Harlan Ky Oct 19/21

[Mudstud]

Starting the Thread for the trip to Harlan, Who's going or thinking about going? Hope to see everyone there!


Wife may be out of town that week-end. I may have a seat open.

[94Dodge Truggy]

People from all around will be there on that date. I am going the week before or after. What is the occasion on that date? People on other sites are talking it up too! I want to go and cover some ground on not so busy of a day.

[scarface]

Scott, were hoping to do another trip before rippin into the rigs for the winter. billy, Jacob, and I might join ya if you want a few more

[94Dodge Truggy]

Scott, were hoping to do another trip before rippin into the rigs for the winter. billy, Jacob, and I might join ya if you want a few more

Come along! I will post up later on a firm date.

[scarface]

alright, it will ether be there or badlands. Also where in fairfield do you live?

[94Dodge Truggy]

Fairfield twp. Princeton rd.

[comanchedude]

People from all around will be there on that date. I am going the week before or after. What is the occasion on that date? People on other sites are talking it up too! I want to go and cover some ground on not so busy of a day.

KMC fall crawl

http://tired-iron.mounet.com/FC07/

[tinbeater]

I will be there.:D

[carwash]

hmmm, a packed crowded weekend may not be the best time for rails down there... Brandon and I had planned on going, but not if it's going to be crazy packed... maybe livingston that same date? It's the only weekend i have available in october...

if all else falls thru, we still might do harlan, but i don't dont know how rail friendly the terrain is, can anyone help me out with that?

[94Dodge Truggy]

Livingston sounds like a good plan!

[Hybrid]

Hopefully i can find the time to get my shocks done:confused: so i can go with you guys! Sounds like a good time. Livingston would be a blast, i have never been to harlen.

[AKToy]

how far is livingston? My 4 year old is having trouble sleeping because he can't stop thinking about 4-wheelin' with dad. (I told him this summer we'd go in the fall.) If Livingston isn't too far away, that may be the ticket to get him sleeping again.

What's Livingson terrain like? Will 35" ATs work or not-a-chance? I have been putting off the TSLs bacause I still need to do some last minute tinkering - clutch, front antiwrap, attach sliders. I jsut has hernia surgery yesterday, so I've got that hurdle to clear too.

I hope I can make that trip. We'll see. I look forward to meeting some new folks.

[94Dodge Truggy]

45'' at's:confused: It is 3 hours from fairfield Ohio 45014

[AKToy]

45'' at's:confused: It is 3 hours from fairfield Ohio 45014


fixed. thanks.

Livingston: In KY? I'll google earth it from Dayton.

[muddinredneck513]

ive been to harlen once with quads! theres never endin ridin there! i was there for 3 days ridin 14 hour days and didnt hit the same trail twice except for the trail head! its real rocky and hilly! i didnt see any rails when i was there just 4x4 sami,jeeps ect no full size! but you can drive on the street into town no matter what you got! quad,trail rig it dont matter! but for the most part i loved it! but if you go be ready for hills!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mckeddie]

we'll be there, not for the fall crawl, but we will be there wheeling none the less that weekend.

greg

[sarge]

as of right now I'm not going to be able to go anywhere that week end . I have a manditory requalification on sat. :mad: :mad: :mad: I'm still trying to get out of it !!!!! if it's possible I may not goto Harlin, I was planning on a non-packed week-end .

[94Dodge Truggy]

Head out with us sarge!

[jamie L]

I hope I can get the rig back together by then & con Scott Armstrong into helping me re-build my cage

[sarge]

Head out with us sarge!


Where and when ?

[94Dodge Truggy]

Where and when ?

Wherever and whenever! Still thinking on it.:)

[carwash]

livingston... the original boo bash.

[94Dodge Truggy]

livingston... the original boo bash.

YEAH! That sounds like a great idea!

[tjjeepjeep]

livingston... the original boo bash.

Sounds fun. We're in...

