TTC question

[RuffedUpXJ]

I have a camo one I wear as well and I understand the heat and what not and I guess that explains having one being the "hat" for the event makes them popular.

It was funny watching the camera guys trying to walk along the tank trap when you guys went through it since they couldn't keep up.

How close did the points end up being? I haven't found them and FourWheeler's site sucks.

[KargoMaster]

I liked the YouTube video that showed Tony Becker almost sliding down in front of us when he slipped on the walking path...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bOBVJQVs4o&NR=1

Here's my take on the "results" ...there's 3 possibilities:

Official:
1. Carwash Buggy = 67
2. Guam Buggy = 66
3. Willys Buggy = 46
4. Zuk Buggy = 45
5. Gray Truck = 41 (Truck Class Winner)
6. Roger's PowerWagon = 40
7. Danger Ranger = 32
8. '37 Ford = 31
9. 12voltGuy = 25


Unofficial: (+FatGirl earned points before 'Trap)
1. Carwash Buggy = 67
2. Guam Buggy = 66
3. Willys Buggy = 46
4. Zuk Buggy = 45
5. FatGirl Buggy = 43
6. Gray Truck = 41
7. Roger's PowerWagon = 40
8. Danger Ranger = 32
9. '37 Ford = 31
10. 12voltGuy = 25


Unofficial Buggy Class: (+FatGirl points in the 'Trap)
1. Carwash Buggy = 67
2. Guam Buggy = 66
3. FatGirl Buggy = 53 (estimated based on Leo/Viz time through 'Trap)
4. Willys Buggy = 46
5. Zuk Buggy = 45


Not sure that the "Truck Class" Equal Opportunity bracket is really a good idea as it was really 5th or 6th place overall... but we'll see what happens...

[jwend]

Originally Posted by carwash

You want some driving lessons Yellowfaggot?

haha, thats a good one! got me laughin

[RuffedUpXJ]

Well the truck class is cool for people that don't have a money for a full tube chassis.

The obstacle course seemed to kill everyones tie rod ends on the drop off. That would suck.

[blazerbrad]

It's nice to know that even if Fat Girl would have won the Tank Trap, Carwash would have still won the event.

Fat Girl = 43 going into tank trap, then +20 if they won = 63
Carwash = second place in tank trap would have dropped him 2 points = 65

I understand the concept of the truck class regarding not being able to afford a full blown tube buggy......but do you really think any of the "trucks" in that class have substantially less money or time in them? I'm sure there were buggies there that did cost more and require more time, but point being you could build a decent buggy for the time and cost.

[RuffedUpXJ]

Originally Posted by blazerbrad

It's nice to know that even if Fat Girl would have won the Tank Trap, Carwash would have still won the event.

Fat Girl = 43 going into tank trap, then +20 if they won = 63
Carwash = second place in tank trap would have dropped him 2 points = 65

I understand the concept of the truck class regarding not being able to afford a full blown tube buggy......but do you really think any of the "trucks" in that class have substantially less money or time in them? I'm sure there were buggies there that did cost more and require more time, but point being you could build a decent buggy for the time and cost.

Do you think it would be better if it was more like UROC and WEROCK with tire sized classes?

I do get the whole advance the wheeling world with engineering and tech. and I understand that part of TTC.

[KargoMaster]

I guess there were only two Mickey Thompson Classes this year... 46" and 54" (side note: I bet last year's loss to ag tires chapped MT's ass, because ALL competitors got MT tires this year...) If I chop up the results by Tire Size:

1. 54 Carwash Buggy = 67
2. 54 Guam Buggy = 66
3. 54 Willys Buggy = 46
4. 54 Zuk Buggy = 45
6. 54 Roger's PowerWagon = 40
7. 54 Danger Ranger = 32


4a. 46 FatGirl = 43 (DQ)
5. 46 Gray Truck = 41 (Truck Class Winner)
8. 46 '37 Ford = 31
9. 46 12voltGuy = 25



I don't know that would be any better or worse... but to give a person competing a reason to not "just go bigger" at this point doesn't look like a bad thing. But then you get back to Buggies and Trucks in same class...

It's a tough call, I guess that's why they went Truck Affirmative Action this year.

[yellowjacket]

wow. you are putting a lot of work and thought into this.

remember when carwash said that if he won he'd buy an ice cream for everyone? i cant dig up that post- i bet he deleted it:confused:

i dident know that about the ag tires last year- did he just not want m/t's, or did the kubota dealer sponsor him or...? or is running m/t's gonna be mandatory next to even the feild out?
my favorite irony is tuff country as a sponsor.

[gothodgie]

mmmm.... Hodgie like ice cream....:p

[tjjeepjeep]

If I remember it wasn't ice cream he promised...

