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JeepHD 12-12-2007 08:58 AM

"THE HEEP" Buildup (SOA, 3/4 axles, Stak, Hi-steer)
 
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Heep of money + Heep of time + Heep of parts = Heep of fun

Build consists of the following:

- Front Axle -Swap out D30 aussie locked for a HP D44 with OX locker - Clean up, install High steer, install 1350 Yoke, , new ball joints, Chromoly shafts w/superjoints.
- Rear Axle - Swap out Ford 8.8 open for a D60 with Detroit - Cleaned up and convert to disc brakes, Install 1350 Yoke
- Tires and Rims - H1 rims and set of 37-38 inch tires, looking for TSL SX, Boggers, or IROKs
-Transfer Case - Swap out the NP231 for Stak4x4 4.3:1 case
- Suspension - Swap out the 3.5 lift springs for a SOA setup, for a Stock YJ & Superlift replacement hybrid pack.
- Modify tub and fenders to to accept TJ flares to add more clearance for larger tires

Picture as purchased in early 2006
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Picture after first build, Spring 2006
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Picture as of 12/11/07 progress (trying to figure out what tire size to go with)
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Buildup Suggestions Thread - http://www.cincyoffroad.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1027

94Dodge Truggy 12-12-2007 09:00 AM

Looks improved! 37" irocs is what I would run.:)

JeepHD 12-12-2007 09:01 AM

Pics of tires
 
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Trying to get an idea on tire size. Pictured are 36x12.5x16.5 hummer tires and 37x12.50x16.5 Iroks that were borrowed from friend
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TSLs arrived

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JeepHD 12-12-2007 09:05 AM

Stak Transfer case and NV3550
 
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Pics of the 2 speed Stak Transfer case. Transfer case was ordered with:
- Drivers side drop
- 4.3:1 gears
- 1350 front yoke
- 1350 rear flange
- Vehicle Speed Sensor
- Pinion brake
www.stak4x4.com

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NV3550 that was rebuilt a couple years ago, but has less than 100 miles on it.
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Stak Test fitted to NV3550
Out of curiosity I weighed these. Stak weighed in at 130 lbs, NV3550 with bellhousing weighed in at 105 lbs.
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Transmission and Stak are installed except for the shifters for the Stak. Everything went fairly well after I figured out how I wanted it clocked. Case is big and has eliminated my plans to run a flat skid for now.
Stak came in missing the calipers for the pinion brake, so I need to call on that today

Installed Stak

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JeepHD 12-12-2007 09:19 AM

Front Axle
 
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High Pinon Dana 44 (HPD44) front out of a 1978-1979 Ford F-250.

Stock factory perches are used, but I ground hole for spring pin about a 1/2 inch toward center on both sides.

Specs an Parts Used:
OX locker
4.10 gears
Chromoly shafts & Superjoints from Yukon Gear - www.machinewave.com
New Spicer ball joints - www.shakerbuilt.com
High steer - www.kozoffroad.com
1 ton TREs - www.kozoffroad.com
DOM tubing for tie rod and drag link
1350 Yoke - http://www.highangledriveline.com/
U-bolts used - (3) 5/8 x 2 3/4 x 10 (1) 5/8 x 3 1/4 x 10 - www.ruffstuffspecialties.com
u-bolt plates - www.ruffstuffspecialties.com

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I need to grind part of the perch to fit ubolts on correctly as you can see in pics. It is just mocked up and u-bolts just finger tight.
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Added a couple more pics 2/17/08

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JeepHD 12-12-2007 10:10 AM

Rear Axle
 
D60 out of a 1978-1979 Ford F-250 or F-350

This was a pretty easy swap. Stock perches need to be ground off and new ones welded on to fit Jeep application. Pinion angle needs to be set according to angle of transfer case and type of driveshaft running.

Parts Used:
U-bolts - (4) 5/8 x 3 1/4 x 10 www.ruffstuffspecialties.com
U-bolt plates - www.ruffstuffspecialties.com
Spring Perches - www.ruffstuffspecialties.com
Disc brake brackets - www.greatlakeoffrad.com
1350 Yoke - www.shakerbuilt.com
Disc brakes - 1975 Chevy 3/4 ton calipers and rotors
New Seals

JeepHD 12-12-2007 10:14 AM

Suspension
 
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With the axle swap I am converting to a Spring Over Axle (SOA) setup.

Rear - I used two main leafs from a superlift 1.5" replacement spring pack with the smaller leafs from the stock springs

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Front - I used stock YJ packs but I took a main leaf from another pack and cut the eyes off and added it below the main leaf

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JeepHD 12-12-2007 10:14 AM

Steering
 
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Few pics of the Hi-Steer so far.

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JeepHD 12-12-2007 10:15 AM

Tire and Rim Information / TJ flare conversion
 
I will be running 38 x 12.50 x 16.5 TSLs on H1 8 bolt hummer rims 8.25 x 16.5

35 lbs - H1 rim only(no beadlock or runflat)
47 lbs - H1 rim with complete runflat
41 lbs - H1 rim with beadlock (runflat cut off)
12 lbs - Runflat
6 lbs - Beadlock only (runflat portion cut off)
73 lbs - TSL only
114 lbs - Tire, rim & beadlock
456 lbs - (4) tires and rims

H1 Info thread - http://www.cincyoffroad.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1329
Tire Choice thread - http://www.cincyoffroad.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1293
Another Tire Choice thread - http://www.cincyoffroad.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1256

94Dodge Truggy 12-12-2007 10:55 AM

Nice info. Where do you plan on wheeling in 2008?

