Wiring the buggy...

biggin69 · 05-08-2013, 01:38 PM

This is what I came up for the battery/charging system. What do you all think?

biggin69 · 05-08-2013, 01:40 PM

there will also be a 150 amp circuit breaker between the battery and master disconnect.

KargoMaster · 05-08-2013, 05:27 PM

I would probably change the hot wire to the alternator to the other side of the "master disconnect"... otherwise it will be misnamed...

yellowjacket · 05-08-2013, 05:36 PM

sorry for the hijack but i have a whole case of gm weatherpack connectorsthat i probly never use that u are more than welcome to if u want them. makes for some clean wiring.

biggin69 · 05-08-2013, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KargoMaster

I would probably change the hot wire to the alternator to the other side of the "master disconnect"... otherwise it will be misnamed...

Oops! Good catch Brad.

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Originally Posted by yellowjacket

sorry for the hijack but i have a whole case of gm weatherpack connectorsthat i probly never use that u are more than welcome to if u want them. makes for some clean wiring.

Sending you a pm...

biggin69 · 05-08-2013, 05:56 PM

Rob, your pm box is full!

timido · 05-08-2013, 07:23 PM

You want your alternator cable on the battery side like the picture. When you kill power to the buggy you want to kill the ignition and fuel. If the Single wire alternator is on the ignition and fuel side of the switch it will still power run the fuel pump and the ignition.

twiztedzuki · 05-08-2013, 07:27 PM

hey i put alternator wire on other side! lol no but i ran alt. wire to starter power to charge battery to cut down on wires.

biggin69 · 05-08-2013, 08:38 PM

That is the reason I put the alternator on the battery side, thinking it would still run if it was on the opposite side.

KargoMaster · 05-09-2013, 04:50 PM

Wait... what?

Maybe I'm thinking about this disconnect differently than most... if I kill the power to the entire rig, then go to pull out the alternator to find it still hot... I would (most likely curse repeatly, and) think that the "Master Disconnect" was misnamed or faulty... This isn't the start/ignition switch, it's a safety/convenience item to kill ALL power...

Just my 2 pesos worth, I guess...

biggin69 · 05-09-2013, 05:25 PM

Correct. It is to kill all power but if you move the salt wire to the other side like you mentioned, the switch will not kill the engine if it is running because the alternator will be powering everything. Make sense?

Hope Springs Hauler · 05-09-2013, 05:50 PM

Are you running a GM Alt? If so, is it a 1 wire or 3 wire?

If it is a 3 wire like mine, so long as the volt sense wire is routed to a switched source, you can "turn off" the alternator.

yellowjacket · 05-09-2013, 05:52 PM

or get a single pole double throw style disconect..

biggin69 · 05-09-2013, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hope Springs Hauler

Are you running a GM Alt? If so, is it a 1 wire or 3 wire?

If it is a 3 wire like mine, so long as the volt sense wire is routed to a switched source, you can "turn off" the alternator.

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Originally Posted by yellowjacket

or get a single pole double throw style disconect..

Its a 3 wire. The switch is a 4 pole type, 2 for battery cable and 2 for alternator field.

KargoMaster · 05-09-2013, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by biggin69

Correct. It is to kill all power but if you move the salt wire to the other side like you mentioned, the switch will not kill the engine if it is running because the alternator will be powering everything. Make sense?

I guess I never considered this "Master Disconnect" the thing to pull to turn off the engine... dash ignition/fuel switches for that?

I just can't wrap my head around the name... sorry, not trying to be a jerk... If this is a kill switch, call it a kill switch... (I would certainly look at it differently at that point) Until the entire rig is de-energized, i have a hard time with "Master Disconnect"

...fun topic though... thanks for starting it up...

biggin69 · 05-10-2013, 07:45 AM

The master disconnect is mainly to kill power during an emergency, like a roll over, and to kill all power when the rig is not in use. You still have a switch for ignition that controls the fuel pump and such for everyday use while on the trail.

biggin69 · 05-11-2013, 03:12 PM

Got the gauge and switch panel made. It's getting there!

Hope Springs Hauler · 05-11-2013, 07:06 PM

Purdy!

fastford · 05-11-2013, 11:37 PM

biggin69 · 06-04-2013, 08:41 PM

All wires are ran! Hopefully I will get to hit the starter button and see what happens in a day or two.

biggin69 · 06-09-2013, 12:57 PM

It's alive!!!

I pushed the green button and the buggy fired right up. Not bad for sitting as long as it has. I have two small wiring issues that I need to straighten up, which I consider pretty damn good for completey custom wiring the entire thing. One is something goofy going on with the horn relay and the second is a bad led indicator light on one of my switches.

rilynsdad · 06-09-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by biggin69

It's alive!!!

I pushed the green button and the buggy fired right up. Not bad for sitting as long as it has. I have two small wiring issues that I need to straighten up, which I consider pretty damn good for completey custom wiring the entire thing. One is something goofy going on with the horn relay and the second is a bad led indicator light on one of my switches.

biggin69 · 06-09-2013, 08:50 PM

Got the led and relay issues straightened out. The little Chinese kid that soldered the leads in the led used enough solder for a 2" copper coupling causing the hot side to ground out on the housing. The relay was fault. Forgot to ground it.

Green Zuggy · 06-09-2013, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggin69

It's alive!!!

I pushed the green button and the buggy fired right up. Not bad for sitting as long as it has. I have two small wiring issues that I need to straighten up, which I consider pretty damn good for completey custom wiring the entire thing. One is something goofy going on with the horn relay and the second is a bad led indicator light on one of my switches.

