SAS S10 or Ranger

hotrod · 12-06-2009, 09:56 AM

Im thinkin about selling/trading the sammi for an s10 or ranger. If i did i would eventually want to have a solid axle up front. What do guys use for these swaps? I dont really want to go full size axles bc id still want it streetable. I can prolly get my hands on a set of scout 44s and was thinking that would be a good start? If not, what do other people use? Thanks!

Coppertop · 12-06-2009, 10:24 AM

Since I'm a ford guy my vote is Ranger... The rangers look good lifted and seem to be a good platform to work from. I'm not up on all the tricks of the wheeling trade for the ranger.
To busy doing the jeep cherokee thang.

Good luck

Nick

Go Bengals! WHO-DEY!!!

hotrod · 12-06-2009, 10:42 AM

I have no brand loyalty, all the car companies are in bed together anymore anyway so there all the same to me. I grew up give me chevy or give me death, and imports suck lol. Look at me now, my DD is a Ford and my toy is an import lol Im just going to do whatever i get the best deal on i guess. I saw a ranger on here for sale that looks pretty killer, nothin special, just looks clean. He wants like $1300 for it now or trade for sammi, but my samurai is worth more than $1300.

Nuts · 12-06-2009, 10:45 AM

I'd say trade the guy with the ranger if the sammy is streetable and has a title

I'm selling it because I need something with a back seat.X-mas shoping with 2 kids in a ranger SUCKS!!!!

hotrod · 12-06-2009, 11:03 AM

sammy is streetable and has a title, but the top and back seat are now MIA due to the cage that is getting installed as we speak.

sarge · 12-06-2009, 12:31 PM

I have been doing tons of research on SAS on S-10/S-15 for the last several months getting ready for a project ...... **** I gave away a hint !!!

Front axle choice on the late model GM's is going to be Drivers drop,
Dana 30 jeep
Dana 44 jeep , scout , ford , late model dodge
Dana 60 ford or Late model dodge

I have a 79 ford F-250 dana 44 / dana 60 set getting ready to be slung under mine , I'm going for around 35"-37" tires on a streetable but fun trail rider.

Alot of guys are going Dana 30 / 8.8 to keep the bolt patterns the same .

JasonCJ7 · 12-07-2009, 10:25 PM

I have an 03 Ranger Ext Cab with the 4.0 auto and factory 4.10 gears I may be willing to sell.

All you need to find is a Dana 30 from a 4 cylinder wrangler which should have the 4.10 gears also.

hotrod · 12-07-2009, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JasonCJ7

I have an 03 Ranger Ext Cab with the 4.0 auto and factory 4.10 gears I may be willing to sell.

All you need to find is a Dana 30 from a 4 cylinder wrangler which should have the 4.10 gears also.

that would be awesome, the only thing is you would prolly want a lot more for it than what i would have. all i would have would be what i get out of the samurai :(

WrenchMonkey · 12-08-2009, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonCJ7

All you need to find is a Dana 30 from a 4 cylinder wrangler which should have the 4.10 gears also.

The TJ's were all low-pinion, weren't they?

The XJ's were high pinion through 99.

For that matter (shameless XJ plug) why start with IFS to begin with?

Do you need the open bed? For the work and money you'll have in it, you could build a helluvan XJ.

Hell, search hard enough, and there are still decent 'Manches out there!

Robert

sarge · 12-08-2009, 10:11 AM

the big down fall of the XJ is lack of a frame !! nuff said

JasonCJ7 · 12-08-2009, 10:32 AM

It has been a great truck, and has towed my Jeep and trailer easily, just need a bigger truck for the family.

Want any more info let me know.

94Dodge Truggy · 12-08-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JasonCJ7

It has been a great truck, and has towed my Jeep and trailer easily, just need a bigger truck for the family.

Want any more info let me know.

He may trade you the Samurai for this. The ranger would make a great truggy!

hotrod · 12-08-2009, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonCJ7

It has been a great truck, and has towed my Jeep and trailer easily, just need a bigger truck for the family.

Want any more info let me know.

Sammy isnt even close to being worth that kind of money, id never get that kind of money together, thanks tho, im sure its a great truck!

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrenchMonkey

The TJ's were all low-pinion, weren't they?

The XJ's were high pinion through 99.

For that matter (shameless XJ plug) why start with IFS to begin with?

Do you need the open bed? For the work and money you'll have in it, you could build a helluvan XJ.

Hell, search hard enough, and there are still decent 'Manches out there!

Robert

I wanted a cherokee to start with before i even bought the sammy, just everyone i talked to with a cherokee didnt give me the time of day. id still love to have one, i think they look killer!

I just think trucks are cool, dont need the bed space, just look cool.

Maybe a noob questin but wtf is a 'Manch? or am i just not saying it right and dont recoginze it? lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarge

the big down fall of the XJ is lack of a frame !! nuff said

I know a guy that bought a kit to connect it all underneeth to make a "frame." un-unibody anyway, seems to be rock solid.

Hope Springs Hauler · 12-08-2009, 07:14 PM

'Manche = Jeep Commanche Pickup (XJ plus frame minus backseat and extra roof)

jfiscus · 12-08-2009, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrenchMonkey

The TJ's were all low-pinion, weren't they?

The XJ's were high pinion through 99.

For that matter (shameless XJ plug) why start with IFS to begin with?

Do you need the open bed? For the work and money you'll have in it, you could build a helluvan XJ.

Hell, search hard enough, and there are still decent 'Manches out there!

