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tjrider
02-13-2012, 06:49 PM
I know a lot of you guys are running these, but I want to convert to an electric fan set up on the tj. I know I can piece something together cheaper than buying a "kit". But I don't know what all I need to make this happen. What switches and such do I need and what kind of fan should I run. I do have a 180 thermostat in now. Thanks guys
superjeep
02-16-2012, 10:06 PM
Are you having it come on at a certian temp or off of a switch. I have mine on a switch so I can shut it off in deep water. my distributer is low on the engine. their is a bunch of ways to do it jegs has some good prices. If you get a bad fan (used junk yard fan) that works at first and goes out while you are out you are screwed. I had to find a junkyard and get a manual fan to throw back on the jeep to make it back to cincinnati after my electric fan locked up.
Shawn
underpowered
02-16-2012, 10:14 PM
the ford taurus 3.8l fan is very popular for this kinda swap. they are 2 speed and have a very high CFM rating.
tjrider
02-17-2012, 08:34 AM
I've been reading a lot about the taurus swap. I don't like deep water so probably no switch. I didn't know if anyone had used a fan from any local parts stores
carwash
02-17-2012, 08:59 AM
Almost any fan is great, as long as there is a proper shroud. The taurus fan is the whippety **** for sure, especially if you pick up the offroad aftermarket switch/relay system.
But again, almost any fan, if shrouded correctly is good to go.
Trigger
02-17-2012, 09:09 AM
I ran one out of Crown Vic that worked pretty well. Never had an issue with overheating.
humpy
02-17-2012, 09:27 AM
Almost any fan is great, as long as there is a proper shroud. The taurus fan is the whippety **** for sure, especially if you pick up the offroad aftermarket switch/relay system.
But again, almost any fan, if shrouded correctly is good to go.
X2 on the shroud... I have seen quite a few electric fan setups still let motor over heat because shroud wasn't up to par... It took me a while to realize thats why one o mine was overheating
fmlewis
02-17-2012, 01:09 PM
I run the Taurus fan on my 258 CJ. It works great. There is a lot of trimming that you need to do to the shroud to make it fit but it is an awesome fan. You can pick them up all day at Pull and Pay for about $25 and they come out pretty easy, 2 bolts and its out.
It is a very tight fit.
As far as relays go I think I'm running a 40amp (may be bigger, I just made sure the wires running into the relay were at least 12ga) relay for high and a 20amp for low. Again I picked up a pretty sweet relay rail down there also with relays for dirt cheap down there. I even think the lady at the counter let me have it no cost. I believe it came from a buick or some gm vehicle.
I ran the fan for awhile on just a switch and it drained my battery fairly often, because I basically ran it full time. So I ran a thermostat from Advance and it works great.
You definitely want to consider upgrading the Alternator if you go with the Taurus fan. On high it will drain the battery in about 15min. I haven't upgraded yet but I plan to.
tjrider
02-17-2012, 06:37 PM
I've read that the low speed is more than enough to cool a 4.0. I don't want to mess with a new alternator right now. So everyone just made a relay kit? I was hopin to just buy some kind of cheap off the shelf setup.
fmlewis
02-17-2012, 07:59 PM
You can buy a relay kit pretty cheap but it won't come with a thermostat probably. Advance has a few relay kits but your better off buying a kir that can handle high or just make one in my opinion.
itbrokeagain
02-17-2012, 10:34 PM
I have 2 electric fans from front wheel drive v8 caddys. They move lots and lots of air. $20 each
tjrider
02-18-2012, 10:47 AM
A 2 fan set up, or 2 separate fans? How did you wire them up?
cmartin
02-18-2012, 01:32 PM
I have the taurus setup on my 304 and low keeps it cool almost all the time. If i do use high it only takes a minute to bring it back down. Both high and low are switched on my cj
tjrider
02-18-2012, 01:45 PM
My main concern is I'm not that good at creating an electrical system from scratch. I have no idea where to start wiring this thing up......:confused:
Coppertop
02-18-2012, 03:47 PM
I purchased a electric fan relay kit from OREILYS a few years ago.The kit had everything you needed including the thermostat.The price was under 30.00 bucks.The taurus fan is a great choice.You should have no problem finding one at you-pull since there always at least twenty cars in the yard.