JeepHD 12-12-2007 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 94Dodge Truggy (Post 9607)
Nice info. Where do you plan on wheeling in 2008?

Badlands, Windrock, and Lost Valley are definites. Possibly Hillznhollarz or Redbird and whatever else comes up. Wouldn't mine going back to Harlan and BigRock(NOW CLOSED) as well, but that would probably be pushing it.

I plan to continue adding details, pics, and any other details as I get things done.

JeepHD 12-12-2007 11:13 AM

Left message with Stak this morning before they were open and they promptly called me back and are shipping the missing caliper. The good customer service I have heard about is holding true!

JeepHD 12-21-2007 03:19 PM

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Stak came thru with the missing caliper bracket a couple days after the call.

Ordered (4) 38x12.5x16.5 TSLs today.

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Haven't really done anything to it lately.

JeepHD 01-07-2008 09:30 PM

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Progress is slow, but getting a lot of small things done. H1 Runflats are cut of and beadlock ring is ground smooth. Sandblasted and painted front axle hub and steering arm parts. Should be able to get the front axle put together quickly and permanently installed.

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MrShoeBoy 01-07-2008 10:00 PM

If you dont already have plans for it, add some type of support at the back of the Stak. I have a 3 speed Stak in my MJ and at first it scared me just having the Stak hanging off the back of the tranny but after talking to them and getting something to help support it, I feel better. Also theres no way to get a flat belly with out a super tall body lift or hacking the crap out of the tub. I chose to hack the crap out of my body to get a semi flat skid :D Looks good by the way :cool:

AARON

JeepHD 01-07-2008 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrShoeBoy (Post 10105)
If you dont already have plans for it, add some type of support at the back of the Stak. I have a 3 speed Stak in my MJ and at first it scared me just having the Stak hanging off the back of the tranny but after talking to them and getting something to help support it, I feel better. Also theres no way to get a flat belly with out a super tall body lift or hacking the crap out of the tub. I chose to hack the crap out of my body to get a semi flat skid :D Looks good by the way :cool:

AARON

Thanks,

Yeah, I would feel better with a support on the Stak and will do eventually. I just want to get in moving again first. I quickly realized the flat skid wasn't going to happen without some tub changes, which I will probably save for a future project if ever.

MrShoeBoy 01-07-2008 10:29 PM

I hear ya. Do you think you will have any issues with front driveshaft lenght and angles? I cut and rotated the knuckles on my HP 44 when I cut it down but that was with 4" of lift and the NP 231. Now with 6" springs up front and the Stak, my front d-shaft is super short and I am not sure I can get the shaft to run at speed with out destroying the CV or having wicked vibes. I would like to see your thoughts on front a driveshaft.

AARON

JeepHD 01-07-2008 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrShoeBoy (Post 10107)
I hear ya. Do you think you will have any issues with front driveshaft lenght and angles? I cut and rotated the knuckles on my HP 44 when I cut it down but that was with 4" of lift and the NP 231. Now with 6" springs up front and the Stak, my front d-shaft is super short and I am not sure I can get the shaft to run at speed with out destroying the CV or having wicked vibes. I would like to see your thoughts on front a driveshaft.

AARON

I am hoping I can run a standard driveshaft in front. Running a CV on rear.

Checked the driveshaft. Front pinion is up at about 5 degrees, Stak is up at about 3 degress. Driveshaft is at 10 degree and will be about 37 inches and drop 7.5 inches from pinion to case. I think it will be ok running a stock driveshaft.

Anyone more knowledgable, please chime in. I can probably get the Stak close to level (0 degrees) if I need to

JeepHD 01-08-2008 01:02 AM

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Pics of my little Jeepers, Well I'm not sure the littlest is quite ready!

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Wish I could keep my Jeep in the living room, I would be able to get it done faster :)

jeepmanjeff 01-08-2008 09:38 PM

Very nice write up.

MrShoeBoy 01-08-2008 11:24 PM

Sounds like you will be fine on the front. I keep forgetting the layout between a YJ and an MJ are that different. Keep up the pictures!

AARON

JeepHD 02-11-2008 10:29 AM

Just thought I would update on progress. The project is still underway, but progress has been slow. I was able to get the last three H1 wheels sandblasted over the weekend. Should have them painted and mounted up this week. Mostly been waiting for my inner Chromoly shafts, when I originally ordered them, I got F-150 instead of F-250 and there was some length differences. Just got a tracking number and I should have them Thursday (Happy Valentines Day to Me). I plan to have the front end together this weekend and have it on all fours. Will post up pictures when I get the treads mounted up and rolling.

carwash 02-11-2008 11:02 AM

you can make your own rear stak support, or buy theirs... it's super nice, notched to slide to any angle etc...

http://www.complete4x4.com/ImageFoli...6buggy_216.jpg

all looking good by the way...

JeepHD 02-15-2008 01:57 PM

How bad will this handle hills with 38s and a stock wheelbase? I will push the front forward an inch and the rear backword and inch, but I doubt that will do much. Might be able to get 2 inches out of the front. Is it worth trying to get the extra inch.

94Dodge Truggy 02-15-2008 02:54 PM

I would definitely support the stak case and keep the stock trans mount also. I would hate to break the stak off of the tranny! Minimize your driveshaft angle and your u-joints will thank you later on!


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