[94Dodge Truggy]

Sounds fun. We're in...
No girls allowed! :rolleyes: This is the heman woman haters club! (quote from spanky in little rascals)

[tjjeepjeep]

No girls allowed! :rolleyes: This is the heman woman haters club! (quote from spanky in little rascals)


blah blah blah. :p Smart a$$. How'd you get in the club if it's 'heman'???

[Mudstud]

I never set the date. We picked that weekend at the meeting.I guess things have changed. When and Where?? Hope TKH has my ride ready.

[tjjeepjeep]

I never set the date. We picked that weekend at the meeting.I guess things have changed. When and Where?? Hope TKH has my ride ready.

That weekend still works well for us (and appears others). Would have been tricky for another weekend. Come on with us to Livingston. When will Marilyn know if she'll be able to go? (Course that's provided girlz is allowed and Truggy hasn't corrupted everyone else.:rolleyes: )

[Mudstud]

Ok. Same weekend but going to Livingston. Sounds good to me. Where are we going to camp. Remember, the field on the 80 side has been closed down. The 909 side looked a little rough to get to. Any Ideas?

Marilyn has a family reunion to attend in Tenn. that weekend. Trying to talk her out of going. Wheeling is WAY more important than family reunions.(Just Kidding) but she will not know for sure for a few more weeks.

Lisa, Marilyn said she will e-mail you tomorrow.

[tjjeepjeep]

Lisa, Marilyn said she will e-mail you tomorrow.
Awesome. I'll push the wheeling v family reunion too. ;)

[94Dodge Truggy]

Camping is a problem right now. I am researching alternative spots now. The motorcross site would allow us to park but the land is not flat anywhere and a monetary fee is required.

[carwash]

what about the field on the other side of the road from where we used to camp, the one where those kids were partying that one time...

[sarge]

That field is also the USFD property the signs were also pulled out of the ground and in the weeds.

[carwash]

so where can we camp at Livingston? should we hotel it?

[sarge]

Kevin Carder , Shawns brother , has said that CORE can camp on his property , he is in Mt. Vernon . short drive to 909 on trails or road ! :) or has anyone talked to the owner of the 49er ?, I think someone from the club was trying to get a hold of them to see if we could camp at the field by the Shell station.

Just to be clear ! are we planning on going to Livingston on Oct. 19-21 ?

[fabricator]

was down there in the spring
truck stop said we could park in the back of their lot
wish we would have cause my goose neck
caught the top of my tailgate coming back down out of there
happened right after pink rock, was pretty rough for a trailer
their info......
................................................
49er Fuel Center
I-75 Exit 49 (KY 909 W)
LIVINGSTON, KentuckY 40729
606-843-9042

[carwash]

wow, camping in the 49er would be ideal... great for RV's etc... so that's for sure Fabricator?

And yes sarge, I am looking at the 19-21. I would do harlan, but the rail will be on a fresh trans rebuild etc, and i need to prove it before i drive that far, and just not sure how great harlan is gonna be for a rail, etc.

Perhaps we should start a new livingston trail run thread.

[94Dodge Truggy]

I was wanting to get a thread goin

[fabricator]

wow, camping in the 49er would be ideal... great for RV's etc... so that's for sure Fabricator?

..........

It is for sure that I asked and it is for sure that they said was ok to stay in the back.
But i did it when i pulled up to get fuel
so that might have swayed their vote....
but they have told us this before, and we stayed there before.......has been a while.
I probably wouldn't try to push the issue with a fire or something......
spend a little money there if they give you permission.

[carwash]

so, where are they saying to camp... like keep going past the pumps and store, back to where it dead ends back there...

that is a nice flat area, and will be great... Have to bring the big RV again if so...

but no fires at all?

[94Dodge Truggy]

so, where are they saying to camp... like keep going past the pumps and store, back to where it dead ends back there...

that is a nice flat area, and will be great... Have to bring the big RV again if so...

but no fires at all?

