D44 in a YJ?

jfiscus · 01-22-2010, 05:14 PM

A buddy of the owner brought his YJ project intot he shop to get a new clutch. He had me take a quick glance at it since I know more about the modified vehicles than he does, and I noticed that the front steering has issues that need addressed.

Someone has swapped a D44 with an air locker into this YJ, but the steering is rubbing a hole in the tie rod.... What are your suggestions?

I suggested a SOA lift kit, but wasn't sure what to do with the steering after that. I assume with a larger lift he'd be running larger tires and would need a stronger steering setup.

Take a look at the images below

KargoMaster · 01-22-2010, 05:38 PM

SUA... sounds like something that Paul would do...

How about a non-drop pitman arm??

Drivermod · 01-22-2010, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KargoMaster

SUA... sounds like something that Paul would do...

How about a non-drop pitman arm??

You beat me to the pitman arm idea. Does he want to change the ride height?

94Dodge Truggy · 01-22-2010, 08:34 PM

change the shackles out to a boomerang style or longer possibly.

superjeep · 01-22-2010, 11:00 PM

From the second picture it looks too me like there is a problem with the springs. The shackles are pushed way too far forward to be sitting in stock position.Look at it from the side. and maybe measure the springs and axle location on the springs ?????

Shawn

GPER · 01-24-2010, 09:17 AM

Where would a TRE flip put you????

jfiscus · 01-25-2010, 09:16 AM

we were recommending he do an SOA lift, what do you suggest steering wise after that?

what else can I provide pics of?

KennyTJ · 01-25-2010, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jfiscus

we were recommending he do an SOA lift, what do you suggest steering wise after that?

what else can I provide pics of?

Just get the heims and do a full cross over. worth the couple hundy, for the parts.

blazerbrad · 01-25-2010, 06:06 PM

I agree with the above comment that something definitely looks different in regards to the front springs and shackle angle. Are they stock length springs? Are the mounts stock? I'm almost betting that the front axle was moved forward.

Flxratd · 01-25-2010, 06:51 PM

i know the object is to not shorten the wheelbase but is there enough room to redrill the fixed end mount and relocate the spring back an inch or so ? free fix with just a little time

biggin69 · 01-25-2010, 06:56 PM

I would fix the coolant leak while it is in there too.

cheapthrills49 · 01-25-2010, 07:46 PM

that minor jeep issue shouldnt affect how it pulls in 2 mall parking spots..... right?

hell tell him 2 buy a toyota

jfiscus · 01-26-2010, 09:44 AM

you would NOT believe what he has into this thing...

Anyways, we pulled the trans & it's not stock either.
From a visual inspection it looks like a GM 465, then adaptor, then an unknown tcase? Did YJs have that flange at the rear? We sent the pulled parts off to the parts house for them to match up; hopefully the new stuff works.

Scott, if you might be interested in some work, give me a ring. 513-317-2314
- jason

Hope Springs Hauler · 01-26-2010, 09:58 AM

I just thought about it. Check and see if you could do full crossover steering. The tie rod could go where it apparently originally went and the drag link could extend where the tie rod currently is. Check for clearances. Just an idea if they don't want to lift.

On the T-case, the possibility exists that it could be an oddball NP207 from and 87 wrangler. Never laid eyes on one, but they came in front of a Peugot trans that year so????

blazerbrad · 01-28-2010, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfiscus

you would NOT believe what he has into this thing...

Anyways, we pulled the trans & it's not stock either.
From a visual inspection it looks like a GM 465, then adaptor, then an unknown tcase? Did YJs have that flange at the rear? We sent the pulled parts off to the parts house for them to match up; hopefully the new stuff works.

Scott, if you might be interested in some work, give me a ring. 513-317-2314
- jason

The t-case looks like it has an aluminum case. If it's a New Process version then it should have a round metal tag on the back face of it (they sometimes get knocked off, but usually are still in place). Chevy used the SM465 with several aluminum t-cases, but they didn't offer a driver's side drop until '88 (NP241) in the fullsize trucks, but a passenger side drop NP231 was found in S-10s for years. But to the my knowledge none ever had a fixed rear yoke like that stock, but aftermarket SYE's were available.

