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tinbeater · 04-03-2008, 12:13 AM

Hey Mike. Do you have enough room to mount another 33 over top of the one laying sideways. I like the way that looks.

carwash · 04-03-2008, 12:16 AM

Battery in. El-Cheapo build it yourself, racecar battery tray. Like $12 at the race shop, but perfect for my needs. I needed an outer flange with holes so i could bolt it to the firewall. I wanted a bling optima-specific one from btf or somewhere,but it wouldnt work for what i needed... so i have the ghetto tray.

carwash · 04-03-2008, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tinbeater

Hey Mike. Do you have enough room to mount another 33 over top of the one laying sideways. I like the way that looks.

yes, but would be a ***** to get them out...keep in mind, that will all be paneled, and that bar is 5' off the ground... imma run them vertical i think.

thanks again for the tank, if it wasnt for you, i'd still be dreaming about 43's.

carwash · 04-03-2008, 12:21 AM

Picked up a couple of little BADASS coolers from Summit. I needed a cooler for my PS and for the Trans.(i don't trust the radiator cooler, but i will run both). This little unit is WELL MADE and tight, i love it. Made by Derale. Comes stock with -6 AN fittings, sweet little fan, and any parts you could imagine needing to mount it to whatever kind of hose or line you plan on using...

carwash · 04-03-2008, 12:24 AM

fan pulls 400 CFM, comes with a thermostat and everything...

eighty3bronco · 04-03-2008, 12:25 AM

you could make the larger tanks fit if you cut everything up and make the entire thing longer.... j/k :)
Looking great so far!!!

carwash · 04-03-2008, 12:33 AM

ha, indeed... the last thing i need now is to move backwards... been there done that.

tinbeater · 04-03-2008, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by carwash

yes, but would be a ***** to get them out...keep in mind, that will all be paneled, and that bar is 5' off the ground... imma run them vertical i think.

thanks again for the tank, if it wasnt for you, i'd still be dreaming about 43's.

You are welcome.
You dont have to remove them if you do the filler hose thing like we talking about Sunday. PS. did you get the info. from Rob on the composite tanks?

carwash · 04-03-2008, 01:02 AM

yes i did... may go that route, due to the fear of never knowing how low my fuel is. rob also mentioned digital gauges... what you think of them ?

carwash · 04-03-2008, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinbeater

You are welcome.
You dont have to remove them if you do the filler hose thing like we talking about Sunday. PS. did you get the info. from Rob on the composite tanks?

how would i get a filler hose to that bottom tank with it hidden behind 3 panels and under another tank... i dont want it to be a 3 hour process putting fuel in, ya know.

I do need to build a jumper tho, that's for sure.

94Dodge Truggy · 04-03-2008, 07:59 AM

Run 2 propane tanks on their side in the rear. Driveshafts look niiiiice!

carwash · 04-03-2008, 10:03 AM

2 tanks on their side in the rear is a no go... gonna run them vertical. waiting on my clamps to come...

94Dodge Truggy · 04-03-2008, 11:38 AM

The roll cage will be protecting them and they will be completely inside right? Would hate to have a barbecue without the marshmellows. (the weiner is gonna be driving)

carwash · 04-03-2008, 12:04 PM

the only thing exposed will be the top of the can... and not in harms way.

eighty3bronco · 04-03-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 94Dodge Truggy

(the weiner is gonna be driving)

Now that's funny....HEHE

Sorry couldn't pass that one up.

carwash · 04-03-2008, 07:12 PM

yes, utter genius.

KargoMaster · 04-04-2008, 01:17 AM

wanna scare the **** out of yourself... youTube "BLEVE"

As much as I hate to say it, I wanna see some protection around the tops of those tanks. "Not in harms way" my ass, I remember how you drive.

Hybrid · 04-04-2008, 01:40 AM

That is crazy!

carwash · 04-04-2008, 02:13 AM

only thing hanging out will be the handles... i think that's ok...

carwash · 04-09-2008, 11:07 AM

progress progress progress... my 5 gallon bucket is overflowing into a stinky puddle on the floor....

shots of my 1997 GenV block...

