solid trackbar upgrade

mossyoaktj · 09-08-2010, 02:11 PM

i found this just searching around like usual and i didnt recall seeing neone running this set up for the track bar. its a solid way to help prevent that unwanted death wobble that we all kno n love. so id thought id share. its a track bar kit from clayton that gets rid of of the weak joint on the frame side.

http://claytonoffroad.com/product_in...64e6b6372eec6c

BIGRAM · 09-09-2010, 01:33 AM

When I broke the stock bar on my Ram, I decided I did not need the curve around the diff so I went solid. Before it would wobble at about 35 mph, after I could drive it 70 down the interstate with no issues on 39.5" IROKS. Of course that's before welding the rear.

I would suggest it to anyone if they have the clearance for a straight bar.

mossyoaktj · 09-09-2010, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BIGRAM

When I broke the stock bar on my Ram, I decided I did not need the curve around the diff so I went solid. Before it would wobble at about 35 mph, after I could drive it 70 down the interstate with no issues on 39.5" IROKS. Of course that's before welding the rear.

I would suggest it to anyone if they have the clearance for a straight bar.

do you have any clearnace issues at full stuff

KennyTJ · 09-09-2010, 11:45 AM

Yea, a lot of manufactureers have gone to the bracket to rotate the mounting of the Hiem joint to horizontal vs. verticle. The factory used a tie rod end, so the verticle mount made sence, but a heim joint wears out quickly in that position, my RE sure did! Rubicon Express, X-Factor, Rough Country... you get the point all offer a bracket with thier front trackbar now.

mossyoaktj · 09-09-2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KennyTJ

Yea, a lot of manufactureers have gone to the bracket to rotate the mounting of the Hiem joint to horizontal vs. verticle. The factory used a tie rod end, so the verticle mount made sence, but a heim joint wears out quickly in that position, my RE sure did! Rubicon Express, X-Factor, Rough Country... you get the point all offer a bracket with thier front trackbar now.

what makes the heim joint wear so fast in that location?

i want to get something will be a good upgrade and help to control death wobble, the jeep was getting death wobble on a regular basis when i was last home, i made a few adjustments to cover it up some so this winter when i get back im upgrading the whole the steering system. would the clayton track bar still be a better option over factory

with the RE track bar do you not need to use the drop bracket on the axle side like you do with the oem track bar and does go the same with all aftermarket hd track bars?

mossyoaktj · 09-09-2010, 12:13 PM

ok so looking at the rough country track bar. its a more than hundred less htan the clayton. i kno the phrase "you get what you pay for" but is there honestly goin to be any quality difference in the two. i notice the mounts are different, the clayton bolt to the factory mount and also welds the frame where the rough country mounts by drilling and putting bolts throught the frame, and i would honestly add welds to help strengthen it up more

KennyTJ · 09-09-2010, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mossyoaktj

what makes the heim joint wear so fast in that location?

i want to get something will be a good upgrade and help to control death wobble, the jeep was getting death wobble on a regular basis when i was last home, i made a few adjustments to cover it up some so this winter when i get back im upgrading the whole the steering system. would the clayton track bar still be a better option over factory

with the RE track bar do you not need to use the drop bracket on the axle side like you do with the oem track bar and does go the same with all aftermarket hd track bars?

I have an RE and if you mount the Heim joint in a horizontal position (i.e. the factory mount) the joint is flexing to the sides when the suspension travels up and down, this wears the joint fast. I have had min a year and it's wore out. If you mount it vertically you are simply spinning around the ball side of the joint as the suspension moves, and the hiem will last forever. The Rubican Express is a good trackbar but get the extra bracket. If you can weld get a bracket from Ballistic Fab or Ruffstuff it'll cost like $20-$30 less than half what RE wants!

I will most likely make mine.

BIGRAM · 09-09-2010, 11:52 AM

None at all, it does great. I can't say I've taken it easy either.

I used one existing rod end with about 4 inches of the original rod. My machinist didn't have left handed threads the size I needed so we milled down the shaft, slid on the ends, and welded in place. And for a nice, smooth look we milled the welds back down.

Been over a year ago and I'm still pleased.

09-08-2010, 02:11 PM	#1
mossyoaktj Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: moscow,ohio Posts: 245	solid trackbar upgrade i found this just searching around like usual and i didnt recall seeing neone running this set up for the track bar. its a solid way to help prevent that unwanted death wobble that we all kno n love. so id thought id share. its a track bar kit from clayton that gets rid of of the weak joint on the frame side. http://claytonoffroad.com/product_in...64e6b6372eec6c __________________ UNITED STATES MARINE 99 TJ, locked, long armed, creepy's

09-09-2010, 01:33 AM	#2
BIGRAM Ready to Wheel!!!!!!! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Stanton, KY Posts: 263	When I broke the stock bar on my Ram, I decided I did not need the curve around the diff so I went solid. Before it would wobble at about 35 mph, after I could drive it 70 down the interstate with no issues on 39.5" IROKS. Of course that's before welding the rear. I would suggest it to anyone if they have the clearance for a straight bar. Attached Thumbnails __________________ 1994 Dodge Ram 5.9L SWB 3/4 axles, 39.5 IROKS, HYDRO assist

09-09-2010, 12:13 PM	#6
mossyoaktj Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: moscow,ohio Posts: 245	ok so looking at the rough country track bar. its a more than hundred less htan the clayton. i kno the phrase "you get what you pay for" but is there honestly goin to be any quality difference in the two. i notice the mounts are different, the clayton bolt to the factory mount and also welds the frame where the rough country mounts by drilling and putting bolts throught the frame, and i would honestly add welds to help strengthen it up more __________________ UNITED STATES MARINE 99 TJ, locked, long armed, creepy's

09-09-2010, 11:52 AM	#8
BIGRAM Ready to Wheel!!!!!!! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Stanton, KY Posts: 263	None at all, it does great. I can't say I've taken it easy either. I used one existing rod end with about 4 inches of the original rod. My machinist didn't have left handed threads the size I needed so we milled down the shaft, slid on the ends, and welded in place. And for a nice, smooth look we milled the welds back down. Been over a year ago and I'm still pleased. __________________ 1994 Dodge Ram 5.9L SWB 3/4 axles, 39.5 IROKS, HYDRO assist

09-09-2010, 11:45 AM	#4
KennyTJ The Pirate Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lebanon, Oh. Posts: 297	Yea, a lot of manufactureers have gone to the bracket to rotate the mounting of the Hiem joint to horizontal vs. verticle. The factory used a tie rod end, so the verticle mount made sence, but a heim joint wears out quickly in that position, my RE sure did! Rubicon Express, X-Factor, Rough Country... you get the point all offer a bracket with thier front trackbar now.