Axle Swap Complete

Hope Springs Hauler · 09-06-2009, 04:43 AM

I just finished my axle swap. The 8.8 is in. I used the stock yj leafs in a soa configuration, Russell brake lines and JKS quick disconnects. It rides like a dream rather than the log truck it used to be.

One question I have is:
what can I do for leaf springs that are as flexable and soft as the yj's but have additional support at the front eye. (I have noticed a bit of a bend) I cannot tolerate ANY additional height. I had thought about the RE 1.5 SOA springs, but I dont want or need the additional height. Does this leave me with getting custom springs like alcans?

94Dodge Truggy · 09-06-2009, 08:07 AM

Some spring packs have what is called a military wrap. It is an extra main spring that wraps around the front and rear bolt area. I have had big ****s and old man emu springs with this and worked well. Congrats and good luck!

WrenchMonkey · 09-06-2009, 12:31 PM

Were the leaves new? Is it possible they're just sagging a little, and new YJ springs would give you the ride, height, and arch you want?

Personally, I don't think I'd worry about a "bit of a bend," if it sat and rode right. I'd keep an eye on it to see if it got worse, but I'd just run it.

Good luck!

Robert

Hope Springs Hauler · 09-06-2009, 12:51 PM

No, the yj springs were not new. I like the ride height and I am going to run the springs, I was just wondering where to go when the inevitable happened.

94Dodge Truggy · 09-06-2009, 11:18 PM

Saw you on rt4 today! Looked good!

Hope Springs Hauler · 09-07-2009, 02:27 AM

If it looked good, then it rides even better. I had no idea how much of a buckboard wagon ride the ProComp rear springs were!

Can't wait to wheel it

JET455 · 09-07-2009, 11:52 AM

A stock wrangler springs will sag pretty good and even more over time in a SOA application. You can get alot of axle wrap. Best thing to is to add a full add a leaf that goes right under the main leaf to both end. Or take another set of wrangler springs and cut the eyes off the main leaf and add them to the pack. This will still ride nice and help with sag. But you most likey will still have axle wrap under a load so you might look into a traction bar.

itbrokeagain · 09-07-2009, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JET455

A stock wrangler springs will sag pretty good and even more over time in a SOA application. You can get alot of axle wrap. Best thing to is to add a full add a leaf that goes right under the main leaf to both end. Or take another set of wrangler springs and cut the eyes off the main leaf and add them to the pack. This will still ride nice and help with sag. But you most likey will still have axle wrap under a load so you might look into a traction bar.

Exactly what I had to do and it worked perfect.

Hope Springs Hauler · 09-07-2009, 03:00 PM

I forgot to mention that it does have a traction bar.

JET455 · 09-07-2009, 06:28 PM

Then do the extra leafs and you are done...

blazerbrad · 09-08-2009, 11:20 AM

An option is finding a local spring shop and having them make either just an extra leaf (should be able to do a military wrap). This should be cheaper than either buying an aftermarket spring pack for some pricey customer mail order stuff. A couple guys in our club have used a local spring shop (it's in Zanesville, so probably not a good choice for the Cincy crowd), but they have had good luck and prices are good.

94Dodge Truggy · 09-08-2009, 11:50 AM

Ready for WV this month?

Hope Springs Hauler · 09-08-2009, 01:41 PM

I need to do something about OBA and wire in the solenoids for the ARB.

Other than that, yes

jfiscus · 09-08-2009, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hope Springs Hauler

I need to do something about OBA and wire in the solenoids for the ARB.

Other than that, yes

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f27/h...ctures-378082/

94Dodge Truggy · 09-08-2009, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hope Springs Hauler

I need to do something about OBA and wire in the solenoids for the ARB.

Other than that, yes

When you getting my compressor?

Hope Springs Hauler · 09-08-2009, 02:42 PM

I'm thinking seriously about the ARB HO unit to start with until I get more time. Then I can transfer the ARB unit to the truck for other farm/roadside rescue duty.

With work being the way it is, I don't have a lot of time right now for evening projects. Come winter/spring it might be different.