Out with the small, anemic 350, and in with the 454. Did this swap alone, and it sucked. Really should have waited til i had some help. My Mexican shop monkey Coby was on vacation in gulf shores... bastard. Had to remove the tires and lower the axles to get the small block out, then i had to remove the oil pan to get the big block in... ****er is high.

carwash · 04-09-2008, 11:12 AM

My biggest concern was the headers clearing all the necessary parts... motor mounts, frame rails, etc... All went in well, .25" here and there is the tightest there is.

Going to run the pass exhaust across the bottom of oil pan and tie into the driver side, and run 3" all the way back on the one sight. Should be enough. Wold love to run straight duals back, but no room on the pass side.

carwash · 04-09-2008, 11:18 AM

Driveshaft mockup and final install...

When you dont have straps, use duct tape. Black is made specifically for holding the u-joints into a yoke.

With the pillow block sitting directly on the mounting plate, i got an angle of almost 14 degrees, maybe even more than that with the upward tilt of the t-case front output.

What stinks about the whole thing is that i can't get more than 12" of drop out of the passenger side air shock right now before the yoke at the axle binds. Jess at High Angle says i can do a little massaging there, but not much. But with a center limit strap, that will help a little as well... may get up to 16" out of it, who knows... ugh.

carwash · 04-09-2008, 11:25 AM

With the front yoke in the other phase of rotation, it's a little better.

Had to remake my mount plate to account for raising the block. With it up 1 inch, i get the angle down below 11 degrees, which is much better. i will run it like this unless i get intolerable vibration, then i will switch to CV at the output if necessary.

Got some 80 durometer and 95 durometer bushings from MasterCarr. Ran then on each side of the pillow with washers etc. Will have to get some lock nuts for here. Also, anyone know how much to pre-load something like this. how much should i squash them on install?

94Dodge Truggy · 04-09-2008, 11:26 AM

Why not lengthen your upper links a bit to get the axle to rotate in your favor? You must be waiting to put the finish weld on everything when electricity is on a blue light special and the outside temperature is 90+ degrees I guess. I am getting impatient on the completion of your rig and want to see how it stacks up to my samurai.

carwash · 04-09-2008, 11:30 AM

Took delivery on my propane parts...

MM450x and all the fixin's....

It has now come to my attention that i will need a low rise intake for my 454... the hood wont clear with the mixer on it. Well, it clears barely, but no room for an air cleaner. And sure would be susceptible to some serious damage in a rollover.

Serpentine belt system i got off ebay...

paid way too much for it, in fact, more than i paid for my 1997 GenV motor which had the serp setup still on it. ugh.

04-03-2008, 12:16 AM	#152
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	Battery in. El-Cheapo build it yourself, racecar battery tray. Like $12 at the race shop, but perfect for my needs. I needed an outer flange with holes so i could bolt it to the firewall. I wanted a bling optima-specific one from btf or somewhere,but it wouldnt work for what i needed... so i have the ghetto tray. __________________

04-03-2008, 12:21 AM	#154
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	Picked up a couple of little BADASS coolers from Summit. I needed a cooler for my PS and for the Trans.(i don't trust the radiator cooler, but i will run both). This little unit is WELL MADE and tight, i love it. Made by Derale. Comes stock with -6 AN fittings, sweet little fan, and any parts you could imagine needing to mount it to whatever kind of hose or line you plan on using... __________________

04-03-2008, 12:24 AM	#155
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	fan pulls 400 CFM, comes with a thermostat and everything... __________________

04-03-2008, 12:33 AM	#157
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	ha, indeed... the last thing i need now is to move backwards... been there done that. __________________

04-03-2008, 01:02 AM	#159
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	yes i did... may go that route, due to the fear of never knowing how low my fuel is. rob also mentioned digital gauges... what you think of them ? __________________

04-03-2008, 12:13 AM	#151
tinbeater Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Richmond Ohio Posts: 266	Hey Mike. Do you have enough room to mount another 33 over top of the one laying sideways. I like the way that looks.

04-03-2008, 12:25 AM	#156
eighty3bronco anywhere but there Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Blanchester, Oh Posts: 174	you could make the larger tanks fit if you cut everything up and make the entire thing longer.... j/k :) Looking great so far!!!

04-03-2008, 07:59 AM	#161
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	Run 2 propane tanks on their side in the rear. Driveshafts look niiiiice!

