some plans for the weekend already, I would certainly enjoy the ride, but alas... I will have to pass.

Thanks Scott, I do appreciate it.

[Redriverranger]

Get it together Brad. You need to ride. Thanks BTW.

[sarge]

I would like to give a HUGE hats off to Casey (Red River Ranger) :beers: , that was one hell of a ride on Saturday. Great weather and some awesome trails.

full report coming !! I'm still :D over Devils Brew !

[buckeyezuk]

Casey is always a good trail guide! devils brew is a neat climb. would love to made that trip. maybe next time.

[94Dodge Truggy]

Surprisingly nice weather and a great group of fellas to wheel with! Covered alot of ground and found some new trails and a new hiking cavern! Big thanks once again to Redriveranger for trail guide duties and for clearing the trails! We hit widowmaker, widowmaker 2 twice, tombstone, devils brew, carbeourator, rattlesnake, townsend cave, stump cave and many other spots. A full detail of the carnage and trails covered will be recaped at the meeting and pics will be posted shortly. Got some nice video also :beers:

[Redriverranger]

Hey, I had a great time as well. Glad you guy's had fun.

Casey.

[94Dodge Truggy]

This is the wife - he owes me.........again! Enjoy the pics!

[sarge]

OK ! I'm gonna try to give a readers digest version of the week-end , but I'm at work so I might have to take a few breaks.

We checked the weather about 100 times and I decided that since it was Thursday evening and I was loaded that we would go ahead and head down and make the most of Friday ( since the weather man said Friday good , Saturday wet ) . We rolled in to a very wet and muddy camp at around midnight , started a fire and kicked back a few cold ones to relax at little from the very foggy drive in. got up Friday morning and headed out . 2 rig group , Me and Jon ( grey YJ like mine ). We headed for Rattle snake and carb. hill , Rattle snake was nasty to say the least , so we drove up the bypass right next to the notch and headed up to Carb.
I tried about 10 times to make it up on the left and in the middle and gave up . Jon did the same and made it to the same stops as me . We decided to move on and just cruise a little before the rest of the group arrived . We headed back down and went through the woods bypass for Rattle Snake . The big hole on the woods bypass is bad and required alot of skinny pedal . Jon's jeep with passenger driving was denied and when he tried to go around it dropped a tire in to it, very close to rolling . This required alittle winching to get him out safely. Trip back to camp was uneventful , we played at most of the spots along the creek and gathered a bunch of firewood.
Shortly after we returned to camp Truggy and George rolled in only to advise us that everyone else pooched out :( .
So now there were four , we headed out and played in the creek on our way to Widow Maker 2 ( Little damnation) and then on to Last Chance where Truggy was denied followed by me . It was nasty !!!
We continued on , and ended up in the Widow Maker , just before the hat box Georges rear end started making some really bad noises and just as I said something about it on the CB I blew a front inner shaft. I pulled out of the creek on to the sand bank and pulled the inner axle and then turned around and made it out in three wheel drive unassisted . I waited on everyone else to exit , however, it was obvious something was wrong back at the Hat Box.
I walk back up the creek and find out the Jon had broke his front shaft aswell trying to turn around and was now stuck , Scotts winch decided to quit and with goerges rear end problems he was not sure about going back to help. It took some high lift help and a strap to finally get Jon out of the pinch and then Truggy helped him out of the Alley in true Truggy fashion :eek: it was very entertaining to say the least.
Everyone made it back to camp for a fire and cold ones to end the night , repairs were waiting for the morning .

Gotta go , be back in a little bit

[sarge]

Ok I'm back ,

Sat. started off by me slapping in my spare shaft and Jon loading up and heading home ( I forgot to bring another shaft :mad: ) .

And Then there were three.

Truggy , me and George headed out to Rattle Snake where Scott decided to give it a shot ( he fixed the winch at camp ) and as you can see ...... he didn't need it .

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George and I took the bypass , 36 in tire after 42's = stuck.

We headed to Carb. next

to be continued !

[sarge]

On to Carb. , Scott was the first to try it . It was slime covered and slick , He tried the left and almost slid off the face of the mountain :eek: we ended up pulling cable just for safety. back down to the bottom he went. Next he tried the straight up the middle .... denied again ( this is where Jon and I tried Friday ) he made to the same spot ! Back to the bottom again. I walked up and it appeared the right side was going to be the sweet spot and it was , Scott walked right up .
Now it was my turn , as I approached my cable in my posi lock pulled out and I lost 4x4 , so I backed down, fixed it and then tried again, this time on the right , I went right up.
George wasn't going to try it due to having some break issues ( as in No Brakes ) but after some ribbing from Scott and I he made an attempt. As he made it to the first big ledge his rear end made some very bad bangs and he was having trouble bumping it up the ledge so he gave up.
Scott and I slid back down the hill and we then slid down Rattle Snake. We ended up back on the main trail and decided to head for camp for lunch and fuel .
We loaded up and headed back out but George wasn't behind us :eek: , we backed up and found him at the creek in camp. Back to the trailer! He ended up breaking the king pin ........ finishing his week-end of wheeling .

And then there were two !

Scott and I headed back out and decided to go up towards Stump cave area and see what we could get our selves into and on the way ran in to Casey in his Ranger and another CJ on tons ( sorry guys I'm bad with names)
we decided to hit Devils Brew and then Stump Cave.

And now there are four !

We arrive at Devils Brew !! WOW it was very exciting watching two rigs on 39.5's and then one on 42's flog their way to the top, knowing that I'm on 36's and gotta go forward ! The little YJ walked it ! Now I'm not trying to blow my own horn here, but it really did walk right up both sections on the first time , knees shaking and all.
We lost the CJ , they had to get home .

Back down to three !

We then headed for Stump Cave and then to Townsend Cave via some less traveled trails ( thanks again Casey ) . Scott wanted a piece of Widow maker so we headed there , only to find a traffic jam !! So we hit little Widow maker again and then headed back over to Last chance. Casey hit it but was also denied, I think is was even worse then the night before . We ended up back at camp at about dinner time . Chili and grilled cheese was fixed in my corner and George made some Sausages on the grill ( after his afternoon nap ! ) in his corner .... all were full !
I got a few phone calls, after dinner, from friends warning me of a pending severe thunder storm with tornados just west of Lexington heading our way, so way decided it might be smart to just roll out and call it a week end. I did not feel like repeating 2004 !
We made it home about mid-night with no problems, was a great trip and I wish a few more had shown up.
Sorry for the long post's but I will not be at the meeting again next month ....but i only have four more weeks of seconds :D

Sarge

[sarge]

oh ! here are a few more pics. I'm sorry but I never do get very many , I'm to busy :D more pics to come , we lost one camera to the rain but have another one that was with Jon.

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[Jopa420]

Looks like a good time. We went down fri night. Hiked the gorge sat and camped at koomers ridge.

We ran little damnation alley and played in the creek for a bit sun. Lots of folks wheeling it seemed like.

[sarge]

more pic's :
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[carwash]

nice report! man makes me miss wheeling.

[sarge]

well get out there and finish that thing !

Just to give everyone a clue of how slimy Carb. was , this is the start:

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