Nick
cmartin
02-18-2012, 04:57 PM
http://www.ado13.com/techs/relay.htm
is the relay wiring diagram for the high speed relay. I used a 75 amp relay from ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOSCH-TYCO-RELAY-75-AMP-12V-HEAVY-DUTY-HIGH-CURRENT-/290499370197
A on off on heavy duty switch and a 20 amp relay from a parts store for the low speed. Both are wired from a switched 12 volt source. The hot side of the relay came from a power block i had from my tbi wiring harness. Get one while you are at the pull and pay. They are on all of the 90's chevy trucks. It made it look alot cleaner when the wiring was finished. Plus gave me a few more hot spots for other stuff
Im not a great person with diagrams but there is only 4 wires to deal with per relay. I did have a buddy that helped and once we got started it wasn't bad to do
...I used a 75 amp relay from ebay...
That's an HD Truck relay available at Freightliner, Peterbilt, etc. O'Reilly's can get them from their DC, but it's not really a stock item. I have one in the WTF-J and it provides peace of mind knowing that the relay won't cook when I need it most.
cmartin
02-18-2012, 06:48 PM
That's an HD Truck relay available at Freightliner, Peterbilt, etc. O'Reilly's can get them from their DC, but it's not really a stock item. I have one in the WTF-J and it provides peace of mind knowing that the relay won't cook when I need it most.
I went big on the relay and wire for that same reason
cmartin
03-01-2012, 12:09 AM
My main concern is I'm not that good at creating an electrical system from scratch. I have no idea where to start wiring this thing up......:confused:
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D-954_wpRWsQ&v=-954_wpRWsQ&gl=US
Saw this today. It seems easier to wire. Funny a taurus fan and volvo are the same
tjrider
03-03-2012, 08:32 PM
Hopefully heading to the wonderful upull tomorrow. AKA: wheelers paradise... So I'm looking for a dodge ram alternator and either a volvo or tuarus fan?..... Might possibly snag an astro steering box for the future front stretch too
tjrider
03-13-2012, 10:31 PM
Had to look through 10 tauruses to finally find a good fan I can use. It was the last one I think. Picked up a durango 160 alternator to for $20. Not a bad score. Even had it tested and it works! Double bonus
tjrider
03-17-2012, 10:51 AM
Found a company out of texas that makes a wiring kit with a single sensor for $94. Minus a toggle. Not a bad deal I think, probably gonna order one
Coppertop
03-17-2012, 11:53 AM
No luck finding anything local??
Nick
tjrider
03-17-2012, 01:18 PM
Never really found any direct fit harnesses. This one basically a plug and play. Most of the ones around here are "universal", and this thing pulls some juice. So I don't want to be sitting on a trail with a burned up jeep:cool:
jlynch
03-17-2012, 06:15 PM
This works I have done 4 like this.
http://www.ado13.com/techs/relay.htm
is the relay wiring diagram for the high speed relay. I used a 75 amp relay from ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BOSCH-TYCO-RELAY-75-AMP-12V-HEAVY-DUTY-HIGH-CURRENT-/290499370197
A on off on heavy duty switch and a 20 amp relay from a parts store for the low speed. Both are wired from a switched 12 volt source. The hot side of the relay came from a power block i had from my tbi wiring harness. Get one while you are at the pull and pay. They are on all of the 90's chevy trucks. It made it look alot cleaner when the wiring was finished. Plus gave me a few more hot spots for other stuff
Im not a great person with diagrams but there is only 4 wires to deal with per relay. I did have a buddy that helped and once we got started it wasn't bad to do
cmartin
03-18-2012, 05:26 PM
This works I have done 4 like this.