Gotta have a small fire! Fire next to the gas station sounds like fun! :D

[94Dodge Truggy]

Hey Tinbeater and Fabricator! How about ditchin the parkinglot at Harlaan and ridin with us? Been itchin to see if Tinbeater can live up to his name ;) and the same thing for fabricator. Can he really fabricate? :p Come with us to Livingston and I will personally show you a good time! I may run over some rail buggies if they get in my way! Hah! I am planning on outjumping Carwash and his buggy so I may need Fabricators welder! :o

[carwash]

yer on Truggy....

and yes, like i said in the other thread, i don't think they have the balls to wheel with us, they'd rather sit in the parking lot and watch others play with their junk.

was really hoping to wheel with fabricator and tinbeater... maybe they can make the right choice.

[94Dodge Truggy]

You think they are sceeered Carwash?

[carwash]

fear of being out-wheeled, thats for sure.

[carwash]

Kevin Carder , Shawns brother , has said that CORE can camp on his property , he is in Mt. Vernon . short drive to 909 on trails or road ! :) or has anyone talked to the owner of the 49er ?, I think someone from the club was trying to get a hold of them to see if we could camp at the field by the Shell station.

Just to be clear ! are we planning on going to Livingston on Oct. 19-21 ?
so we have any more details on this, in case the 49'er doesnt pan out?

any way you can get a hold of shawn about this Sarge?

would be nice to have something set up before we go... it is less than 4 weeks away...

damn, that reminds me, i gotta get to work on teh rail.

[94Dodge Truggy]

I am good with vw's Carwash so let me know if you need me to test it out. I can pick it up this friday and bring it back to you by sunday for sure :rolleyes: !

[fabricator]

Ahh, UMmm
not sure which thread to stick my neck out in.

you guys want me to call
the 49er for ya

[tjjeepjeep]

Ahh, UMmm
not sure which thread to stick my neck out in.

you guys want me to call
the 49er for ya

If you'd call, that would be great. Unless we think they're gonna change their mind again on where we go that weekend... You can drop the reply in the other thread if you want.

[chris_dishmon]

man, there is some hardcore thread jacking here. i can't figure out who's going where and when what happens? :D

[tjjeepjeep]

man, there is some hardcore thread jacking here. i can't figure out who's going where and when what happens? :D

amen my friend. i'm not even sure a roadmap would help us at this point :D

[fabricator]

You think they are sceeered Carwash?

Tinbeaters puter is acting up.....so he says....
wanted me to ask you guys if you was skeered to wheel in the
parking lot with him. I assured him that you wasn't...
He thinks that you guys can't follow him around the speed bumps

I will call the 9er in the AM
if you are indeed skeered...um..i mean
if you guys are going to livingston.

[94Dodge Truggy]

Bring it! Truggy eats rice on occasion!;)

[chris_dishmon]

Bring it! Truggy eats rice on occasion!;)

:eek:

[94Dodge Truggy]

Rice eats truggy on occasion too chris.;)

[fabricator]

I will call the 9er in the AM
if you are indeed skeered...um..i mean
if you guys are going to livingston.

You guys want me to call them...

[94Dodge Truggy]

Hold up on that for now. Truggy and yogi rangers do not get along.

[TiredIronGRB]

So how many of you guys are coming to the Fall Crawl? There's plenty of room on the trails in Harlan come on out and join us.

If we get enough of you guys to come down we'll roll Fabricator in the mud pit.

George

[94Dodge Truggy]

Roll fabricator in the mud pit? I like that! Debating on harlan due to the crowd coming. I will go as long as someone can guarantee that I will be able to wheel and not sit in rush hour traffic. If I end up in traffic on the trails I will be tempted to run over Fabricator or tinbeater ;)

[TiredIronGRB]

I probably ride Harlan more than anyone and I've never seen it where you couldn't get around in the park and I've been there for every major event we've had.

