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Old 11-10-2011, 10:48 PM   #1
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history of cincyoffroad....

so whats the story on u guys. i see core prez strongarm joined in 08, chatty girl in 07....ect....but i joined in 08 and seemed like well established at that point.....

was there a club before the site or how did this come to be?

maybe someone needs to make a brady bunch history song intro?

fill us in....

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Old 11-10-2011, 11:03 PM   #2
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Good question, I have seen some core wheeling videos that were nicely made from back in the day maybe from the 90's? Whats the story.
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:22 PM   #3
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so whats the story on u guys. i see core prez strongarm joined in 08, chatty girl in 07....ect....but i joined in 08 and seemed like well established at that point.....

was there a club before the site or how did this come to be?

maybe someone needs to make a brady bunch history song intro?

fill us in....

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Old 11-10-2011, 11:57 PM   #4
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Yes, what the hell is the story? someone fill us in!
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Old 11-11-2011, 08:33 AM   #5
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Yes, what the hell is the story? someone fill us in!
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Old 11-11-2011, 09:46 AM   #6
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CORE has been around for awhile. Two local guys decided to start a off road club to meet some new people interested in the sport. In 2002, they filed paperwork and formed Cincinnati Off Road Enthusiasts. I know there were some nice vids done in the early years. Believe there was a CORE DVD that covered 2002 and 2003 runs (of which I can't find my copy).

Alot happened in the 5 years before I joined in 2007, some of which if anyone wants to expand on they can. I've been Secretary since 2008, when there were 15 paid members and 50 forum members. Now in 2011, we now have 42 paid members and I activate at least 5 new forum members a week.

What else ya want to know?
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Old 11-11-2011, 04:01 AM   #7
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Guess they want to keep it to themselves and did not to do a..


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Old 11-13-2011, 12:53 PM   #8
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It makes me want to go through my pictures of Livingston, that place WAS the best.:(
I agree. Gotta love the how the Feds finally closed it down using loop holes. You can't even get a vehicle back to the stair steps and pink rock is gone as well.


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Old 11-13-2011, 09:15 PM   #9
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yea i miss Livingston too... I have some pictures posted on here from when i used to wheeling there back in the mid to late 90s... For 4 or 5 years back then we used to go to Livingston at least 1 a month( 1.39 gas)...

These are probavly from 98...
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Old 11-14-2011, 02:20 AM   #10
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I agree. Gotta love the how the Feds finally closed it down using loop holes. You can't even get a vehicle back to the stair steps and pink rock is gone as well.


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The feds didn't close anything. Can't "close" a place that was never officially "open" to any kind of offroad activity. 909 is a state/county road. It goes from rt 25 all the way to rt 80. At one time it was a maintained travelled road, evident by such things like the full size schoolbus stranded way back there, etc.

The only place you are "legally" allowed to drive down there, both currently and in the past is on the main road, as it is a county road. Everything off the main road is privately owned land, and therefore you are trespassing. No different than if someone decided to take their jeep and tear up your back yard at your house.

The landowners just looked the other way for years, because it really didn't affect them too much. Until... these landowners decided to let some logging companies come in and do some logging. This was all fine and dandy until all of the million dollar logging equipment started to get vandalized and destroyed. At that point the land owners had no choice but to get the authorities involved.

As more and more land was given up to logging, it became necessary to smoothe the areas out even more, such as pink rock now being a "paved" road.

It's sad to pull in there now and see it the way it is. I miss those trails. They were our stomping grounds for years. Big Wally, Falcon's Ridge, the Playground, Ghost Hill, the Notches, the Coal Chutes, etc. It was Livingston that made me fall deep in love with wheeling.
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Old 11-14-2011, 09:27 AM   #11
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Logging causes us to lose a lot of trails also. One of the problems we have is that we run legal township roads that are unmaintained and therefore pretty rough, but then the loggers come in with a bulldozer and gravel trucks and now it 's a two lane road you could run in a Civic.

I also find it ironic that people have a fit about the offroad guys tearing up the woods with a two track road that you can't even see in an aerial photo, but it's okay for the loggers to come in and make a 50 square acre area look like the center of a napalm strike. They never do this anywhere close to a paved or gravel road where the general public could see it......they always do nice select cut timbering and clean up after themselves in these areas, but travel back on a rough trail and we come across these barren landscapes with piles of stumps all over the place. I understand the loggers are just doing their job, so this is more geared to the anti-fourwheeling people.
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Old 11-14-2011, 12:27 PM   #12
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A few weeks ago I had to go to South Carolina for work and on the way down 75 I just couldn't resist stopping at the 49er and then going up the main trail ......



This was were we used to camp along the main trail on the left just past pink rock ( which is completly gone now ) .

I miss the big trips down there , been a few times over the last few years , we have been wheeling at a place that connects to 909 called Sand Springs , but it is just not the same....
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Old 11-14-2011, 04:14 PM   #13
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There was some very big private money involved with the closure and reclamation of Livingston. I met one of the major financers and she was definitely anti everything except for minnows and crawfish.
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