Full hydro question

93 Krawler · 05-09-2013, 02:11 PM

To vent or not to vent. Why should you vent the system, and what happens if you don't?

Hope Springs Hauler · 05-09-2013, 02:25 PM

I plan to vent mine to account for heat expansion. Maybe use a "tip over valve" like used on a fuel cell.

yellowjacket · 05-09-2013, 04:47 PM

single ended ram- must vent to atmosphere.

double ended- just need a bellows for expansion as mentioned

93 Krawler · 05-09-2013, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowjacket

single ended ram- must vent to atmosphere.

What happens if you don't?

twiztedzuki · 05-09-2013, 07:25 PM

mine aint vented, no troubles so far

biggin69 · 05-09-2013, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 93 Krawler

What happens if you don't?

You risk blowing a seal. My PCS Reservoir came vented.

yellowjacket · 05-09-2013, 08:16 PM

when a single ended ram is fully extended(piston out)your fluid level in your resoivoir drops becausethe fluid volume is now in thecylinder. when cylinder is fully collapsed(piston in) the fluid fills back in the resoivoir which will always be when the resoirvoir is "fullest". if u dident have any vent the resoivoir would go into a vacume when cylinder is extended and wouldgo into a positive when cylinder is collapsed (talking about the air space in the resovoir).

on a double ended ram as the piston collapses on one side it extends on the other so theram actually holds close to the same amount of volume at all points of stroke except at full lock both ways and even then it dosent change drastically. so the fluid in the resoivoir dosent move up and down as drastically, so the air gap between fluid level and cap dosent change as much. you still have some movement and as mentioned expansion as fluid gets warmer.

single ended could get by with a bellows but it would have to be huge..never seen one big enuff. im sure if u had one and did lock to lock it would look quite vulgar :)

a lot of rigs that dont think they are vented with a single ended ram actually have some leakage in the cap or resorvoir(thereby are indeed"vented")

05-09-2013, 02:11 PM	#1
93 Krawler >>>PMC<<< - CORE Member - - Administrator - Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ross, OH Posts: 2,069 Images: 1268	Full hydro question To vent or not to vent. Why should you vent the system, and what happens if you don't?

05-09-2013, 02:25 PM	#2
Hope Springs Hauler Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 431 Images: 16	I plan to vent mine to account for heat expansion. Maybe use a "tip over valve" like used on a fuel cell. __________________ 1988 Suzuki Samurai on propane FJ 40 axles (4.10) 5.14 tcase 36" TSL SX

05-09-2013, 04:47 PM	#3
yellowjacket barely breathing Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: alexandria, ky Posts: 889	single ended ram- must vent to atmosphere. double ended- just need a bellows for expansion as mentioned __________________ my next rig will be on the trail before zuk 2.0 will

05-09-2013, 07:25 PM	#5
twiztedzuki Join Date: May 2008 Location: Waverly ohio Posts: 586	mine aint vented, no troubles so far __________________ SMITH BUILT PERIOD

05-09-2013, 08:16 PM	#7
yellowjacket barely breathing Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: alexandria, ky Posts: 889	when a single ended ram is fully extended(piston out)your fluid level in your resoivoir drops becausethe fluid volume is now in thecylinder. when cylinder is fully collapsed(piston in) the fluid fills back in the resoivoir which will always be when the resoirvoir is "fullest". if u dident have any vent the resoivoir would go into a vacume when cylinder is extended and wouldgo into a positive when cylinder is collapsed (talking about the air space in the resovoir). on a double ended ram as the piston collapses on one side it extends on the other so theram actually holds close to the same amount of volume at all points of stroke except at full lock both ways and even then it dosent change drastically. so the fluid in the resoivoir dosent move up and down as drastically, so the air gap between fluid level and cap dosent change as much. you still have some movement and as mentioned expansion as fluid gets warmer. single ended could get by with a bellows but it would have to be huge..never seen one big enuff. im sure if u had one and did lock to lock it would look quite vulgar :) a lot of rigs that dont think they are vented with a single ended ram actually have some leakage in the cap or resorvoir(thereby are indeed"vented") __________________ my next rig will be on the trail before zuk 2.0 will