J bird knows. Mine was one of them. Hahaha
tjrider
03-18-2012, 05:42 PM
In the diagram it only has 1 relay? Is that right? Couldn't see it real good:confused:
jlynch
03-18-2012, 09:47 PM
In the diagram it only has 1 relay? Is that right? Couldn't see it real good:confused:
You need 2 relays. One will be for the low side, which is a standard relay that you can get from advanced auto or auto zone. We got ours from an electronics store in Springboro. I can't remember the name of the place but they have a relay and a pigtail to plug into it. The second one is for the high side, which needs to be a high amp relay. We used the 75 amp bosch. If you need a hand let me know. You could bring your jeep over here or I could come to you. I live in Middletown.
tjrider
03-19-2012, 09:11 PM
What did you use for the temp control? Oreily sells the hayden ones
jlynch
03-20-2012, 07:50 AM
What did you use for the temp control? Oreily sells the hayden ones
We did not use a temp control. I run mine on low all the time and switch it to high if the motor gets warm. Low keeps it cool most of the time. It should not be a big deal to hook up a temp control if you want one.
kyrel69
03-20-2012, 10:48 AM
You need 2 relays. One will be for the low side, which is a standard relay that you can get from advanced auto or auto zone. We got ours from an electronics store in Springboro. I can't remember the name of the place but they have a relay and a pigtail to plug into it. The second one is for the high side, which needs to be a high amp relay. We used the 75 amp bosch. If you need a hand let me know. You could bring your jeep over here or I could come to you. I live in Middletown.
The place is called Parts Express :thumbup:
fmlewis
03-20-2012, 01:49 PM
We did not use a temp control. I run mine on low all the time and switch it to high if the motor gets warm. Low keeps it cool most of the time. It should not be a big deal to hook up a temp control if you want one.
You can buy a thermostat control from just about any parts store. I found mine at Advance. You can wire it inline with your relay so you can either manually control the low speed or let it come on automatically. I leave it on auto. If your running low all the time you will drain your battery so keep an eye on it.
tjrider
03-20-2012, 05:38 PM
I definitely don't won't it running all the time. I just want it on a temp control without a switch. I'm not a huge fan of deep water anyways
cmartin
03-20-2012, 05:57 PM
I definitely don't won't it running all the time. I just want it on a temp control without a switch. I'm not a huge fan of deep water anyways
Understand that especially if it is streetable. Ours are trail only rigs and crawling around in the woods in the summer the fan would be on all the time anyways. (Plus im to cheep to buy a sensor Hahahahahaha)
We are supposed to turn it off in deep mud holes but i never remember. You may want an off switch wired in somehow just in case you do end up somewhere and dont want it running
tjrider
05-11-2012, 06:17 PM
So I've been running this kit from Hollister road Co. For 3 weeks and its been great. Fan cycles on and off like factory. Very well built kit, only $94 too
tjrider
05-27-2012, 01:04 PM
Well...... everything works great when the fan motor is turning.... guess that's what you get from a junkyard sometimes. Gotta order a new motor and well be good to go
Haddix505
05-27-2012, 03:29 PM
What year Tuarus is the good fans in?
tjrider
05-28-2012, 08:53 PM
95-96ish. I believe it was the3.8 motor. Make sure the fan has 3 wires coming out of the motor
tjrider
07-05-2012, 07:12 PM
It lives!!!!!!!! Had to wait a while for a new fan motor
itbrokeagain
07-09-2012, 09:50 AM
How thick is this fan? I would like to see if it will fit between my radiator and engine.
tjrider
07-09-2012, 01:36 PM
I can measure it tonight, but I'd say @ 3" with motor. Not positive
tjrider
07-09-2012, 10:49 PM
My tj only had @4" between the block and radiator. You can trim some of the shroud as ling as it still fits your radiator. They are pretty slim though
itbrokeagain
07-10-2012, 12:09 AM
I may go this route then instead of changing the oil in my fan clutch. What application did you end up sourcing from?
tjrider
07-10-2012, 08:13 AM
95 Taurus with the 3.8 motor. Single 3 wire fan
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