Yota axles questions

67fastback · 03-04-2011, 03:33 AM

Ok, I have maxed out my sami axles and I keep braking stuff...
specs:
5.38 gears
lockers front and rear
chromoly birfs
calmini hd rear axles
disco brakes in rear
4.1 tcase gears
on 9.50x16 ag tires.

now looking around it seems that the 85 yota axles 4.10 are the ones to find and get for a new swap out.

what is the most bang for my buck to upgrade on the yota axles to get something close to what i was running with the sami axles?
5.29 gears?
chromoly axles and birfs?
weld rear and detroit locker front? pro/cons ?
trail gear lockout coversion?
6 shooters?

oh yeah still running tracker p/s with mod pump and cooler.

Any issues that some one can see that I will need to swap some thing out for the steering (full hydro but not in the budget yet...), braking,etc...

hotrod · 03-04-2011, 09:20 AM

wonder if you were thinking of selling the sami axles :confused:;)

yellowjacket · 03-04-2011, 10:33 AM

Im by no means a yota guru, but I had built toy axles in my rear engine moon buggy, and had a lockrite in front that caused me headaches, so I would steer clear and stick with the detroight idea..

Haddix505 · 03-04-2011, 11:53 AM

Yea lockrites are junk. I got a yukon grisly and it works great. And for axels, longfields are the the best. I run 39.5 tires and Ibeat the hell out of it and NEVER broke a axel or had any problems out of locker.

gothodgie · 03-04-2011, 01:06 PM

Sorry to hear you guys have had bad luck with lockrites... I agree the suck in the front, but i have run them in the rear of every Landcruiser i have ever had... The longfeilds are about the only thing i would put up front for an axle upgade, the warranty is the best you will find...

If you want to find more info on the Yota stuff look on IH8Dmud.com ... Here is a link to the Yota mini truck section http://forum.ih8mud.com/79-95-toyota-truck-tech/...

CJsOffRoad · 03-04-2011, 01:17 PM

Longfields are the only axle to run. I run 38 sx's and never had any problems. I'm not easy on them either.

67fastback · 03-05-2011, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotrod

wonder if you were thinking of selling the sami axles :confused:;)

I have a set that with a little work, would get under that sami quickly...
4.62 gears, locked front spool? welded rear, rear disco setup with anti wrap (tractor supply) bar.
need one chromoly and hub ( locker bolts sheared off) maybe brake pads or calipers on front not sure I took this apart when i need parts for splattt..

67fastback · 03-05-2011, 06:08 AM

also are the stock yota's
27 spline or 30 spline, I did see the
longfields- 645.00 vs the dirty 30 - 579.00
they both seem to be made from same material not much a price difference..
so most say go with the longfields!!

are the creaper flanges a good upgrade? pros/cons?
http://www.trail-gear.com/hubs-and-drive-flanges

they seem like they would be..

Nuts · 03-05-2011, 10:33 AM

Phil I just bought 30 splines because of the halloween trip where I brkoe 2 stock inners, so my chromo 27 spline longs are for sale with good inner shafts, $200 for both. With the short tire you have you won't break an inner 27 spline

edit: the one weakness yota axles have is TECHNO music, its something about the crappy repetitive beat that causes them to fail...

67fastback · 03-05-2011, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuts

Phil I just bought 30 splines because of the halloween trip where I brkoe 2 stock inners, so my chromo 27 spline longs are for sale with good inner shafts, $200 for both. With the short tire you have you won't break an inner 27 spline

edit: the one weakness yota axles have is TECHNO music, its something about the crappy repetitive beat that causes them to fail...

at least it is not a tunnel flip fire burn... so the stock yota are 27 spline then not 30... but if i put a spartin locker in them the would fix the the 30 spline swap right? I might want to go bigger tires too down the road...so im leaning towards 30 spline just going to build then tuff as hell so i quiet braking crap...

yeah right!

hotrod · 03-06-2011, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67fastback

I have a set that with a little work, would get under that sami quickly...
4.62 gears, locked front spool? welded rear, rear disco setup with anti wrap (tractor supply) bar.
need one chromoly and hub ( locker bolts sheared off) maybe brake pads or calipers on front not sure I took this apart when i need parts for splattt..

how much? you can pm me or 513-969-4846 i work 3rd shrft

67fastback · 03-08-2011, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotrod

how much? you can pm me or 513-969-4846 i work 3rd shrft

pm sent!

