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yellowjacket 04-29-2012 07:33 PM

Trailor fender ideas...
 
Anyone got slick ideas for trailor fenders?

Removable fenders, drive over fenders, ect... Lookin for pics of the ultimate setup..:)

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timido 04-29-2012 08:34 PM

I like the ones that you can swing out then you can just drive on the tires.

underpowered 04-29-2012 09:19 PM

my dad has some 1/4" tread plate reinforced fenders on his trailer that we drive over with full size rigs. only issue is with a broken rig, it can be a pain to load as the ends are kinda steep.

or something like this
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...ailer03004.jpg

carwash 04-29-2012 10:49 PM

Check out how the uhaul auto transport trailers do it, it's pretty sweet setup.

By the way, driver over fenders are great until you have to load a disable rig onto the trailer.

frankensteinxj 04-30-2012 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by timido (Post 63945)
I like the ones that you can swing out then you can just drive on the tires.

this.

Make up a hinge system so you can just flip the fender over out of the way and put it back when done.
Ill be doing this to mine.

blazerbrad 04-30-2012 12:41 PM

Drive over fenders are very convenient and I love mine, but also as mentioned above loading broken rigs can be a pain. I've had steering issues and even a broke front axleshaft (down to 3 wheel drive) that made it a pain. For the 3 wheel drive time it was raining and slick enough (diamond tread deck) that it spun sideways while trying to back over the fenders to unload. We had to hook a forklift to it to pull it back sideways. This was with aired down 38's. My plan is to eventually build drive-over fenders that can be removed or swung out of the way relatively easy.

yellowjacket 04-30-2012 01:15 PM

Lot of good advice here...

I would think that to make a drive over fender that would be strong enuff, would also make it heavy enuff to be a pain if it was designed to be removable.......

So if one had to choose, sounds like removable be the way to go.

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KillerKoatings 04-30-2012 01:50 PM

Todd just did mine at shotgun fab. I took him 2 new fenders and and four hold down straps I got at truck and trailer off of Richwood and he fabbed up some removeable fenders for me. Just used some approx 1/2" id/od square tube and made it so the pieces welded to the fenders slid into the pieces on the trailer, just like a trailer hitch. Now both fenders come off if needed really basic but very effective

yellowjacket 04-30-2012 03:26 PM

Pics?

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blazerbrad 05-01-2012 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowjacket (Post 63961)
Lot of good advice here...

I would think that to make a drive over fender that would be strong enuff, would also make it heavy enuff to be a pain if it was designed to be removable.......

So if one had to choose, sounds like removable be the way to go.

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I'm pretty confident you could make a set of drive over fenders that would be plenty strong enough and still be able to move them around reasonably. Keep in mind the idea with having drive over is that you shouldn't have to remove them on a regular basis. You also don't need to make the entire fender beefy but rather just enough of a frame for the tires on the rig to drive over and then just use the stock thin fender material for actual trailer tire coverage.

Part of this also depends on the position of the rig when loaded. On my 18' trailer the weight distribution is just right when I pull the back tires up against the drive over fenders. If they were removable I would have to remove the fenders, pull the rig on the trailer part of the way (front tires past the fenders), get out and put the fenders back on, get back in the rig and pull it forward until the rear tires touched.

cmartin 05-01-2012 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerKoatings (Post 63962)
Todd just did mine at shotgun fab. I took him 2 new fenders and and four hold down straps I got at truck and trailer off of Richwood and he fabbed up some removeable fenders for me. Just used some approx 1/2" id/od square tube and made it so the pieces welded to the fenders slid into the pieces on the trailer, just like a trailer hitch. Now both fenders come off if needed really basic but very effective

That is how mine are too but i welded nuts to the outside tube connected to the fender and drilled a clearance hole for a 3/8 bolt and double nut to tighten the two pieces together. Mine rattled otherwise.

boomhauer 05-01-2012 04:46 PM

i just did my trailer so i could drive over one fender with full size axles. used a piece of 1/4 x 4 piece of angle. just made the angles up and down in front of and behind the fenders long enough so as not to be that much of an issue if it were to come down to a 3 or 2 wheel drive situation. then again, i would think that if the angles were to great for that situation then anyone running a rig that big would also have a winch on the front to help itself pull over the fender. the 4" provides more than enough so as to only have to drive over one fender and not both. btw, my trailer is 16'. 2' of which is the dovetail and i have a truckbox on the front of the deck and my rig is 117" center of wheel to center of wheel and it sits on there perfectly for weight distribution without have to sit either tire on the angle.

i would send you a pic but i just lost my i-phone and i do not own a digital camera.