[KargoMaster]

Originally Posted by yellowjacket

wow. you are putting a lot of work and thought into this...

I've had some time to ponder the possibilities... yes. Worst part for me was the dreams during and just after the comp... I'm glad those are over. Let's just say that my mind was very focused on the competition.

Originally Posted by yellowjacket

...i didn't know that about the ag tires last year- did he just not want m/t's, or did the kubota dealer sponsor him or...? or is running m/t's gonna be mandatory next to even the feild out?
...

Dave "ROAD KILL 5.9" on Pirate was last years winner (over Brett Jerome by 1 point)... I think he just liked his setup the way it was... worked out well for him I think.. I can't imagine forcing MT's on everyone... That would be counter-productive and stupid. This years alternates had 44 Boggers and 54 Boggers...

Originally Posted by yellowjacket

...my favorite irony is tuff country as a sponsor.

Yes, that's almost as ironic as a Rockwell rig running Superior and Tough Country stickers in the comp... Wait...

I liked Ryan's quote on Pirate... "Do you think Brett Farve only wears Wrangler Jeans?" Really guy?

One of the driving forces for this comp is always going to be the Return On Investment that the sponsors actually feel like they get (because it is hard to quantify). Good or bad...



In the end, TTC was a good time wheeling... (and the days that followed in JV were hard to compare to anything) possibly once in a lifetime for folks on this side of the country... I wouldn't change a thing...

[twiztedzuki]

do you hav to run slicky mickey baja claws because of sponsorship or what?

[itbrokeagain]

Sooooooooooo I read next years event is possibly a Champions event. Any truth to this?

[twiztedzuki]

that be hard to do most people are constantly upgrading, selling building bigger and better. another thing fatgirl aint **** without TC! like knightrider without Micheal

[carwash]

2012 will be the champions cup year, and no you don't have to run the rig you won it in. If so, some people would be in SUA cj's with 33's.... yeah right. My build has already started...

And please don't be a timmy cameron nut swinger... Leo drives the fat girl with even more reckless abandon that Tim ever did. That rig is pretty cool, but it's just another rig man... if you hung out with it for a week, it would be nothing more than another buddy's trail rig. That being said, Leo is a pretty cool guy, and I'm looking forward to wheeling with him again.

[twiztedzuki]

aint tryn hurt ur feelings but doubt he drives like tc! ur rite i like his Smith buggy better fatgirl aint **** to it! Nutswinger u spend to much time on pirate, thought couple people sucked u off on this thread!! so what about the slicky mickeys, why people running them?

[carwash]

I'm not even sure how to respond, i don't really want to start a **** storm...

you doubt it why? cuz no one can possibly drive like (or maybe even better) than timmy cameron? Tim got crazy popular cuz he had some guys that followed him everywhere with video cameras and pasted it all on you tube. If you think no one can drive like him, then you haven't wheeled with that many throttle jockey people. I'm not doubting his wheeling ability, He's awesome for sure. I'm just saying he's not quite as god-like as everyone titles him. if you equate the term nutswinger with pirate, then you have been spending too much time there yourself. some expressions can exist outside of the pbb.

I didn't notice being sucked off in this thread, please elaborate.

People run the TTC Claw because it's an unreal tire, its the best tire in the 54" size, any less tire size is a loser at TTC, and to top it off, they give you a set if you want them. Not many turn them down.

[twiztedzuki]

calm down!! just rattling ur cage, I figured they would hav to giv competitors sets to get them to use them, just wasnt sure. be nice if you groove them ahead time!

[itbrokeagain]

Judging by what I have seen on tv, it seems like the Mickeys held some people up in the Tank Trap. It looked to me that they didnt clean out too well

[twiztedzuki]

If tsl made 54s be sweet! Id run slicky mickeys to if they gave them to me but tsl way to go! Ur rite they do not clean or seem to get side bite

[yellowjacket]

i have nothing to add to this discussion.

[carwash]

Mine had no problems cleaning out... If I had to purchase a tire of that size, meaning 49 or larger, i'd go with thew claws. I think it's king in that size class... the side tread is unreal. It is a very soft compound and it held up amazingly well even in the super sharp rocks of the hammers.

And I agree, a TSL in a 54 would be freakin' awesome.

I will do my best to get another set of the claws for the champions cup...

[yellowjacket]

wash- did you say you started another rig already.... ? you DO realize that the champion event is 2011 or 2012, right?

not 2015;)

[jwend]

hahaha, and you guys are going to kill the bender thread now.... i love this forum when he weather changes.... nothing better to do than be a smart a$s on the core board... priceless

[jwend]

and a side note... if you saw that claw in person and how sticky and maliable the tread is you would understand.. it is a wicked tire,, one you dont have to cut to make work