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Old 01-26-2015, 09:45 PM   #26
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U talkin bout me? I know the positive and would expect the positive to be obvious. Its the other that tends to catch us by suprise. There's people traveling 3+ hrs for this. Even as I write this they're still advertising as looking for vendors and vehicles. Posted as being 7acres of floor space and its going to be full. 7 acres? Parking space maybe. I'm merely stating the obvious or have unanswered questions. I'm not the only one. Many are asking for a vender list for a reason. I'm all for the support of local 4x4 100%. Jeeps, toyota's, buggy's whatever. Just not fords.
Ok, so to answer the topic question, no, you are not going. Right?
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:10 PM   #27
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Omta is going twice. Even more reason to skip it

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Old 01-26-2015, 10:36 PM   #28
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Now you have gone and done it.

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Old 01-26-2015, 10:48 PM   #29
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Yeah, that nfsebuch guy was talkin trash on core. I commented baxk. It got axed fast.

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Old 01-26-2015, 11:18 PM   #30
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I have now been in contact with of of the folks running the event. I will likely still go

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Old 01-27-2015, 10:21 AM   #31
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Waffle I was talking about guy in other post not you.
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Old 01-27-2015, 10:22 AM   #32
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I have done rc stuff with dayton rc mafia. They are good people.
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Old 01-27-2015, 11:25 AM   #33
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Was just one guy saying something and only 4 posts that I saw
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Old 01-27-2015, 11:38 AM   #34
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Yeah it got taken out in a hurry by the admin. I then got a message of apalogies from the admin for his actions.

I call it like it is, sometimes it makes me seam like a pick. I'm not a paid member here but I have alot more respect, and alot more in common with yall. And I've seen core members out supporting venues more so than them so I jumped in quick when nfsebuch was crying about core.

The admin over there reaching out to me means alot. So I will continue to help promote thier events.

Anyhow per 93 crawler request maybe we should keep this on track.




I still ha e roughly 20 folks from or associated with my group planning to go.

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Old 01-27-2015, 02:11 PM   #35
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Yeah it got taken out in a hurry by the admin. I then got a message of apalogies from the admin for his actions.

I call it like it is, sometimes it makes me seam like a pick. I'm not a paid member here but I have alot more respect, and alot more in common with yall. And I've seen core members out supporting venues more so than them so I jumped in quick when nfsebuch was crying about core.

The admin over there reaching out to me means alot. So I will continue to help promote thier events.

Anyhow per 93 crawler request maybe we should keep this on track.




I still ha e roughly 20 folks from or associated with my group planning to go.

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Thanks for having our backs. There were several of our club members that were supporting the expo, not bashing it. Not sure why he would bash our club because of some comments from non members.
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Old 01-27-2015, 02:51 PM   #36
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sounds like I missed sum action on here!
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Old 01-28-2015, 07:55 AM   #37
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I had every intention of going and I was trying to get my Toyota in. Talked to the guy running it and I wasn't very happy by the end of that conversation. I understand the want for pretty vehicles but that's not what I want to see when I go to an off road expo because that's not what you see out on the trail. I want to see something that works. Something that actually wheels so I can get ideas for my own truck. I will not be going because of that conversation that was had
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Old 01-28-2015, 08:27 AM   #38
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I never talked to them about taking a rig but I saw the advertisement for show quality trail rigs. I just chuckled. That's why I exspect a bunch of dealership jks with bolt on Mopar equipment and maybe a few ford raptors. Not going to find a true trail rig around here that's show quality

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Old 01-28-2015, 12:36 PM   #39
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I know of a few trail rigs that are show quality, but one is at KOH right now. I also know of a guy who has a rumored 70grand tied up in his new style fj and only runs the main roads at harlan so he doesnt scratch it...
That's NOT a trail rig.
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Old 01-28-2015, 02:00 PM   #40
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Unfortunately the vast majority of people into the "off-road" thing are mall cruisers, and that also means that is where the majority of the money comes from. A lot of the people going to the expo don't want to see some home-built dented and rusted up (i.e. real world) rig. Back when I was a kid it was unusual to see any kind of modified off-road rig cruising around. Nowadays I see multiple lifted Jeeps and trucks everyday on my drive to and from work. I'm talking tires/wheels, lifts, bumpers, winches, lights, etc, etc... Usually take a closer look at them when they are in a parking lot and it is rare to see one that has any evidence of being off-road. Just about every rig I have ever seen that actually got used on a real trail had some evidence of it. Trail rash on the tires, branch pinstriping on the paint, nicks and chips in the paint, mud still stuck up under the fenders, etc... There is a guy in my other club with a beautiful black YJ who spends hours washing and buffing it out after trailrides (uses it fairly hard) and will fix body panels if they get dented, but you can still tell it is used off-road by looking a little closer.
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Old 01-28-2015, 03:23 PM   #41
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Would be if I was driving lol
Well anything COULD be a trail rig, if you try hard enough.
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Just let my son drive it, it will experience gravity... after that it will be broke in and ready for anything.
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Old 01-31-2015, 03:25 PM   #45
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Well those who went. How was it?

I've txt 2 people and asked.

I got decent... and it's aight replies.



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Old 01-31-2015, 06:05 PM   #46
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I posted in the offroadohio fb page. Bunch of people with near stock jeeps that ride the unimproved township roads said it was awesome.

Everyone with real trail experience said it was so so.

That's what I exspected.

I saw some pics. Looks like alot of empty space for vendors but I talked to ralph that runs a local park near me. 2500 admission passes sold today.

So maybe next year they can step it up.

Saw a pic of a couple not show quality real rigs. No true monster trucks some jks. A buggy from dirt nasty. And some outlaw mud trucks.

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Old 01-31-2015, 06:42 PM   #47
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Another guy said more show than expo.

My logo and rig made the clay valley booth. :)

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Old 01-31-2015, 09:06 PM   #48
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I thought it was decent and worth the 40 minute trip and $10 to get the family in. The kids probably had a better time than I did because they could sit in the monster truck and all the side x sides. Not a ton of vendors but what I expected for the a first time show. There were a lot of what I consider real-world trail rigs there. Only a few obvious full blow mall crawlers.
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Old 01-31-2015, 09:23 PM   #49
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Old 01-31-2015, 10:14 PM   #50
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Ur not gona be the guy blastin that thing at 4am thru camp are ya?
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