Robert

Building on this info, why not buy a comanche??? They DO have a frame from the cab back unlike a cherokee if that is a worry to you. Already a solid axle D30 under the front and an 8.8 for the rear is just a junkyard away. 95% of ann parts are compatible with XJs; so parts are cheap and plentiful.

Wrangler X · 12-09-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hotrod

Im thinkin about selling/trading the sammi for an s10 or ranger. If i did i would eventually want to have a solid axle up front. What do guys use for these swaps? I dont really want to go full size axles bc id still want it streetable. I can prolly get my hands on a set of scout 44s and was thinking that would be a good start? If not, what do other people use? Thanks!

S10extremist.org is an s10/s15 website they have a whole section dealing with SAS. So they can tell you what you need to know, heck they even have plans for the crossmember for the front leaf spring mount. Check it out.

hotrod · 12-09-2009, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrangler X

S10extremist.org is an s10/s15 website they have a whole section dealing with SAS. So they can tell you what you need to know, heck they even have plans for the crossmember for the front leaf spring mount. Check it out.

right on, thanks man!

itbrokeagain · 12-09-2009, 07:57 PM

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12-06-2009, 09:56 AM	#1
hotrod Diesel guy Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bridgetown Posts: 241	SAS S10 or Ranger Im thinkin about selling/trading the sammi for an s10 or ranger. If i did i would eventually want to have a solid axle up front. What do guys use for these swaps? I dont really want to go full size axles bc id still want it streetable. I can prolly get my hands on a set of scout 44s and was thinking that would be a good start? If not, what do other people use? Thanks! __________________ 2013 RZR S Last edited by hotrod; 12-06-2009 at 11:10 AM.

12-06-2009, 10:24 AM	#2
Coppertop XJWHEELING Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Colerain Township Posts: 837	Since I'm a ford guy my vote is Ranger... The rangers look good lifted and seem to be a good platform to work from. I'm not up on all the tricks of the wheeling trade for the ranger. To busy doing the jeep cherokee thang. Good luck Nick Go Bengals! WHO-DEY!!! __________________ Just a 200 dollar cherokee that wouldn't start .. Ten years later same chrome grille ..

12-06-2009, 10:42 AM	#3
hotrod Diesel guy Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bridgetown Posts: 241	I have no brand loyalty, all the car companies are in bed together anymore anyway so there all the same to me. I grew up give me chevy or give me death, and imports suck lol. Look at me now, my DD is a Ford and my toy is an import lol Im just going to do whatever i get the best deal on i guess. I saw a ranger on here for sale that looks pretty killer, nothin special, just looks clean. He wants like $1300 for it now or trade for sammi, but my samurai is worth more than $1300. __________________ 2013 RZR S

12-06-2009, 11:03 AM	#5
hotrod Diesel guy Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bridgetown Posts: 241	sammy is streetable and has a title, but the top and back seat are now MIA due to the cage that is getting installed as we speak. __________________ 2013 RZR S

12-07-2009, 10:25 PM	#7
JasonCJ7 Throttle Jockey Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Liberty Twp., Ohio Posts: 182	I have an 03 Ranger Ext Cab with the 4.0 auto and factory 4.10 gears I may be willing to sell. All you need to find is a Dana 30 from a 4 cylinder wrangler which should have the 4.10 gears also. __________________ 78 CJ-7, 350 V8, T-18a Tranny, Twin Stick Dana 300, Scout 44's, 4.27 Gears, 36" TSL's, Welded rear and Full Spool Front, Hi-Steer with GM Knuckles

12-06-2009, 10:45 AM	#4
Nuts Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: middletown,oh Posts: 508	I'd say trade the guy with the ranger if the sammy is streetable and has a title I'm selling it because I need something with a back seat.X-mas shoping with 2 kids in a ranger SUCKS!!!!

12-06-2009, 12:31 PM	#6
sarge Pure Bacon Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trenton, Oh Posts: 1,098	I have been doing tons of research on SAS on S-10/S-15 for the last several months getting ready for a project ...... **** I gave away a hint !!! Front axle choice on the late model GM's is going to be Drivers drop, Dana 30 jeep Dana 44 jeep , scout , ford , late model dodge Dana 60 ford or Late model dodge I have a 79 ford F-250 dana 44 / dana 60 set getting ready to be slung under mine , I'm going for around 35"-37" tires on a streetable but fun trail rider. Alot of guys are going Dana 30 / 8.8 to keep the bolt patterns the same .

12-08-2009, 10:11 AM	#10
sarge Pure Bacon Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trenton, Oh Posts: 1,098	the big down fall of the XJ is lack of a frame !! nuff said

12-08-2009, 10:32 AM	#11
JasonCJ7 Throttle Jockey Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Liberty Twp., Ohio Posts: 182	It has been a great truck, and has towed my Jeep and trailer easily, just need a bigger truck for the family. Want any more info let me know. __________________ 78 CJ-7, 350 V8, T-18a Tranny, Twin Stick Dana 300, Scout 44's, 4.27 Gears, 36" TSL's, Welded rear and Full Spool Front, Hi-Steer with GM Knuckles Last edited by JasonCJ7; 12-14-2009 at 09:06 PM.

12-08-2009, 07:14 PM	#14
Hope Springs Hauler Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 431 Images: 16	'Manche = Jeep Commanche Pickup (XJ plus frame minus backseat and extra roof) __________________ 1988 Suzuki Samurai on propane FJ 40 axles (4.10) 5.14 tcase 36" TSL SX

12-09-2009, 07:57 PM	#18
itbrokeagain Just Empty Every Pocket - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Amelia Posts: 1,435	Do it right. By a Ford Raptor and be done