Scott, your compressor should still be used; I guess I just need to get it off of you soon so you dont have to keep up with it

JeepHD · 09-08-2009, 03:43 PM

Springs sound like the same issue I had. Bent my front leaves and didn't want to go shackle reversal. I am running 2 inch BDS military wrap springs, but it is more lift than I want. I just hope I can beat them up enough to make the sag some.

HumminNBoatin · 09-10-2009, 10:20 AM

There is a spring shop in Fairfield. I think its on Seward Rd. They mainly work on commercial type vehicles but they will also work on 4x4s. I had some spring work done there on my old Durango. They were very reasonable as well.

67fastback · 09-11-2009, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HumminNBoatin

There is a spring shop in Fairfield. I think its on Seward Rd. They mainly work on commercial type vehicles but they will also work on 4x4s. I had some spring work done there on my old Durango. They were very reasonable as well.

you got a name or number by chance?

jfiscus · 09-11-2009, 08:18 AM

I think the name is Dushaun Spring, there also is a spring place right behind Whatever It Takes (trans parts shop) on 747.

itbrokeagain · 09-11-2009, 09:15 AM

Brighton spring over by Drews offroad.

sarge · 09-12-2009, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itbrokeagain

Brighton spring over by Drews offroad.

I have used them several times ! they will make custom packs for you . The guy I talked to about making a custom XJ pack said they out source the main eye spring but custom build all of the other leafs in house.

RuffedUpXJ · 09-12-2009, 11:47 AM

You know how much that would have run you Sarge?

sarge · 09-12-2009, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuffedUpXJ

You know how much that would have run you Sarge?

Nope , didn't get that far . SORRY

09-06-2009, 04:43 AM	#1
Hope Springs Hauler Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 431 Images: 16	Axle Swap Complete I just finished my axle swap. The 8.8 is in. I used the stock yj leafs in a soa configuration, Russell brake lines and JKS quick disconnects. It rides like a dream rather than the log truck it used to be. One question I have is: what can I do for leaf springs that are as flexable and soft as the yj's but have additional support at the front eye. (I have noticed a bit of a bend) I cannot tolerate ANY additional height. I had thought about the RE 1.5 SOA springs, but I dont want or need the additional height. Does this leave me with getting custom springs like alcans? __________________ 1988 Suzuki Samurai on propane FJ 40 axles (4.10) 5.14 tcase 36" TSL SX

09-06-2009, 08:07 AM	#2
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	Some spring packs have what is called a military wrap. It is an extra main spring that wraps around the front and rear bolt area. I have had big ****s and old man emu springs with this and worked well. Congrats and good luck! __________________

09-06-2009, 12:31 PM	#3
WrenchMonkey Mechanical Animal - CORE Member - - Moderator - Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Beechmont Posts: 1,883	Were the leaves new? Is it possible they're just sagging a little, and new YJ springs would give you the ride, height, and arch you want? Personally, I don't think I'd worry about a "bit of a bend," if it sat and rode right. I'd keep an eye on it to see if it got worse, but I'd just run it. Good luck! Robert __________________ DIRTY DEEDS, DONE DIRT CHEAP Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stranger

09-06-2009, 12:51 PM	#4
Hope Springs Hauler Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 431 Images: 16	No, the yj springs were not new. I like the ride height and I am going to run the springs, I was just wondering where to go when the inevitable happened. __________________ 1988 Suzuki Samurai on propane FJ 40 axles (4.10) 5.14 tcase 36" TSL SX

09-06-2009, 11:18 PM	#5
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	Saw you on rt4 today! Looked good! __________________

09-07-2009, 02:27 AM	#6
Hope Springs Hauler Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 431 Images: 16	If it looked good, then it rides even better. I had no idea how much of a buckboard wagon ride the ProComp rear springs were! Can't wait to wheel it __________________ 1988 Suzuki Samurai on propane FJ 40 axles (4.10) 5.14 tcase 36" TSL SX

09-07-2009, 11:52 AM	#7
JET455 Your wifes pimp! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Everywhere!!!!!! Posts: 548	A stock wrangler springs will sag pretty good and even more over time in a SOA application. You can get alot of axle wrap. Best thing to is to add a full add a leaf that goes right under the main leaf to both end. Or take another set of wrangler springs and cut the eyes off the main leaf and add them to the pack. This will still ride nice and help with sag. But you most likey will still have axle wrap under a load so you might look into a traction bar. __________________ if i am not currently offending you, i will be shortly.