JET455 · 01-30-2010, 12:35 AM

the HD 242 from a HUMVEE has a fixed rear yoke does it have place for cooler lines?

01-22-2010, 05:14 PM	#1
jfiscus Terrain Stomper Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Crittenden, KY Posts: 633	D44 in a YJ? A buddy of the owner brought his YJ project intot he shop to get a new clutch. He had me take a quick glance at it since I know more about the modified vehicles than he does, and I noticed that the front steering has issues that need addressed. Someone has swapped a D44 with an air locker into this YJ, but the steering is rubbing a hole in the tie rod.... What are your suggestions? I suggested a SOA lift kit, but wasn't sure what to do with the steering after that. I assume with a larger lift he'd be running larger tires and would need a stronger steering setup. Take a look at the images below Last edited by jfiscus; 01-26-2010 at 09:54 AM.

01-22-2010, 05:38 PM	#2
KargoMaster Cleaning off the rust... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,009	SUA... sounds like something that Paul would do... How about a non-drop pitman arm?? __________________ brad 5.0L \| 435 \| 203 \| 300 \| 4.10 \| 39.5 Buildup BACK underway...

01-22-2010, 08:34 PM	#4
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	change the shackles out to a boomerang style or longer possibly. __________________

01-25-2010, 06:51 PM	#10
Flxratd Retired Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hamilton/Ross Posts: 645	i know the object is to not shorten the wheelbase but is there enough room to redrill the fixed end mount and relocate the spring back an inch or so ? free fix with just a little time __________________ One of these days Zuk 2.0

01-25-2010, 07:46 PM	#12
cheapthrills49 VANILLA GORILLA Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: blanmolester, ohio.......stonelick lake Posts: 192	that minor jeep issue shouldnt affect how it pulls in 2 mall parking spots..... right? hell tell him 2 buy a toyota __________________ I EAT BURRITOS ON EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!

01-22-2010, 11:00 PM	#5
superjeep Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 88	From the second picture it looks too me like there is a problem with the springs. The shackles are pushed way too far forward to be sitting in stock position.Look at it from the side. and maybe measure the springs and axle location on the springs ????? Shawn

01-24-2010, 09:17 AM	#6
GPER Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 811	Where would a TRE flip put you????

01-25-2010, 09:16 AM	#7
jfiscus Terrain Stomper Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Crittenden, KY Posts: 633	we were recommending he do an SOA lift, what do you suggest steering wise after that? what else can I provide pics of?

01-25-2010, 06:06 PM	#9
blazerbrad - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 831 Images: 6	I agree with the above comment that something definitely looks different in regards to the front springs and shackle angle. Are they stock length springs? Are the mounts stock? I'm almost betting that the front axle was moved forward.

01-25-2010, 06:56 PM	#11
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	I would fix the coolant leak while it is in there too.

01-26-2010, 09:44 AM	#13
jfiscus Terrain Stomper Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Crittenden, KY Posts: 633	you would NOT believe what he has into this thing... Anyways, we pulled the trans & it's not stock either. From a visual inspection it looks like a GM 465, then adaptor, then an unknown tcase? Did YJs have that flange at the rear? We sent the pulled parts off to the parts house for them to match up; hopefully the new stuff works. Scott, if you might be interested in some work, give me a ring. 513-317-2314 - jason

01-26-2010, 09:58 AM	#14
Hope Springs Hauler Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 431 Images: 16	I just thought about it. Check and see if you could do full crossover steering. The tie rod could go where it apparently originally went and the drag link could extend where the tie rod currently is. Check for clearances. Just an idea if they don't want to lift. On the T-case, the possibility exists that it could be an oddball NP207 from and 87 wrangler. Never laid eyes on one, but they came in front of a Peugot trans that year so???? __________________ 1988 Suzuki Samurai on propane FJ 40 axles (4.10) 5.14 tcase 36" TSL SX

01-30-2010, 12:35 AM	#16
JET455 Your wifes pimp! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Everywhere!!!!!! Posts: 548	the HD 242 from a HUMVEE has a fixed rear yoke does it have place for cooler lines? __________________ if i am not currently offending you, i will be shortly.