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sarge · 01-26-2008, 07:52 PM

Go down to the BMV , and pick a DL application and read it . When you sign to get your DL you are signing the consent to take any warranted test requested by LE.
I really hope that you don't think COP's is really how it happens ( no offense Wilson ) but damn man ..... it's TV.
Lets look at it this way . you get pulled over by me because you were all over the road bouncing off the curbs and ran a mini-van full of kids off the road. I approach your vehcle and ask for your DL and ask if you have had anything to drink this evening . You reply with " nope and I aint taking your stupid tests . this is when I grin and say your under arrest.

Now comes court . the judge is going to be reading my report and states the facts and the facts about you refusing to cooperate with one of his officers ( not a really good thing ). Your attorney is already into you for what ..... about $1500.00 . All your attorney can say is .... you were not drunk . And the Judge says... then why did you refuse the test ?????? HMMMMMM !! Then I get to put my 15 years of OVI practice to the test . Then we schedule a trail , more $$$$ for the attorny and me !! Either way it goes you are the loser $$$$$$$$ , I and most cops could care less in the end who wins or loses. In fact I never check on the outcome of cases. I do not care , I did my Job and that was to get the Drunk off the street.
There are bad cops out there that pull people over for bogus crap to try and squeeze an OVI out of it. This is Crap, but what can you do .... there is bad apples in every walk of life. I have only had one person blow under, out of the hundreds that I've tested , and he was so screwed up on pills that he had to be taken to the hospital to get pumped ! I'm not bragging , I'm just very good at determining intoxication level.
In Butler Co. if you go to court on a 1st offense OVI and you blew over a 0.08 and cooperated you are very unlikely to get a OVI conviction. You will get a physical control or something else and you will be able to get work privledges. Refuse everything and good luck and may the judge have mercy on your ass.
Like I said above , if it's your second or more ........ well thats another story . It's kinda like being under suspension and refusing a BAC test ..... it really doesn't matter you aint got a DL anyway .

I can only say that this is how it goes in Butler Co. , Hamilton Co. may be different.

Bottom line is .. Attorney's are in this for the money , if you take the tests, you are more then likely going to court twice , once for your 5 day hearing and once for your court appearance . If you refuse then it's trail time and that means at least three court appearences and that means your attorny can charge you more. So you can bet your butt that they are going to tell everyone to refuse . I have several very big attorney's in Butler Co. that I go to , to better my ability to testify in court and behind closed doors they laugh at all the pieces of crap that give them big bucks to get them out of an OVI and have admitted that the above is very true.

Believe what you want , but, I have been doing this for a long time and witnessed many refusals and many tests. I would have to recommend that if it's your first OVI take the tests, and save your money for reinstatement fees and impound fees , anything more then your first and it really doesn't matter does it ?

01-26-2008, 07:52 PM	#10
sarge Pure Bacon Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trenton, Oh Posts: 1,098	Go down to the BMV , and pick a DL application and read it . When you sign to get your DL you are signing the consent to take any warranted test requested by LE. I really hope that you don't think COP's is really how it happens ( no offense Wilson ) but damn man ..... it's TV. Lets look at it this way . you get pulled over by me because you were all over the road bouncing off the curbs and ran a mini-van full of kids off the road. I approach your vehcle and ask for your DL and ask if you have had anything to drink this evening . You reply with " nope and I aint taking your stupid tests . this is when I grin and say your under arrest. Now comes court . the judge is going to be reading my report and states the facts and the facts about you refusing to cooperate with one of his officers ( not a really good thing ). Your attorney is already into you for what ..... about $1500.00 . All your attorney can say is .... you were not drunk . And the Judge says... then why did you refuse the test ?????? HMMMMMM !! Then I get to put my 15 years of OVI practice to the test . Then we schedule a trail , more $$$$ for the attorny and me !! Either way it goes you are the loser $$$$$$$$ , I and most cops could care less in the end who wins or loses. In fact I never check on the outcome of cases. I do not care , I did my Job and that was to get the Drunk off the street. There are bad cops out there that pull people over for bogus crap to try and squeeze an OVI out of it. This is Crap, but what can you do .... there is bad apples in every walk of life. I have only had one person blow under, out of the hundreds that I've tested , and he was so screwed up on pills that he had to be taken to the hospital to get pumped ! I'm not bragging , I'm just very good at determining intoxication level. In Butler Co. if you go to court on a 1st offense OVI and you blew over a 0.08 and cooperated you are very unlikely to get a OVI conviction. You will get a physical control or something else and you will be able to get work privledges. Refuse everything and good luck and may the judge have mercy on your ass. Like I said above , if it's your second or more ........ well thats another story . It's kinda like being under suspension and refusing a BAC test ..... it really doesn't matter you aint got a DL anyway . I can only say that this is how it goes in Butler Co. , Hamilton Co. may be different. Bottom line is .. Attorney's are in this for the money , if you take the tests, you are more then likely going to court twice , once for your 5 day hearing and once for your court appearance . If you refuse then it's trail time and that means at least three court appearences and that means your attorny can charge you more. So you can bet your butt that they are going to tell everyone to refuse . I have several very big attorney's in Butler Co. that I go to , to better my ability to testify in court and behind closed doors they laugh at all the pieces of crap that give them big bucks to get them out of an OVI and have admitted that the above is very true. Believe what you want , but, I have been doing this for a long time and witnessed many refusals and many tests. I would have to recommend that if it's your first OVI take the tests, and save your money for reinstatement fees and impound fees , anything more then your first and it really doesn't matter does it ?