09-07-2009, 03:00 PM	#9
Hope Springs Hauler Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 431 Images: 16	I forgot to mention that it does have a traction bar. Attached Images __________________ 1988 Suzuki Samurai on propane FJ 40 axles (4.10) 5.14 tcase 36" TSL SX

09-07-2009, 06:28 PM	#10
JET455 Your wifes pimp! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Everywhere!!!!!! Posts: 548	Then do the extra leafs and you are done... __________________ if i am not currently offending you, i will be shortly.

09-08-2009, 11:20 AM	#11
blazerbrad - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 831 Images: 6	An option is finding a local spring shop and having them make either just an extra leaf (should be able to do a military wrap). This should be cheaper than either buying an aftermarket spring pack for some pricey customer mail order stuff. A couple guys in our club have used a local spring shop (it's in Zanesville, so probably not a good choice for the Cincy crowd), but they have had good luck and prices are good.

09-08-2009, 11:50 AM	#12
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	Ready for WV this month? __________________

09-08-2009, 01:41 PM	#13
Hope Springs Hauler Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 431 Images: 16	I need to do something about OBA and wire in the solenoids for the ARB. Other than that, yes __________________ 1988 Suzuki Samurai on propane FJ 40 axles (4.10) 5.14 tcase 36" TSL SX

09-08-2009, 02:42 PM	#16
Hope Springs Hauler Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 431 Images: 16	I'm thinking seriously about the ARB HO unit to start with until I get more time. Then I can transfer the ARB unit to the truck for other farm/roadside rescue duty. With work being the way it is, I don't have a lot of time right now for evening projects. Come winter/spring it might be different. Scott, your compressor should still be used; I guess I just need to get it off of you soon so you dont have to keep up with it __________________ 1988 Suzuki Samurai on propane FJ 40 axles (4.10) 5.14 tcase 36" TSL SX

09-08-2009, 03:43 PM	#17
JeepHD www.buckeyejeepers.com Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, OH 45333 Posts: 276	Springs sound like the same issue I had. Bent my front leaves and didn't want to go shackle reversal. I am running 2 inch BDS military wrap springs, but it is more lift than I want. I just hope I can beat them up enough to make the sag some. __________________ 1994 YJ, 4.0, 5 speed. *2006 Dodge 2500 Cummins, 4x4 Auto,Quad cab, LongBed, Tekonsha Prodigy(Tow Rig)

09-10-2009, 10:20 AM	#18
HumminNBoatin Like Nothing Else Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Mason, OH Posts: 109	There is a spring shop in Fairfield. I think its on Seward Rd. They mainly work on commercial type vehicles but they will also work on 4x4s. I had some spring work done there on my old Durango. They were very reasonable as well. __________________ The Hummer Club Inc. Director - Events Planning/Ambassador Program Eric@TheHummerClubInc.com www.thehummerclubinc.com

09-11-2009, 08:18 AM	#20
jfiscus Terrain Stomper Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Crittenden, KY Posts: 633	I think the name is Dushaun Spring, there also is a spring place right behind Whatever It Takes (trans parts shop) on 747.

09-11-2009, 09:15 AM	#21
itbrokeagain Just Empty Every Pocket - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Amelia Posts: 1,435	Brighton spring over by Drews offroad. __________________ 91 fj 80 on 37 Nitto Muds with a 10k winch. Cage and sliders coming soon.

09-12-2009, 11:47 AM	#23
RuffedUpXJ On XJ 2 Now Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield Twp. Posts: 314	You know how much that would have run you Sarge? __________________ 88 XJ - 5" lift - 35" BFG's - Bumpers - Rock Rails - Homebrewed OBA - Roof Rack - Tube Doors - Trimmed - Dented 87 XJ - D44 - Disco D30 - 235's - 231TC - Stock for now

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