04-03-2008, 10:03 AM	#162
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	2 tanks on their side in the rear is a no go... gonna run them vertical. waiting on my clamps to come... __________________

04-03-2008, 11:38 AM	#163
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	The roll cage will be protecting them and they will be completely inside right? Would hate to have a barbecue without the marshmellows. (the weiner is gonna be driving)

04-03-2008, 12:04 PM	#164
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	the only thing exposed will be the top of the can... and not in harms way. __________________

04-03-2008, 07:12 PM	#166
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	yes, utter genius. __________________

04-04-2008, 01:17 AM	#167
KargoMaster Cleaning off the rust... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,009	wanna scare the **** out of yourself... youTube "BLEVE" As much as I hate to say it, I wanna see some protection around the tops of those tanks. "Not in harms way" my ass, I remember how you drive. __________________ brad 5.0L \| 435 \| 203 \| 300 \| 4.10 \| 39.5 Buildup BACK underway...

04-04-2008, 01:40 AM	#168
Hybrid Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fairfield, OH Posts: 134	That is crazy! __________________ '84 Cherokee body welded to an '86 Blazer frame , fuel injected 350, 700r4 trans, np208 t-case, 44 front and a welded 14 bolt in the rear on 35" boggers, radiator in the rear, and a full cage

04-04-2008, 02:13 AM	#169
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	only thing hanging out will be the handles... i think that's ok... __________________

04-09-2008, 11:07 AM	#170
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	progress progress progress... my 5 gallon bucket is overflowing into a stinky puddle on the floor.... shots of my 1997 GenV block... Out with the small, anemic 350, and in with the 454. Did this swap alone, and it sucked. Really should have waited til i had some help. My Mexican shop monkey Coby was on vacation in gulf shores... bastard. Had to remove the tires and lower the axles to get the small block out, then i had to remove the oil pan to get the big block in... ****er is high. __________________

04-09-2008, 11:12 AM	#171
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	My biggest concern was the headers clearing all the necessary parts... motor mounts, frame rails, etc... All went in well, .25" here and there is the tightest there is. Going to run the pass exhaust across the bottom of oil pan and tie into the driver side, and run 3" all the way back on the one sight. Should be enough. Wold love to run straight duals back, but no room on the pass side. __________________

04-09-2008, 11:18 AM	#172
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	Driveshaft mockup and final install... When you dont have straps, use duct tape. Black is made specifically for holding the u-joints into a yoke. With the pillow block sitting directly on the mounting plate, i got an angle of almost 14 degrees, maybe even more than that with the upward tilt of the t-case front output. What stinks about the whole thing is that i can't get more than 12" of drop out of the passenger side air shock right now before the yoke at the axle binds. Jess at High Angle says i can do a little massaging there, but not much. But with a center limit strap, that will help a little as well... may get up to 16" out of it, who knows... ugh. __________________

04-09-2008, 11:25 AM	#173
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	With the front yoke in the other phase of rotation, it's a little better. Had to remake my mount plate to account for raising the block. With it up 1 inch, i get the angle down below 11 degrees, which is much better. i will run it like this unless i get intolerable vibration, then i will switch to CV at the output if necessary. Got some 80 durometer and 95 durometer bushings from MasterCarr. Ran then on each side of the pillow with washers etc. Will have to get some lock nuts for here. Also, anyone know how much to pre-load something like this. how much should i squash them on install? __________________

04-09-2008, 11:26 AM	#174
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	Why not lengthen your upper links a bit to get the axle to rotate in your favor? You must be waiting to put the finish weld on everything when electricity is on a blue light special and the outside temperature is 90+ degrees I guess. I am getting impatient on the completion of your rig and want to see how it stacks up to my samurai.

04-09-2008, 11:30 AM	#175
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	Took delivery on my propane parts... MM450x and all the fixin's.... It has now come to my attention that i will need a low rise intake for my 454... the hood wont clear with the mixer on it. Well, it clears barely, but no room for an air cleaner. And sure would be susceptible to some serious damage in a rollover. Serpentine belt system i got off ebay... paid way too much for it, in fact, more than i paid for my 1997 GenV motor which had the serp setup still on it. ugh. __________________