history of cincyoffroad....

[carwash]

Clark was Katie's last name...

[JeffK5]

I have fond memories of the first time I met the fledgling offroad club CORE..

One of the original members left me and a buddy busted and dangerously hung-up on the starsteps at Livingston... he wanted me to pay him $20 to strap my rig straight so I could back off the ledge... douchebag move.

Some local in a built-ass Ranger saved my ass that day...for free no-less!


I spent the next month bashing CORE till I found the original site.. turns out there where some good guys in that group, I just didn't meet them right away.

I remember Carwash and JeffS ..I think... beating the livin crap out of Jeeps at the top of Gasstation Hill ...absolute riot.

Jeff

[jeepmanjeff]

Wow those were great days. I really miss Livingston. Just now getting back into Wheelin. Tom McNees is close to getting his rig up and capable.

I have been looking for a place like Livingston to wheel at. And have not found one. I dislike Haspin, although I was there 3 weeks ago. I long to be back in the day where I can go out on a weekend and be challenged, and have a great time with friends.

[itbrokeagain]

Wow those were great days. I really miss Livingston. Just now getting back into Wheelin. Tom McNees is close to getting his rig up and capable.

I have been looking for a place like Livingston to wheel at. And have not found one. I dislike Haspin, although I was there 3 weeks ago. I long to be back in the day where I can go out on a weekend and be challenged, and have a great time with friends.

Agree. How could we forget everyone's favorite.......................... Chris Applegate

[67fastback]

hey here is an idea - put up a post of the History to a link of the Group from all this info on the main page.. make it offical!

[94Dodge Truggy]

There are many places within 5 hours from here that will challenge any rig. West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee and Indiana. CORE goes on 4 runs where rock crawling is extreme.

As long as I have been a part of CORE all I have ever witnessed are good people helping when they can. The last few years this club has really grown and the people are great folks!

[GPER]

It makes me want to go through my pictures of Livingston, that place WAS the best.:(

[solar1]

It makes me want to go through my pictures of Livingston, that place WAS the best.:(

I agree. Gotta love the how the Feds finally closed it down using loop holes. You can't even get a vehicle back to the stair steps and pink rock is gone as well.


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[gothodgie]

yea i miss Livingston too... I have some pictures posted on here from when i used to wheeling there back in the mid to late 90s... For 4 or 5 years back then we used to go to Livingston at least 1 a month( 1.39 gas)...

These are probavly from 98...

[carwash]

I agree. Gotta love the how the Feds finally closed it down using loop holes. You can't even get a vehicle back to the stair steps and pink rock is gone as well.


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The feds didn't close anything. Can't "close" a place that was never officially "open" to any kind of offroad activity. 909 is a state/county road. It goes from rt 25 all the way to rt 80. At one time it was a maintained travelled road, evident by such things like the full size schoolbus stranded way back there, etc.

The only place you are "legally" allowed to drive down there, both currently and in the past is on the main road, as it is a county road. Everything off the main road is privately owned land, and therefore you are trespassing. No different than if someone decided to take their jeep and tear up your back yard at your house.

The landowners just looked the other way for years, because it really didn't affect them too much. Until... these landowners decided to let some logging companies come in and do some logging. This was all fine and dandy until all of the million dollar logging equipment started to get vandalized and destroyed. At that point the land owners had no choice but to get the authorities involved.

As more and more land was given up to logging, it became necessary to smoothe the areas out even more, such as pink rock now being a "paved" road.

It's sad to pull in there now and see it the way it is. I miss those trails. They were our stomping grounds for years. Big Wally, Falcon's Ridge, the Playground, Ghost Hill, the Notches, the Coal Chutes, etc. It was Livingston that made me fall deep in love with wheeling.

[blazerbrad]

Logging causes us to lose a lot of trails also. One of the problems we have is that we run legal township roads that are unmaintained and therefore pretty rough, but then the loggers come in with a bulldozer and gravel trucks and now it 's a two lane road you could run in a Civic.

I also find it ironic that people have a fit about the offroad guys tearing up the woods with a two track road that you can't even see in an aerial photo, but it's okay for the loggers to come in and make a 50 square acre area look like the center of a napalm strike. They never do this anywhere close to a paved or gravel road where the general public could see it......they always do nice select cut timbering and clean up after themselves in these areas, but travel back on a rough trail and we come across these barren landscapes with piles of stumps all over the place. I understand the loggers are just doing their job, so this is more geared to the anti-fourwheeling people.

[sarge]

A few weeks ago I had to go to South Carolina for work and on the way down 75 I just couldn't resist stopping at the 49er and then going up the main trail ......



This was were we used to camp along the main trail on the left just past pink rock ( which is completly gone now ) .

I miss the big trips down there , been a few times over the last few years , we have been wheeling at a place that connects to 909 called Sand Springs , but it is just not the same....

[Redriverranger]

There was some very big private money involved with the closure and reclamation of Livingston. I met one of the major financers and she was definitely anti everything except for minnows and crawfish.

[jeepmanjeff]

Is Red River Gorge still available to wheel where we all did before?

[94Dodge Truggy]

Is Red River Gorge still available to wheel where we all did before?

Not all of it but still alot to play with. Booth's property is by invite only. I will be headed down there the sunday after thanksgiving to wheel if you are interested.