What to look for in a diesel?

[BIGRAM]

GOing to look at a '92 Dodge diesel auto 2wd this weekend and don't know a flipping thing about a diesel. What is there to look for?

[RuffedUpXJ]

GOing to look at a '92 Dodge diesel auto 2wd this weekend and don't know a flipping thing about a diesel. What is there to look for?

White smoke, oil leaks, rougher than normal idle, should be able to put ya in your seat, hopefully not much rust, ride good enough for a truck.

Is it a 2500/3500 and dually or single wheel?

[BIGRAM]

White smoke, oil leaks, rougher than normal idle, should be able to put ya in your seat, hopefully not much rust, ride good enough for a truck.

Is it a 2500/3500 and dually or single wheel?

Form the pics it looks nice and clean for the year, didn't notice any rust. Single wheel rear. How 'bout the automatic? Any issues from this year?

[Nuts]

cummins+auto=BOOM!!!!

[BIGRAM]

[QUOTE=Nuts;34115]cummins+auto=BOOM!!!![

Why is that?

[Jordandg]

cummins+auto=BOOM!!!!


that's not completely true, yes, if you add some power to them over stock they tend to go a lot quicker and will take a dump on you. Same goes for any chevy or ford auto as well. However at stock or close to stock power they do just fine. IMO

[itbrokeagain]

Chrysler auto trannies keep the rebuilders in business. I was told this from Aamco last time I did a service call there

[KennyTJ]

6 standing inline do more work than 8 laying down!

:D

[hotrod]

if your planning on building some torque get a p-pump 12v (94-early 98) with the nv4500 (5spd) easier and cheaper mods for the p pump engines. nv4500 is cake to work on.
Cummins is the small block chevy of the diesel world, cheap power and everyone and their mom sells aftermarket parts for it. BUT the guys who i went to school with were forever tinkering on their cummins's. Us stroker guys just turn the key and drive. Cummins is for the guy who likes to tinker on his truck once a week. just my honest opinion. :beers:

[BIGRAM]

Not looking to build a performance truck, just a nice stock driver and tow rig.

[yjflop]

5.9 common rail and a 6 speed is perfect

[hotrod]

5.9 common rail and a 6 speed is perfect

with a smarty :D

[hotrod]

Not looking to build a performance truck, just a nice stock driver and tow rig.

youll be good :cool:

[fordman00]

heres a nice look diesel around me
http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/1585332201.html

[BIGRAM]

heres a nice look diesel around me
http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/1585332201.html


Pretty much the same truck, except this one is black and cheaper.

[KennyTJ]

Most every piece of heavy equipment, dozers, etc. including most tractor trailers use inline 6 cummins engines! :eek:

Newer turbo Diesels get better gas milage especially when towing and kicks a gas motors but on mpg when towin a RIG.

[Hope Springs Hauler]

Most every piece of heavy equipment, dozers, etc. including most tractor trailers use inline 6 cummins engines! :eek:
QUOTE]

Or Cat, or Komatsu, or Volvo, or Mercedes, or International..........

[QUOTE=KennyTJ;34159]Newer turbo Diesels get better gas milage especially when towing and kicks a gas motors but on mpg when towin a RIG.

Unless they have a DPF then they get worse mileage.


I know, but I have to be a PITA today:evilgrin:

[kingchango]

Most every piece of heavy equipment, dozers, etc. including most tractor trailers use inline 6 cummins engines!
Or Cat, or Komatsu, or Volvo, or Mercedes, or International..........+ detroit, mack, isuzu, perkins phaser.....

Unless they have a DPF then they get worse mileage.

x2

[GPER]

We'll let you slide on the Komatsu sine there first dozers did use a cummins engine. Like was stated everyone else uses their own engines.:D

[Coppertop]

I've always been a huge cummins engine fan.... So any truck with a cummins is a plus in my book.I've heard the same about the chrysler auto trannys.

Nick

[BIGRAM]

Thank you fellas. I'll be checking it out in the morning.

Anyone got a 5speed for me?

[tinbeater]

Thank you fellas. I'll be checking it out in the morning.

Anyone got a 5speed for me?

5 speeds are hard 2 find plus are $$$. Go head and run the auto tell you need to switch. I know where a nv4500 is and it may be bought???? I used to own it but traded it.

[KennyTJ]

[QUOTE=KennyTJ;34159]Most every piece of heavy equipment, dozers, etc. including most tractor trailers use inline 6 cummins engines! :eek:
QUOTE]

Or Cat, or Komatsu, or Volvo, or Mercedes, or International..........



Unless they have a DPF then they get worse mileage.


I know, but I have to be a PITA today:evilgrin:

Like I said most use Cummins, not all.... :p BTW most Cat products use Cummins motors. GE uses Cummins on thier big industrial backup generators also!

I agree the last few years CMUs are just programmed for crap, and the biodiesel, yuk!

[Hope Springs Hauler]

BTW most Cat products use Cummins motors.

I just looked through the online specs and my printed specs for CAT equipment and can't find a single mention of a Cummins motor. They had CAT C3.3, C3.4, 3054C, 3056E, 3512, 3516, ACCERT C9, C11, C13, C15, C18, C27, C32, C175. I just cant find a single reference to a cummins motor in a CAT. The little excavators have Mitsubishis in them though. If you can point me to a model that does have a Cummins, please show me.http://www.cat.com/engines

[hotrod]

[QUOTE=Hope Springs Hauler;34162] most Cat products use Cummins motors.

what? im with hope springs. why would CAT anything run a cummins? i dont buy that one...

[RuffedUpXJ]

Back to topic, why are you buying s diesel? Do you just think that you will need it in the future?

Just curious.

