Go Back   C.O.R.E. FORUM > Campfire > Tech and How-To
Gallery FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-15-2009, 11:31 PM   #1
94Dodge Truggy
EX-Vice President
 
94Dodge Truggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Fairfield, Ohio
Posts: 3,048
Send a message via MSN to 94Dodge Truggy
hydro steering runout

I am running an older danfoss orbital valve connected to the end of my steering shaft where the original steering box used to be. It is utilizing the original power steering pump and I have a single ended ram to turn the wheels. It is easy to steer but hard to keep straight. I have to constantly correct the steering to keep it straight. Has anyone ran a full hydro setup for onroad use with good success? Wondering if a double ended ram is necessary and if I should try another orbital valve. Any ideas?
__________________
94Dodge Truggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2009, 12:52 AM   #2
superjeep
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 88
there is a difference the same as steering gear boxes as far as ratio.

we had toyota fork lifts that steered too quick at high speed but our hyster did not have this problem.

they are the same set up. Find a fork lift guy to talk to to see what the ratio of yours is.

just my opinion of what I have incountered.

Shawn
superjeep is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2009, 02:30 PM   #3
KargoMaster
Cleaning off the rust...
 
KargoMaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 1,009
With the unbalanced (single ended ram) system, you can't really have a return to center hydrostatic steering unit... (aka: orbital valve) but with a balanced system (double ended ram or two opposing singles) you could look into the return to center system, which also would give you more feedback from the road/rocks... I think that is often what is missing for folks too, just some sort of feedback...

my $.02
__________________
brad

5.0L | 435 | 203 | 300 | 4.10 | 39.5
Buildup BACK underway...


http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b234/KargoMaster/KargoSigPic-Summer.jpg
KargoMaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2009, 11:02 AM   #4
94Dodge Truggy
EX-Vice President
 
94Dodge Truggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Fairfield, Ohio
Posts: 3,048
Send a message via MSN to 94Dodge Truggy
I think I am going to set the tj up just like the black yj with hydro assist. Looking at redneck ram, psc and howe kits now.
__________________
94Dodge Truggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2009, 11:50 AM   #5
yellowjacket
barely breathing
 
yellowjacket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: alexandria, ky
Posts: 889
IF your scu is load reactive and IF your caster is set up correct, you should be able to let off the wheel after a turn and the steering will self center, just like with mechanical linkage. if you have a non load reactive scu, it will "lock" in place whearever you take your hands off the wheel, regardless of caster. also, non load reactive will not provide the steering "feel", like when your up against a rock, you may not know it strictly by the steering feedback.
i hate non loadreactive scu's because of the return to center problem you described, and cause its so easy to break stuff since your just turning the wheel, unaware that your front is pinched between rocks.

i never had a problem with a single ended ram in the past, but i put a lot of effort into matching up the components. currently running a psc double ended ram, though for different reasons. sorry im not more help

hows your caster?

Last edited by yellowjacket; 07-19-2009 at 11:56 AM.
yellowjacket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2009, 12:13 PM   #6
JeffK5
Tiny Member
 
JeffK5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Colerain
Posts: 798
If your looking for assist stuff I have...

NEW-2wd AGR Sag. style steering box and new high flow AGR pump new lines and new double ended Surplus Center ram. I'm selling because I'm going with a full hydro POS deal on my money pit.

I ran a duplicate of this set-up on my old K5 and it worked great ... don't let people tell you that assist and double ended rams are a crazy idea...very good balance

Jeff
JeffK5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2009, 08:36 AM   #7
94Dodge Truggy
EX-Vice President
 
94Dodge Truggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Fairfield, Ohio
Posts: 3,048
Send a message via MSN to 94Dodge Truggy
Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffK5 View Post
If your looking for assist stuff I have...

NEW-2wd AGR Sag. style steering box and new high flow AGR pump new lines and new double ended Surplus Center ram. I'm selling because I'm going with a full hydro POS deal on my money pit.

I ran a duplicate of this set-up on my old K5 and it worked great ... don't let people tell you that assist and double ended rams are a crazy idea...very good balance

Jeff
How much? Lines included? Box bolt up to tj frame location and splines same? Thanks, Scott
__________________
94Dodge Truggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2009, 11:21 PM   #8
JeffK5
Tiny Member
 
JeffK5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Colerain
Posts: 798
Don't know what fits on a TJ... Here are pics from AGR.

It's hard to cross reference from there page. AGR spec'd this stuff in for a 79 Chevy truck with high/cross steering arms.

Cross-over box is a SB1 with ram ports .. like $360
Super-P pump was like $145
Line kit $45
Ram was $150

Make offer , I have around $700 in the whole deal.
Attached Images
  
JeffK5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:17 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 2021, C.O.R.E. All rights reserved.