axle narrowing

dan · 02-13-2008, 03:16 AM

well im going to replace the d35 in my tj and put a d60 in but i know the 60 will need to be narrowed so my question is who does this and how much will it hurt my wallet any answers would be greatly appreciated

jfiscus · 02-13-2008, 09:33 AM

It would be easier to just go ahead and replace the front end then it would be to have a 60 narrowed.
Plus with a special width axle you would also have to get extra "custom"" shafts to match it.

94Dodge Truggy · 02-13-2008, 09:41 AM

Why not run a custom offset rim?

Bear Chow · 02-13-2008, 10:44 AM

Go full width with offset rims.

Although narrowing a rear isn't as hard as it sounds. Cut the tubes and reweld or replace the tubes entirely. But you need to make sure they are level and square usually requiring a jig. Custom shafts will run between 300 and up per shaft. Do some searching and find the narrowest 60 OEM shaft make sure it's available and narrow the tubes to that length or you'll have to go custom shaft.

JeepHD · 02-13-2008, 11:08 AM

Unless you are ready to upgrade the front axle as well and buy 8 lug rims with larger tires, I would suggest looking for an Ford 8.8. Close to stock width with same 5 on 4.5 bolt pattern as stock.

I am running D60 rear in a YJ and with the backspacing of the H1 rims, it puts it back close to stock. I will actually be getting 2inch spacers to widen it some for stability and to match the width of the front

itbrokeagain · 02-14-2008, 01:21 AM

513 875 3327. He can cut your axle and re-spline your shafts.

dan · 02-14-2008, 02:41 AM

well im putting a rubicon d44 up front an dwas wanting to put a 60 in the rear but i might just get a d44 out of an redeo its real close to the same length as stock just wondering what it would cost tto do the 60 thanks for the info guys

blazerbrad · 02-14-2008, 10:11 AM

Why not a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer in the back. It would be a good match for the D44 front. They already have the right wheel bolt pattern, right width, disc brakes, and are stronger than a D44 (8.8" ring gear vs. 8.5", 31-spline shafts vs. 30-splines shafts, etc...). Plus they are easy to find and relatively cheap. The only downside is that if you are keeping the stock 4.10 Rubi gears the 8.8's with 4.10's are not real common.

Not trying to pimp a friend's parts, but I know a guy who should have a complete 8.8 for sale for $250.

sarge · 02-14-2008, 12:17 PM

Dan ,

Check around and price an 8.8 , I am also going to give it a bump ! finding one with a 4.10 is not to hard but you can normally find em fairly cheap. Theres a guy on pirate from Michigan that has a good connection for them and will find you one with what ever ratio you need. Just keep in mind there is no carrier break in an 8.8 so if you do find one that is not a 4.10 it's no big deal . mine had 3.73's in it and I got a set of used 4.10's off of jeepforum for $50.00 . If you get one give Carwash a call and have him order you a ruffstuff axle swap kit for it. Their parts are beef and priced right. You'll be able to beat your TJ with up to 37" meats on that 8.8 and not have to worry about it.

JeepHD · 02-14-2008, 01:05 PM

Also, I believe if you want to put a locker in, you need to find one without limited slip. I think the carriers are different for the limited slip setups compared to open.

blazerbrad · 02-14-2008, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeepHD

Also, I believe if you want to put a locker in, you need to find one without limited slip. I think the carriers are different for the limited slip setups compared to open.

I'm assuming you meant to say if you wanted to install a "drop-in" locker like a Lock-right or EZ-Locker?? Obviously the carrier is different between an open and limited slip version, but it doesn't matter if you are putting in a full carrier locker like a Detroit or ARB (unless there is something weird about the 8.8 I don't know about).

JeepHD · 02-14-2008, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazerbrad

I'm assuming you meant to say if you wanted to install a "drop-in" locker like a Lock-right or EZ-Locker?? Obviously the carrier is different between an open and limited slip version, but it doesn't matter if you are putting in a full carrier locker like a Detroit or ARB (unless there is something weird about the 8.8 I don't know about).