03-04-2011, 03:33 AM	#1
67fastback Splattt- you want some Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mason,Oh Posts: 692	Yota axles questions Ok, I have maxed out my sami axles and I keep braking stuff... specs: 5.38 gears lockers front and rear chromoly birfs calmini hd rear axles disco brakes in rear 4.1 tcase gears on 9.50x16 ag tires. now looking around it seems that the 85 yota axles 4.10 are the ones to find and get for a new swap out. what is the most bang for my buck to upgrade on the yota axles to get something close to what i was running with the sami axles? 5.29 gears? chromoly axles and birfs? weld rear and detroit locker front? pro/cons ? trail gear lockout coversion? 6 shooters? oh yeah still running tracker p/s with mod pump and cooler. Any issues that some one can see that I will need to swap some thing out for the steering (full hydro but not in the budget yet...), braking,etc... __________________ Thanks, 67fastback ------------- 84 Honda cr60r - for sale 87 Honda 200sx - for sale 67 Mustang fastback - under restoration MCA #63430 04 Silverado 2500 crew cab 87 sami - "SPLAT" 87 sami tin top - "Blue Fire" 88 sami - "Squirt" My New Video Channel -http://www.youtube.com/PhillbillyProduction My Video Channel - http://www.youtube.com/justworkn

03-04-2011, 09:20 AM	#2
hotrod Diesel guy Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Bridgetown Posts: 241	wonder if you were thinking of selling the sami axles :confused:;) __________________ 2013 RZR S

03-04-2011, 10:33 AM	#3
yellowjacket barely breathing Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: alexandria, ky Posts: 889	Im by no means a yota guru, but I had built toy axles in my rear engine moon buggy, and had a lockrite in front that caused me headaches, so I would steer clear and stick with the detroight idea.. __________________ my next rig will be on the trail before zuk 2.0 will

03-04-2011, 11:53 AM	#4
Haddix505 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bethel,oh Posts: 134	Yea lockrites are junk. I got a yukon grisly and it works great. And for axels, longfields are the the best. I run 39.5 tires and Ibeat the hell out of it and NEVER broke a axel or had any problems out of locker. __________________ Jeeps are cute. Barbe drives one.

03-04-2011, 01:06 PM	#5
gothodgie Join Date: May 2009 Location: loveland Posts: 843 Images: 49	Sorry to hear you guys have had bad luck with lockrites... I agree the suck in the front, but i have run them in the rear of every Landcruiser i have ever had... The longfeilds are about the only thing i would put up front for an axle upgade, the warranty is the best you will find... If you want to find more info on the Yota stuff look on IH8Dmud.com ... Here is a link to the Yota mini truck section http://forum.ih8mud.com/79-95-toyota-truck-tech/... __________________ chris hodges 96 fzj80 3x locked, 4"lift, 37s, homebrew sliders and bumpers,a work in progress 71 fj55, SOA, locked...The jungle bus... retired

03-04-2011, 01:17 PM	#6
CJsOffRoad Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Eaton, Oh Posts: 28	Longfields are the only axle to run. I run 38 sx's and never had any problems. I'm not easy on them either. __________________ Willys buggy 4.3, 350 trans, toy axles, linked suspension, air shocks

03-05-2011, 06:08 AM	#8
67fastback Splattt- you want some Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mason,Oh Posts: 692	also are the stock yota's 27 spline or 30 spline, I did see the longfields- 645.00 vs the dirty 30 - 579.00 they both seem to be made from same material not much a price difference.. so most say go with the longfields!! are the creaper flanges a good upgrade? pros/cons? http://www.trail-gear.com/hubs-and-drive-flanges they seem like they would be.. __________________ Thanks, 67fastback ------------- 84 Honda cr60r - for sale 87 Honda 200sx - for sale 67 Mustang fastback - under restoration MCA #63430 04 Silverado 2500 crew cab 87 sami - "SPLAT" 87 sami tin top - "Blue Fire" 88 sami - "Squirt" My New Video Channel -http://www.youtube.com/PhillbillyProduction My Video Channel - http://www.youtube.com/justworkn

03-05-2011, 10:33 AM	#9
Nuts Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: middletown,oh Posts: 508	Phil I just bought 30 splines because of the halloween trip where I brkoe 2 stock inners, so my chromo 27 spline longs are for sale with good inner shafts, $200 for both. With the short tire you have you won't break an inner 27 spline edit: the one weakness yota axles have is TECHNO music, its something about the crappy repetitive beat that causes them to fail...