The way the park is laid out you can't really get blocked in, every major obstacle has room for spectators and a bypass.

[94Dodge Truggy]

Two fellas in our club had an experience there last year in a jam on the trails. I guess at next weeks meeting we will see where in the hell we will be going! I like your pic. of the toyota. Been thinking of turning the Lexus 470 into a wheeler like you did with the Yot!

[TiredIronGRB]

Thanks, it's a pretty popular cruiser;)

Checkout my build thread (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=398873).

[94Dodge Truggy]

Portal axles! Toyota inline 6 cyl.! Etc... I would like to see it!

[TiredIronGRB]

Portal axles! Toyota inline 6 cyl.! Etc... I would like to see it!

It will be in Harlan for the FC...have you not seen it? Checkout this issue of Crawl, there's a feature on it.

[JeffK5]

I lurked on this build over on PBB, very cool.

[fabricator]

Portal axles! Toyota inline 6 cyl.! Etc... I would like to see it!

Truggy don't get out much, and he
is afraid of canopener i think

[tinbeater]

I probably ride Harlan more than anyone and I've never seen it where you couldn't get around in the park and I've been there for every major event we've had.

The way the park is laid out you can't really get blocked in, every major obstacle has room for spectators and a bypass.


Hey George, thats just excuses because they are scared.:D
We will be there. We're not.

[TiredIronGRB]

Hey George, thats just excuses because they are scared.:D
We will be there. We're not.

Oh I know you guys aren't scared...remember I've seen you wheel:eek:

[tinbeater]

Oh I know you guys aren't scared...remember I've seen you wheel:eek:

Its all in good fun, but some guys are calling us scared.;)
They probably will go run thru. some mud holes or something:rolleyes:

[carwash]

ok you ass-bags...

if the rail is back together, count brandon and I in for harlan.

that is, if you can verify that we won't be bored there in a rail... we don't do rock gardens in them, but can climb some good ledges etc...

is there terrain for us there?

[TiredIronGRB]

is there terrain for us there?

Yea...I'm afraid so:D

[carwash]

then count us is.

what kind of camping arrangements are there.

is it fully primitive... is there flat area where we could park a monster motor home?

are there hotels close to trail heads if some want that? restaurants close?

[94Dodge Truggy]

then count us is.

what kind of camping arrangements are there.

is it fully primitive... is there flat area where we could park a monster motor home?

are there hotels close to trail heads if some want that? restaurants close?

Sissy! I need a shower and a potty :p
Now I wanna go cuz I am going to outjump Carwashes rail.

[carwash]

i didn't say i needed a hotel or RV, was just asking in general, so i know what to expect, and can tell other involved parties of the amenities.

fag.

[sarge]

There is camp grounds surrounding the place , CORE went down last Memorial day and we stayed at the Harlin Co. Campground . it was packed but has water and electric hook ups. I'm still trying to get out of my work thing , if I can't I wouldn't be able to leave till Sat Morning . That a long drive just for one night :eek: heres the link :

http://www.harlancountycampground.com/

someone may want to check for open spots !!! they were full last time we went

[sarge]

DANG !!! just spent a little time on Kentucky crawlers site and now I really want to go BAD !!!!

If we go when is everyone heading out ?

[fabricator]

http://kymc.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3046&highlight=
verda field is in the city of everts, it was w/o hookups?
george can explain I guess
but it will hold about 350 busses, and 3 or 400 trucks with trailers
should be big enuf. motels and resturants are in Harlan
which is a few miles away
..................................
I really feel you guys need to George to be
trail leader so he can show you the correct way to
4 wheel
as far as myself and mudholes...well i may wind
up being rolled in it but i may take a few with me...lol

[fabricator]

Roll fabricator in the mud pit? I like that! Bla..Bla...Bla bla bla....I will be tempted to run over Fabricator or tinbeater ;)

Reported...lol

[tjjeepjeep]

Do you people not sleep?

Count us in whereever ya'll decide...