Yep, that is exactly what I was referring to. I didn't make that clear at all. I had a 8.8 in my YJ prior to the current swap and it was a limited slip, so I couldn't drop and Aussie it it.

dan · 02-15-2008, 03:01 AM

thanks alot guys i think i am going with the 8.8 just found one on the for sale forum so thats it, hey carwash if you could shoot me a price for the axle swap kit thanks

02-13-2008, 03:16 AM	#1
dan gotta love middletucky Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Middletown Posts: 106	axle narrowing well im going to replace the d35 in my tj and put a d60 in but i know the 60 will need to be narrowed so my question is who does this and how much will it hurt my wallet any answers would be greatly appreciated

02-13-2008, 11:08 AM	#5
JeepHD www.buckeyejeepers.com Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, OH 45333 Posts: 276	Unless you are ready to upgrade the front axle as well and buy 8 lug rims with larger tires, I would suggest looking for an Ford 8.8. Close to stock width with same 5 on 4.5 bolt pattern as stock. I am running D60 rear in a YJ and with the backspacing of the H1 rims, it puts it back close to stock. I will actually be getting 2inch spacers to widen it some for stability and to match the width of the front __________________ 1994 YJ, 4.0, 5 speed. *2006 Dodge 2500 Cummins, 4x4 Auto,Quad cab, LongBed, Tekonsha Prodigy(Tow Rig)

02-14-2008, 01:21 AM	#6
itbrokeagain Just Empty Every Pocket - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Amelia Posts: 1,435	513 875 3327. He can cut your axle and re-spline your shafts. __________________ 91 fj 80 on 37 Nitto Muds with a 10k winch. Cage and sliders coming soon.

02-14-2008, 01:05 PM	#10
JeepHD www.buckeyejeepers.com Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, OH 45333 Posts: 276	Also, I believe if you want to put a locker in, you need to find one without limited slip. I think the carriers are different for the limited slip setups compared to open. __________________ 1994 YJ, 4.0, 5 speed. *2006 Dodge 2500 Cummins, 4x4 Auto,Quad cab, LongBed, Tekonsha Prodigy(Tow Rig)

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02-13-2008, 09:33 AM	#2
jfiscus Terrain Stomper Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Crittenden, KY Posts: 633	It would be easier to just go ahead and replace the front end then it would be to have a 60 narrowed. Plus with a special width axle you would also have to get extra "custom"" shafts to match it.

02-13-2008, 09:41 AM	#3
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	Why not run a custom offset rim?

02-13-2008, 10:44 AM	#4
Bear Chow Jeepless Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oxford, Oh Posts: 302	Go full width with offset rims. Although narrowing a rear isn't as hard as it sounds. Cut the tubes and reweld or replace the tubes entirely. But you need to make sure they are level and square usually requiring a jig. Custom shafts will run between 300 and up per shaft. Do some searching and find the narrowest 60 OEM shaft make sure it's available and narrow the tubes to that length or you'll have to go custom shaft.

02-14-2008, 02:41 AM	#7
dan gotta love middletucky Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Middletown Posts: 106	well im putting a rubicon d44 up front an dwas wanting to put a 60 in the rear but i might just get a d44 out of an redeo its real close to the same length as stock just wondering what it would cost tto do the 60 thanks for the info guys

02-14-2008, 10:11 AM	#8
blazerbrad - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 831 Images: 6	Why not a Ford 8.8 out of an Explorer in the back. It would be a good match for the D44 front. They already have the right wheel bolt pattern, right width, disc brakes, and are stronger than a D44 (8.8" ring gear vs. 8.5", 31-spline shafts vs. 30-splines shafts, etc...). Plus they are easy to find and relatively cheap. The only downside is that if you are keeping the stock 4.10 Rubi gears the 8.8's with 4.10's are not real common. Not trying to pimp a friend's parts, but I know a guy who should have a complete 8.8 for sale for $250.

02-14-2008, 12:17 PM	#9
sarge Pure Bacon Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trenton, Oh Posts: 1,098	Dan , Check around and price an 8.8 , I am also going to give it a bump ! finding one with a 4.10 is not to hard but you can normally find em fairly cheap. Theres a guy on pirate from Michigan that has a good connection for them and will find you one with what ever ratio you need. Just keep in mind there is no carrier break in an 8.8 so if you do find one that is not a 4.10 it's no big deal . mine had 3.73's in it and I got a set of used 4.10's off of jeepforum for $50.00 . If you get one give Carwash a call and have him order you a ruffstuff axle swap kit for it. Their parts are beef and priced right. You'll be able to beat your TJ with up to 37" meats on that 8.8 and not have to worry about it.

02-15-2008, 03:01 AM	#13
dan gotta love middletucky Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Middletown Posts: 106	thanks alot guys i think i am going with the 8.8 just found one on the for sale forum so thats it, hey carwash if you could shoot me a price for the axle swap kit thanks