Congrats!

fastford · 06-10-2013, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biggin69

It's alive!!!

I pushed the green button and the buggy fired right up. Not bad for sitting as long as it has. I have two small wiring issues that I need to straighten up, which I consider pretty damn good for completey custom wiring the entire thing. One is something goofy going on with the horn relay and the second is a bad led indicator light on one of my switches.

Makes ya feel good when a plan comes together

congrats now get it on the trails

05-08-2013, 01:38 PM	#1
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	Wiring the buggy... This is what I came up for the battery/charging system. What do you all think? Attached Thumbnails __________________ One Country, One Flag, One Language... LIKE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!

05-08-2013, 01:40 PM	#2
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	there will also be a 150 amp circuit breaker between the battery and master disconnect. __________________ One Country, One Flag, One Language... LIKE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!

05-08-2013, 05:27 PM	#3
KargoMaster Cleaning off the rust... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,009	I would probably change the hot wire to the alternator to the other side of the "master disconnect"... otherwise it will be misnamed... __________________ brad 5.0L \| 435 \| 203 \| 300 \| 4.10 \| 39.5 Buildup BACK underway...

05-08-2013, 05:36 PM	#4
yellowjacket barely breathing Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: alexandria, ky Posts: 889	sorry for the hijack but i have a whole case of gm weatherpack connectorsthat i probly never use that u are more than welcome to if u want them. makes for some clean wiring. __________________ my next rig will be on the trail before zuk 2.0 will

05-08-2013, 05:56 PM	#6
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	Rob, your pm box is full! __________________ One Country, One Flag, One Language... LIKE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!

05-08-2013, 07:23 PM	#7
timido Student Driver Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 197	You want your alternator cable on the battery side like the picture. When you kill power to the buggy you want to kill the ignition and fuel. If the Single wire alternator is on the ignition and fuel side of the switch it will still power run the fuel pump and the ignition.

05-08-2013, 07:27 PM	#8
twiztedzuki Join Date: May 2008 Location: Waverly ohio Posts: 586	hey i put alternator wire on other side! lol no but i ran alt. wire to starter power to charge battery to cut down on wires. __________________ SMITH BUILT PERIOD

05-08-2013, 08:38 PM	#9
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	That is the reason I put the alternator on the battery side, thinking it would still run if it was on the opposite side. __________________ One Country, One Flag, One Language... LIKE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!

05-09-2013, 04:50 PM	#10
KargoMaster Cleaning off the rust... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,009	Wait... what? Maybe I'm thinking about this disconnect differently than most... if I kill the power to the entire rig, then go to pull out the alternator to find it still hot... I would (most likely curse repeatly, and) think that the "Master Disconnect" was misnamed or faulty... This isn't the start/ignition switch, it's a safety/convenience item to kill ALL power... Just my 2 pesos worth, I guess... __________________ brad 5.0L \| 435 \| 203 \| 300 \| 4.10 \| 39.5 Buildup BACK underway...

05-09-2013, 05:25 PM	#11
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	Correct. It is to kill all power but if you move the salt wire to the other side like you mentioned, the switch will not kill the engine if it is running because the alternator will be powering everything. Make sense? __________________ One Country, One Flag, One Language... LIKE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!

05-09-2013, 05:50 PM	#12
Hope Springs Hauler Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 431 Images: 16	Are you running a GM Alt? If so, is it a 1 wire or 3 wire? If it is a 3 wire like mine, so long as the volt sense wire is routed to a switched source, you can "turn off" the alternator. __________________ 1988 Suzuki Samurai on propane FJ 40 axles (4.10) 5.14 tcase 36" TSL SX

05-09-2013, 05:52 PM	#13
yellowjacket barely breathing Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: alexandria, ky Posts: 889	or get a single pole double throw style disconect.. __________________ my next rig will be on the trail before zuk 2.0 will

05-10-2013, 07:45 AM	#16
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	The master disconnect is mainly to kill power during an emergency, like a roll over, and to kill all power when the rig is not in use. You still have a switch for ignition that controls the fuel pump and such for everyday use while on the trail. __________________ One Country, One Flag, One Language... LIKE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!

05-11-2013, 03:12 PM	#17
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	Got the gauge and switch panel made. It's getting there! Attached Thumbnails __________________ One Country, One Flag, One Language... LIKE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!

05-11-2013, 07:06 PM	#18
Hope Springs Hauler Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 431 Images: 16	Purdy! __________________ 1988 Suzuki Samurai on propane FJ 40 axles (4.10) 5.14 tcase 36" TSL SX

05-11-2013, 11:37 PM	#19
fastford Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hamilton OH Posts: 163 Images: 13

06-04-2013, 08:41 PM	#20
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	All wires are ran! Hopefully I will get to hit the starter button and see what happens in a day or two. __________________ One Country, One Flag, One Language... LIKE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!

06-09-2013, 12:57 PM	#21
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	It's alive!!! I pushed the green button and the buggy fired right up. Not bad for sitting as long as it has. I have two small wiring issues that I need to straighten up, which I consider pretty damn good for completey custom wiring the entire thing. One is something goofy going on with the horn relay and the second is a bad led indicator light on one of my switches. __________________ One Country, One Flag, One Language... LIKE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!

06-09-2013, 08:50 PM	#23
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	Got the led and relay issues straightened out. The little Chinese kid that soldered the leads in the led used enough solder for a 2" copper coupling causing the hot side to ground out on the housing. The relay was fault. Forgot to ground it. __________________ One Country, One Flag, One Language... LIKE IT OR LEAVE IT!!!