[TiredIronGRB]

There's plenty of room in the Verda field, it will have port-o-johns and water but the power hook ups will probably be taken by the vendors.

[carwash]

sounds like a good time to me... If i'm mobile, I'm in.

GRB, will you be camping there in the Verda field, or do you live down there? I would for sure like to have a guide around the place.

[94Dodge Truggy]

I will guide you Carwash :D ;)
Damn, I guess now I am going to the rush hour for a day mess too. I will be pissed if I am unable to get on a trail and the dynamite will be coming out and something is gonna blow! What time are you going to be picking me up Carwash? You can put the rail in my trailer and the truggy will have a companion for the ride down and back then

[carwash]

Are you a veteran of the place now? I think id rather guide myself that ride behind you. i can read a map too ya know...

I truly am hoping we can run with a few that have been there a bunch... from what i hear, this may be my new stomping grounds.

[carwash]

was just reading the link that fabricator posted...

is this a pay to play event? or just a fun get together?

saw in that thread that you can buy meal tickets etc. for lunch and dinner on saturday, that is pretty cool.

When are you heading down Fab?

[tjjeepjeep]

Back full circle to Harlan again huh? :rolleyes:

[carwash]

you can go wherever you want... and make little smirking smilies all you want as well...

[tjjeepjeep]

you can go wherever you want... and make little smirking smilies all you want as well...

It's more fun to annoy you though

[mckeddie]

we'll be down there, last year they had a poker run and some other stuff, at night they had a dj and stuff up in the park. it was a pretty good time. we rode on our own all weekend, just went to the party at night for a little bit. we really didn't see anyone all weeekend on the trails down there last year, and they had a pretty good turn out i guess.

greg

[TiredIronGRB]

I'll be at the Verda field some but I'm camping at the CG behind the Dairy Hut. No fee to ride, just a camping fee ($5). There will be several guides available.

[tinbeater]

Are you a veteran of the place now? I think id rather guide myself that ride behind you. i can read a map too ya know...

I truly am hoping we can run with a few that have been there a bunch... from what i hear, this may be my new stomping grounds.

The fabricator and myself can show you around if you like?
They are a few good steep hill climbs right off of the Bailey creek trail head that would be killer in a buggy.:D Hey George has anyone climbed cream puff or lower D. in a rail buggy that you know of.?

[carwash]

i have been told by many that i need to give cream puff a try, that no one in a rail has done it, and they say it can't be done... so I will for sure try.

I would love it if you and Rob could lead us around tinbeater... thanks for the offer. I talked to rob today, he says he is going to try to get out of town on friday morning... hopefully we can do that, if not, we will roll in friday evening.

is it quad friendly as well?

[tinbeater]

i have been told by many that i need to give cream puff a try, that no one in a rail has done it, and they say it can't be done... so I will for sure try.

I would love it if you and Rob could lead us around tinbeater... thanks for the offer. I talked to rob today, he says he is going to try to get out of town on friday morning... hopefully we can do that, if not, we will roll in friday evening.

is it quad friendly as well?

There are a few climbs right by cream puff that is also awsome. But I dont think they have names for them? at least thats what Ronnie Shoope told me the last time we was there.
As far as been quad frieindly it is very much so.

[TiredIronGRB]

Hey George has anyone climbed cream puff or lower D. in a rail buggy that you know of.?

Nope, it would be a first:eek:

There are a few climbs right by cream puff that is also awsome. Upper Damnation and Pony Hill are two more that have never been done in a rail.

[JeffK5]

Mike , from the one time I was there your rail will climb anything at Harlan. The big factor will be how much risk your willing to take;)

[94Dodge Truggy]

Carwash take risks? :eek: I don't know?

[carwash]

I will try anything that i think won't kill me... I don't want to cartwheel it off the side of a mountain tho...

I look forward to doing some stuff that hasn't been done in a rail... i will be famous...

