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Old 09-04-2008, 09:03 AM   #1
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I've been telling people (CORE members) for years to put your time and efforts into doing a clean up and giving back to keep trails open.... But to waste your time to clean up a private park that you pay to ride in is dumb! Is it worth it for free admisson to one of the worst places to ride? Not to say it should be trashed but when you deal with the type of people who frequent Haspin what do the you expect!


I guess you can be told till hell freezes over! But you should spend your time and efforts as a club in cleaning up public lands and try to keep them open for future generations. They are closing at an alarming rate! Tellico, Slade etc...As long as I have seen the club up and running I have never once seen a real effort in doing anything to help out with this. As long I have known about the club I have heard and seen stories of damage (AKA SLADE) that members of CORE have been involved in over the years.:mad:



Yes, you put on a charity event once a year!


This is not meant to be a total kick in the balls but there are members now that have no idea what has gone on over the past years.
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Old 09-04-2008, 09:30 AM   #2
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I've been telling people (CORE members) for years to put your time and efforts into doing a clean up and giving back to keep trails open.... But to waste your time to clean up a private park that you pay to ride in is dumb! Is it worth it for free admisson to one of the worst places to ride? Not to say it should be trashed but when you deal with the type of people who frequent Haspin what do the you expect!


I guess you can be told till hell freezes over! But you should spend your time and efforts as a club in cleaning up public lands and try to keep them open for future generations. They are closing at an alarming rate! Tellico, Slade etc...As long as I have seen the club up and running I have never once seen a real effort in doing anything to help out with this. As long I have known about the club I have heard and seen stories of damage (AKA SLADE) that members of CORE have been involved in over the years.:mad:



Yes, you put on a charity event once a year!


This is not meant to be a total kick in the balls but there are members now that have no idea what has gone on over the past years.
What about the core members who participated in the local river cleanup? Last 4 years of wheeling with CORE we have left the areas cleaner than they were and helped other wheelers in all types of situations on the trail. If others did the same things would be better.
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Old 09-04-2008, 09:37 AM   #3
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Oh I've heard many stories of the past. I've also heard of instances but when I ask for details no one will provide them. How long did it take for the perception of CORE to be where it is today? Where all members of CORE are lumped into one general bucket of expectation of attitude and style? Is it realistic to think that could be changed in a brief period of time? Small changes are made and the ripples are felt. Then larger changes can be made.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:53 AM   #4
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I've been telling people (CORE members) for years to put your time and efforts into doing a clean up and giving back to keep trails open.... But to waste your time to clean up a private park that you pay to ride in is dumb! Is it worth it for free admisson to one of the worst places to ride? Not to say it should be trashed but when you deal with the type of people who frequent Haspin what do the you expect!


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Ive been a member of core for years now (4 i beleive ) and i have never heard any suggestions coming from you about anything as a matter of fact i have never seen or met you so let me take this opportunity to introduce myself. Well anyway when people suggest something it is mearly to advise of an opportunity to hopefully do some good for someone. You are intitled to your opinion but i have yet to read a positive one from you. So with that said there is a new batch of people trying to have some fun and do some good wherever possible. Now i know for some people change is not welcome but us as club members will deal with that as it comes up. Now to what has gone on in the past it is useless without names to see if these people still exist as core members or just board junkies. So on that note the past is exactly that so to the people who would like to attend any function for any reason i suggest do and have fun and remember people are watching so be responsible. Thanks for my chance to rant and as usual comments and productive criticism are very welcome but be prepared for an applicable response
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:26 PM   #5
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my comments were in no way in regard or reference to the original poster, was merely stating how i felt about a clean up at a private "pay to play" park, with no basis for or against the club happenings.

there will always be bad apples, in every club, every time. you just need more good apples than bad, to make the bushel look desirable.
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Old 09-04-2008, 01:51 PM   #6
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Never heard any of the bad things from the past about CORE, but the current group seems to be responsible and have things headed in the right direction.

I think it's a good thing to clean up Haspin, even if it's private. The place is a disgrace to the 4x4 community in regards to trash and erosion. Whether it's public or private, it still makes us look bad. If they can go in there, clean up the trash at least, and get a free day of riding, I commend them. Would their efforts make more of a difference somewhere else? Possibly, but that doesn't mean Haspin shouldn't be cleaned up.
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