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fmlewis 09-27-2012 12:30 PM

Radiators Aluminum vs. Copper
 
I am on the market for a radiator for the jeep. Mine sprung a leak recently and I had it repaired once a while back but I think after almost 30years its time to get replaced.

So I was wondering aluminum vs. copper, pros / cons, life expectancy, brands to stay away from, etc.

I can pick up an aluminum one from Shepherd Autoparts for $165 or a replacement copper one for around $200.

I have heard issues of corrosion in aluminum versions but I like the better heat dissipation. I am considering upgrading from a 2core to a 3core.

I'm running a mildly built 258.

93 Krawler 09-27-2012 12:46 PM

I think the plastic/aluminum rads are junk. They don't last as long as the brass/copper or an all aluminum radiator. The plastic sides seem to fail. The copper rads can usually be fixed with solder and flux. My .02 :beers:

T-bird 09-27-2012 01:23 PM

If you got 30 years out of the stock one, than I wouldn't look at anything else.

fmlewis 09-27-2012 03:01 PM

I agree the plastic tank versions are junk. The one I'm looking at is an all aluminum version tanks and all and its a 3row. My current one is a 2row.

Here is the website:
http://www.shepherdautoparts.com/all...ries/1983.html

The one I have is stock. I assume its original but maybe not.

I like the better heat dissipation of aluminum but the copper ones are tried and true.

Flxratd 09-27-2012 03:58 PM

i hope aluminum since i have 3 of them.. most all new car manufactures have aluminum core plastic tank versions and in all the years i have been doing this i have never seen the core go bad that wasnt a result of some kind of impact, but as far as the plastic tanks they all break. that being said i would go all aluminum. :thumbup:

nshefbuch 09-27-2012 05:41 PM

First thing about cheap aluminum radiators is they are a epoxy core only. This is pretty weak and doesn't last long. I discovered this from using a universal jegs 2-1" core. Only lasted 2-3 years. The epoxy breaks down and small leaks start.

A good aluminum radiator is pressure braised and epoxy over top. Also, for off road you can't solid mount an aluminum radiator and you need a floating type of mounting system that allows the radiator to move. Hope this helps.

Drivermod 09-27-2012 09:03 PM

Copper actually provides better heat transfer than aluminum.

blazerbrad 09-28-2012 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Drivermod (Post 69302)
Copper actually provides better heat transfer than aluminum.

Was going to say the same thing, copper has better heat transfer properties than aluminum.

fmlewis 09-28-2012 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drivermod (Post 69302)
Copper actually provides better heat transfer than aluminum.

Comparing copper to aluminum, apples to apples, you are correct. But the aluminum radiators are engineered to have move surface area, use larger water passage tubes, and more fins per inch. Making them similar in efficiency.

blazerbrad 09-28-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fmlewis (Post 69312)
Comparing copper to aluminum, apples to apples, you are correct. But the aluminum radiators are engineered to have move surface area, use larger water passage tubes, and more fins per inch. Making them similar in efficiency.

Do you know for a fact that "all" aluminum radiators are engineered this way? Not debating or arguing, just asking.

nshefbuch 09-28-2012 08:31 PM

Yes copper transfers heat Better than aluminum BUT,

Their is so much solder in a copper radiator that makes at least two different types of metal to make one radiator and all this solder doesn't transfer heat near like copper or even aluminum for that matter. An aluminum radiator is 100% aluminum as they "weld" or braise the tubes with aluminum. The tubes and cores are much bigger, like my griffin for example. Has 2 cores each 1.25" thick. In comparison it will out cool a 6 core copper.

Coppertop 09-29-2012 10:50 AM

Copper or aluminum....As long as it's high quality.Ether one ,will do the job.The aluminum ones seem to cost more,the main reason I chose copper.

Nick

itbrokeagain 09-29-2012 01:44 PM

Copper cools better than aluminum. The solder is mostly zinc or nickel And some tin.


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