[94Dodge Truggy]

Can you make me famous too? Maybe I can ride passenger! On second thought I may be on the safe side and watch. Then I can atleast say I saw you do it or attempt to ;)

[carwash]

yer already famous, world's ugliest rig.

[94Dodge Truggy]

yer already famous, world's ugliest rig.

:mad: :( thats not nice! Kinda mean!

[carwash]

:mad: :( thats not nice! Kinda mean!
yes, but kinda true.

[fabricator]

yer already famous, world's ugliest rig.

damn, what a shot....

[carwash]

you must have never seen it rob.

[carwash]

a little harlan video

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[94Dodge Truggy]

Fabricator got a good look at it. So did tinbeater. Post up footage of WV trip and show em!

[94Dodge Truggy]

a little harlan video

bJoucKqukiI

Seen it already

[carwash]

well thanks scott, great to know.

here is a video of a single seater on 44's on cream puff... maybe you haven't seen this one, but if so, i do apologize.

http://media.putfile.com/cream-Puff-rail

[94Dodge Truggy]

I couldn't get it to open for me! I think I have seen it too though :D

[carwash]

it's a pretty bad ass hill looks like... only 3 rigs have ever made it up.

[tinbeater]

Fabricator got a good look at it. So did tinbeater. Post up footage of WV trip and show em!

I could'nt look long, my eyes started to hurt.:D

[tjjeepjeep]

Videos are cool. Anxious to see it all in person.


it's a pretty bad ass hill looks like... only 3 rigs have ever made it up.

Maybe we can witness the 4th huh??

[carwash]

i wouldnt count on it... cross your fingers tho

[mckeddie]

it's a pretty bad ass hill looks like... only 3 rigs have ever made it up.

actully, more have now. the yellow TJ in the video above walked it 2 times in the same day, and frank, a guy from here that lives in evarts now has climbed it a few times in a couple of different rigs.

greg

[fabricator]

see carwash.....
you can do it.

[carwash]

thought the guy in the yellow rig still hadn't made it...

anyways...

is it an issue of rollover risk, or is just not being able to crest the last bit at the top, and having to back down?

[TiredIronGRB]

Several people have done CremePuff but only when it was very dry. Pony Hill and Upper Damnation will be wild in a rail.

[tinbeater]

Several people have done CremePuff but only when it was very dry. Pony Hill and Upper Damnation will be wild in a rail.

It looks like Pony hill and upper damnation is A hard climb?
I dont have anything for any of the 3.

[sarge]

OK ! I got Friday off and don't have to qualify on Sat. morning ,,,,, So as long as the funds are availible I will be leaving out Friday Morning. I have not decided if I'm bringing the RV or not do to gas $$$. If I do bring it I should have a few spots open to crash. If not we be tenting it !!

I have to see Carwash on CremePuff , maybe a repeat of the shoots at 909 !!!

[94Dodge Truggy]

Sarge, if you are unable to bring the rv and do not want to bother with a tent I will have the enclosed trailer (barn) with me. You can sleep in there if you want as long as you don't snore!

[sarge]

Well that sounds like a plan , but the snoring and my beer intake are directly connected to each other :D or so I've been told .. My snoring has never bothered me :eek:

You've got mail !!

[fabricator]

directions to from Cincinnati to Harlan county Jail
if you are wondering, Verda Field is right
behind said jail, which is where the festivities are.

Tinbeater and myself will be there and be more than
glad to show you guys all we know about the park.
So, how many are in? If anyone?

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=45237&daddr=6000+Highway+38,+Evarts,+Ky.+40828&sll=37.866181,-83.924561&sspn=4.180076,7.404785&ie=UTF8&ll=37.874853,-83.924561&spn=4.179585,7.404785&z=7&om=1

[drmeece]

I'm in!!!

[sarge]

So if a few of us roll into Everts Friday afternoon in RV's there will be plenty of room in the field to set up??

[TiredIronGRB]

Yes, it's a big field.