Gooseneck flatbed trailer

[itbrokeagain]

I will eventually be looking for a trailer. I would like something in the 25-30 foot range so I can tow a friend also. What should I expect to pay for something like this?

[gothodgie]

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/grd/4566699956.html

http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/grd/4544197146.html

[tbshakie]

3 to 5 grand (used)depending on condition. I have a 24 ft goose neck. just barely long enough to tow two. I have put a jeep on the front and a full sized rig on the back.

My father in law is thinking of selling his 30 ft goose neck. Interested?

[itbrokeagain]

Originally Posted by tbshakie

3 to 5 grand (used)depending on condition. I have a 24 ft goose neck. just barely long enough to tow two. I have put a jeep on the front and a full sized rig on the back.

My father in law is thinking of selling his 30 ft goose neck. Interested?

Interested but I don't have the cash right now

[tbshakie]

My 24 ft deck over goose neck weighs 4,940 lbs. Has 2-7,000 axles, and can hold 12,000 lbs. So fully loaded the whole combo can weigh just under 17,000 lbs.

The 30 ft deck-over goose neck weights 5,600 lbs. Its is set up for 3 axles, but currently has 2. With three axles, it should be good for 19K pounds on the trailer.

I borrow an F450 when I tow this much weight.

[WrenchMonkey]

Originally Posted by tbshakie

My 24 ft deck over goose neck weighs 4,940 lbs. Has 2-7,000 axles, and can hold 12,000 lbs. So fully loaded the whole combo can weigh just under 17,000 lbs...

So the other 3k is tongue weight? I never realized they put that much load onto the tow rig...

Learn something every day.

[timido]

pretty sure you need CDL over 10K trailer these days I guess it depends on your tow veh GVW

"Any combination of vehicles with a combined gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more, provided the gross vehicle weight rating of the vehicle or vehicles being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds;"

[Runoveru2]

You don't need a CDL for your own personal property regardless of the weight or combination. Once you start making money (your own buisness) or hauling for a company then you must acquire a CDL. You can buy a full tractor trailer and load up to 80,000 pounds and drive it around all day as a daily driver if you choose too.

[itbrokeagain]

Originally Posted by WrenchMonkey

So the other 3k is tongue weight? I never realized they put that much load onto the tow rig...

Learn something every day.

They tow so much nicer though. It's almost too easy to pull one. You feel the weight of the trailer but you don't feel it on the truck if that makes sense

It was an idea. Not something that will definitely happen. I do know the previous owner pulled 15-20k regularly. My 80 weighs around 6k empty. When I'm ready I may just go with a 20 foot and be done with it

[jeepmanjeff]

I have a F550 4x4 RV and a 30' deck over tongue trailer. CGCW with 2 built jeeps is roughly 31k lbs.

I will sell it all! come lets make a deal! :) :) :)

[WrenchMonkey]

Originally Posted by jeepmanjeff

I have a F550 4x4 RV and a 30' deck over tongue trailer. CGCW with 2 built jeeps is roughly 31k lbs.

I will sell it all! come lets make a deal! :) :) :)

I bet you wouldn't trade for the deed to my house...

(Really nice setup, man...)

[underpowered]

25 is absolute Minimum to tow two rigs. We put two on a 25' and it is very tight, as in bumper to bumper tight on it. 28' is much better, as we commonly tow Two rigs in an enclosed 28' trailer and they fit much better in there. One day i want a 30' deck over though. Check weights on trailers as said before, two 7k axles won't get you real far so i suggest either a tri-axle or dual tandems for a 20k+ trailer rating.

when i was looking, one could be had for 6k new for a bare bones trailer, used from 3k up depending on condition.

[tbshakie]

only problem with dual tandems (9,000 lb axles) is that the trailers are usually that much heavier (weight wise). instead of a 5,000 lb trailer, its now 7,000 lbs. and you need a bigger truck. you will be fine with 2-7,000 lb axles pulling 2 jeeps. go duals for 2-fullsized rigs. 24 ft in bare minimum for 2 jeeps (I have to take the spare tire off the first one, bumper about 2 inches away from each other, about 1 ft of trailer length left.) its tight, but it works.

[underpowered]

two light rigs can get away with on two 7k axles, but when dealing with much other than jeeps or yota's you need either the duals or a third axle. You can quickly overload a 14k trailer when you think of how much the trailer itself weighs.

[gothodgie]

Originally Posted by underpowered

two light rigs can get away with on two 7k axles, but when dealing with much other than jeeps or yota's you need either the duals or a third axle. You can quickly overload a 14k trailer when you think of how much the trailer itself weighs.

not all Yotas are lite...

[tbshakie]

I'm not trying to argue your point because I do think it has merit (It is always better to have too much trailer than not enough), I think you are forgetting about the weight transfer to the truck in your assessment of the weight carrying capacity and the axle spread of the trailer. I can only speak for the trailer I have (1997 OTM). The label carrying capacity of the trailer is 12K pounds. I have see a few longer trailers with single wheels (two axles) that has rated capacities of 18,000 lbs. At the time, I thought to myself, there is no way that the trailer can carry any more weight then mine because it has the same axles (and E rated tires to boot!!!). The only explanation I have is that the trailer has a different weight distribution to the axles and the truck to not overload the axles.

I do think this is too much weight for e-rated tires. An E-rated tire is generally rated for around 3,200 lbs. I went through a few tires (granted mine were old and needed replaced anyway, I think this was 99% of the problem). When I finally broke down and got new tires, I went with G rated tires rated at 3,750 lbs per tire.

Again, I am not trying to argue with anyone. Just adding to this discussion (which I think is a very informative discussion).

[underpowered]

Originally Posted by tbshakie

I'm not trying to argue your point because I do think it has merit (It is always better to have too much trailer than not enough), I think you are forgetting about the weight transfer to the truck in your assessment of the weight carrying capacity and the axle spread of the trailer. I can only speak for the trailer I have (1997 OTM). The label carrying capacity of the trailer is 12K pounds. I have see a few longer trailers with single wheels (two axles) that has rated capacities of 18,000 lbs. At the time, I thought to myself, there is no way that the trailer can carry any more weight then mine because it has the same axles (and E rated tires to boot!!!). The only explanation I have is that the trailer has a different weight distribution to the axles and the truck to not overload the axles.

I do think this is too much weight for e-rated tires. An E-rated tire is generally rated for around 3,200 lbs. I went through a few tires (granted mine were old and needed replaced anyway, I think this was 99% of the problem). When I finally broke down and got new tires, I went with G rated tires rated at 3,750 lbs per tire.

Again, I am not trying to argue with anyone. Just adding to this discussion (which I think is a very informative discussion).

are are correct, i did neglect the weight transfer to the truck. My mistake.

i know on a tag trailer you should have roughly 10% tongue weight, but what about a GN trailer? home much weight should be put on the truck? I usually neglect this when i load up, as i load how it fits usually as it only fits one way in the trailer.

[WrenchMonkey]

The quick Google I did said 25%. So yeah, another 3000# capacity...

[timido]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

I dont know if that link will show up but my friend Brian just said he had 24ft GN Deckover for $2200 it looks good. Sounded like a good price on it so I figured I would pass it along