[BIGRAM]

It's actually my brother looking, I thought I could get some good info from this site. He currently has one of the squeakiest '03 Chevy trucks I have ever heard. 4WD makes aweful noise, sounds like a cat fighting a squirrel in the rearend during takeoff and it seams like a decent deal. He will be towing his XJ to the trails so the deisel makes good sense for the power. We'll see how it turns out in the morning

[truk]

dont let thee auto scare you !! i towed for years with one and loved it . never had a problem with it just use your head with it ! if it starts to hunt for gears aka dropping out of OD while towing then turn OD off that should save the tranny. as far as dodge trannys being bad that may be true but all the big 3 have problems with something ford injectors on 7.3s and the 6.0s wont say anything about them except boat anchors, gm allison trannys my son in law is making a killing replace them from being used in the mines. the cummins dodge seems to be the best set-up i think . loved my 04 dodge. my 2 cent matt

[Trigger]

What is he wanting to do with the truck? If he wants to keep it fairly stock, the Ford is a great choice. Yes, the 6.0 has some issues with studs and head gaskets, but only if you try to get more power out of them. I have an 06 F250 and love it. It's comfortable to drive, very quiet going down the road and doesn't feel like a truck. Plus, I tow my YJ on an 18' deckover with no problem at all. If he's going to want to add more power and be one of those Dodge guys (you know who I'm talking about), then tell him to get a Dodge. They seem to be very mod friendly and Cummins is darn near bulletproof. The downside is that the fit and finish on the Dodge isn't all that great. You basically have a great engine in a so-so truck. I don't know much about the Duramax, but I've heard they can be pretty expensive to build up and I know they are pretty expensive to get into, especially if you get a GMC.

[hotrod]

dont let thee auto scare you !! i towed for years with one and loved it . never had a problem with it just use your head with it ! if it starts to hunt for gears aka dropping out of OD while towing then turn OD off that should save the tranny. as far as dodge trannys being bad that may be true but all the big 3 have problems with something ford injectors on 7.3s and the 6.0s wont say anything about them except boat anchors, gm allison trannys my son in law is making a killing replace them from being used in the mines. the cummins dodge seems to be the best set-up i think . loved my 04 dodge. my 2 cent matt

the 04 has the 48re, better than the 47re that was in the 2nd gen trucks (even tho the truck your looking at is a first gen)

and the 6.0s are bad ass if they are built and are damn decent even stock. i drive a 7.3 and has more power than you would believe. its turned up some and can pull just about anything you want. :beers:

[KennyTJ]

I just looked through the online specs and my printed specs for CAT equipment and can't find a single mention of a Cummins motor. They had CAT C3.3, C3.4, 3054C, 3056E, 3512, 3516, ACCERT C9, C11, C13, C15, C18, C27, C32, C175. I just cant find a single reference to a cummins motor in a CAT. The little excavators have Mitsubishis in them though. If you can point me to a model that does have a Cummins, please show me.http://www.cat.com/engines

I'll keep this short not to get too far off topic but since the late 70's CAT has purchased thier engine long blocks (not all but for some of thier divisions) and had the heads and other components made from other sub contract vendors (just the same as every other manufacturer auto or other) Cummins has supplied "long blocks" to CAT from thier construction and mining engine divisions for a long time, of course contracts change all the time so you never know.

You don't see a Chevy Diesel truck with a huge flamming Isuzu emblems on it but guess where Duramax comes from.... and I'm not flaming them at all.

Never mind much like my wife this is a neverending story.... let's just move back too on topic for the OP.

[BIGRAM]

What is he wanting to do with the truck? If he wants to keep it fairly stock, the Ford is a great choice. Yes, the 6.0 has some issues with studs and head gaskets, but only if you try to get more power out of them. I have an 06 F250 and love it. It's comfortable to drive, very quiet going down the road and doesn't feel like a truck. Plus, I tow my YJ on an 18' deckover with no problem at all. If he's going to want to add more power and be one of those Dodge guys (you know who I'm talking about), then tell him to get a Dodge. They seem to be very mod friendly and Cummins is darn near bulletproof. The downside is that the fit and finish on the Dodge isn't all that great. You basically have a great engine in a so-so truck. I don't know much about the Duramax, but I've heard they can be pretty expensive to build up and I know they are pretty expensive to get into, especially if you get a GMC.

Just a stock driver and the occasional tow rig. Just got back from looking and it was a nice truck. As far as the ride, it is a regular cab truck. I'm 6'2" and it wasn't as bad as I thought it may be. The odometer had stopped on 178,xxx miles, not sure how many more was on it. The tranny has been replaced and some of the front end components. Body is solid and has been kept clean inside and out, and under the hood. There negotiating, what's the value of a truck in these conditions?

[hotrod]

Just a stock driver and the occasional tow rig. Just got back from looking and it was a nice truck. As far as the ride, it is a regular cab truck. I'm 6'2" and it wasn't as bad as I thought it may be. The odometer had stopped on 178,xxx miles, not sure how many more was on it. The tranny has been replaced and some of the front end components. Body is solid and has been kept clean inside and out, and under the hood. There negotiating, what's the value of a truck in these conditions?

3-4k maybe :confused:

[RD TRCTR]

Quite honestly, the truck you're looking at is a cruiser and a tow rig. The most mods that I would do to it is straight pipe it, air filter kit, boost, pyro and trans temp gauges. It'll run forever at stock power levels.

The automatic in the first gens aren't that bad, as long as you leave it alone. It's been awhile since I've been around one, but if it's possible, turn the OD off when towing and pulling grades.

The values of 1st gen Cummins trucks are all over the place. It really depends where the truck is located. All diesels sell for more than KBB value in KY, IN and OH.

If the truck you're looking at is 2WD, and in good shape, anywhere from $3k to $5k. If it's a 4WD it could be sold for as much as $10k.