KargoMaster 05-01-2012 11:11 PM

I've done the broken rig limping onto trailer over fenders PITA...
That is why I'm partial to the deck-over.

Added benefit is no worries about dropping a tire off the edge, or clipping a mailbox because the track width is the same(-ish) as the truck. Higher COG is the price I pay, but I'm quite comfortable with the setup...

But I digress... the lower angle that you can get away with if they're non-removable the better... removable, or pivoting... I'm quite certain that you can come up with something functional that looks worthy of putting "YellowJacket Fab" on the side...

yellowjacket 05-02-2012 10:15 AM

Lol..im restructuring..its gonna be "bumblebee fab"... Then next year its gonna be " hornet fab"...i figured out the system:)

I like the thought brought up about where the rig sits on the trailor.. Cause depending on how the fenders go back on could be a pain moving rig multiple times....good point....

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gothodgie 05-02-2012 11:17 AM

some good bracing and 8"x 2"x 1/8" channel and you are good to go... I have seen this set up on a guys trailer that mud races a full size chevy and it worked well...

blazerbrad 05-02-2012 12:30 PM

Just another comment, my suggestion is to make the ramp wide enough so you don't have to worry about slipping a tire off the side of it if you are not perfectly centered when pulling on. I've been a few situations where there was snow/ice or muddy tires that made the deck and ramps pretty slick.

rufnrdy 05-04-2012 10:52 PM

If your rig is already wide enough to need drive over fenders,why only when it breaks is it a pain in the ass.Mines a pain whenever it breaks.Riddle me Batman because I am going full width and have to do drive over fenders.

yellowjacket 05-05-2012 06:48 AM

I fully intend on being narrower than fenders. But it be nice to haul someone elses rig, or if my rig grows wider someday, ect...

I need new fenders anyway, and trailor needs new paint and stuff, seems like now would be the time to do it all.

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underpowered 05-05-2012 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rufnrdy (Post 64193)
If your rig is already wide enough to need drive over fenders,why only when it breaks is it a pain in the ass.Mines a pain whenever it breaks.Riddle me Batman because I am going full width and have to do drive over fenders.

its a pain when it breaks mainly because last time i broke, my rig with muddy tires on a wet wood deck would not drive itself over the fender in only 2 wheel drive. with a full 4wd rig, you can drive right over them but with a non running or partially disabled rig that little 10" hump to get over the fenders becomes a mountain that usually requires assistance to get over. granted, a winch on the rig or the trailer either one can remedy this pretty easily but just enough to make it a pain.

blazerbrad 05-05-2012 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by underpowered (Post 64196)
its a pain when it breaks mainly because last time i broke, my rig with muddy tires on a wet wood deck would not drive itself over the fender in only 2 wheel drive. with a full 4wd rig, you can drive right over them but with a non running or partially disabled rig that little 10" hump to get over the fenders becomes a mountain that usually requires assistance to get over. granted, a winch on the rig or the trailer either one can remedy this pretty easily but just enough to make it a pain.

Ditto. As I mentioned previously when I was down to only 3wd (locker in front but broke a shaft) and tried to unload in the rain the deck and ramps were slick enough that the tires spun and the rear end swung sideways. There wasn't enough room to rock back and forth to get is straightened out on it's own. Another time I blew the end cap out of the steering box and thus loss powersteering (and with the hydro assist ram I had almost no steering).....ironically just down the street at the county fair mud bog. With mud caked tires it was a pain to get it lined up and drive on and off as going over the ramps requires a little more control.

In normal conditions I have absolutely no issues loading or unloading with the drive over fenders. Positioning (how far forward) is really easy as I just pull up until the rear tires are against the ramps.

rufnrdy 05-05-2012 11:41 AM

Gotcha,thanks guys.Sounds like a winch on the trailer and along approach over the fenders it is.

67fastback 05-18-2012 12:50 AM

Look what this guy did .. it is in the for sale section

http://www.cincyoffroad.com/forum/at...1&d=1337046452
http://www.cincyoffroad.com/forum/at...1&d=1337046452

kentuckytwostep 05-18-2012 08:36 AM

I plan to stay narrower than my fenders too BUT it would still be nice to have a removable drivers side fender for getting out of cars... :rolleyes:


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