FRAME REPAIR?? pics

mckeddie · 11-12-2008, 10:15 PM

that is VERY common for them to rust there. chop it and fish plate it. i'd check the rear spider gears, they are notorious for that too. it definitely isn't safe as is though, use that as a bargaining point to get him to lower that price, you will lose the rear spring like that trying to drive it as is. simple fix to someone that can weld, but a HUGE expensive looking problem to 99% of the people out there. i wouldn't hesitate on it for under $1000.

sickws6 · 11-12-2008, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mckeddie

that is VERY common for them to rust there. chop it and fish plate it. i'd check the rear spider gears, they are notorious for that too. it definitely isn't safe as is though, use that as a bargaining point to get him to lower that price, you will lose the rear spring like that trying to drive it as is. simple fix to someone that can weld, but a HUGE expensive looking problem to 99% of the people out there. i wouldn't hesitate on it for under $1000.

Sorry for my ignorance what do you mean by fish plate?

sarge · 11-12-2008, 11:55 PM

I'd buy everyone I could get for that price with that kind of frame rot !!! very easy fix . The rear ..... well it's a D-35 with 4.10's ( a dime a dozen ) . All the AX-5's shift alittle funny ( grind , hard shift when cold ..... ) .

Buy it , fix it , and wheel it or sell it and put some money in your pocket for the next one.

Just google fish plate .... I don't feel like explaining it , but it's simple.

You can sell the hard doors for half the purchase price !!

carwash · 11-13-2008, 01:34 AM

only thing that would keep me from buying it is the motor. the frame is an easy fix.

don't drive it home, tow it. use that as a bargaining point as well. it's not road safe in its current state.

sickws6 · 11-13-2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by carwash

only thing that would keep me from buying it is the motor. the frame is an easy fix.

don't drive it home, tow it. use that as a bargaining point as well. it's not road safe in its current state.

Does anyone want to make a few bucks and tow it for me? IT is in houston ohio which is bout 75 miles north of Hamilton. I am unfortunate enough to not have a tow vehicle.

94Dodge Truggy · 11-13-2008, 10:48 AM

I may be able to tow it for ya. How much $ are we talkin? My diesel gets bad mileage!

JeepHD · 11-13-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sickws6

Does anyone want to make a few bucks and tow it for me? IT is in houston ohio which is bout 75 miles north of Hamilton. I am unfortunate enough to not have a tow vehicle.

That is literally right across the road from me. I will be traveling to the Lebanon/Red Lion area several times next week. I can get it to there for you for reasonable amount, not sure if I can get it to your home because I will have another employee with me each day.

I checked it out. Definetely needs the frame repair and probably a new rear end. Just pick up another D35 with 4.10s and swap it in or an 8.8 with 4.10s If you keep the D35, keep the shafts out of the current for spares.

I'll PM you my info.

jfiscus · 11-13-2008, 03:34 PM

I can tow it if you can cover gas + whatever extra we work out.
I live in Middletown so I'm not too far from ya.

513-317-2314 Call me this evening & we'll work something out.
I'm looking for a torpedo heater if you can get ahold of one?

itbrokeagain · 11-13-2008, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mckeddie

that is VERY common for them to rust there. .

???? Mine hasnt had any problems. I have never seen frame rot like that on a YJ.

cincygman · 11-13-2008, 09:09 PM

My buddy had a CJ rust out just like that back in 1978 (yeah, I'm an old fart) we found out it was rusted when the shackle ripped loose going up a hill and punched through the gas tank. It was an easy fix once back at home, some box tubing and about six hours of cutting, drilling, welding then just like new or better

sickws6 · 11-13-2008, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cincygman

My buddy had a CJ rust out just like that back in 1978 (yeah, I'm an old fart) we found out it was rusted when the shackle ripped loose going up a hill and punched through the gas tank. It was an easy fix once back at home, some box tubing and about six hours of cutting, drilling, welding then just like new or better

yep! it will take a few hours of metal work!

acousticrawk · 11-14-2008, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by itbrokeagain

???? Mine hasnt had any problems. I have never seen frame rot like that on a YJ.

i concur. CJ's used to rot back there bad, but i have never seen a YJ rot like that. even a salt belt YJ. i have done several repairs like that on CJ's. just completely cut the rear of the frame off, buy some .25 wall or bigger (if you want) rectangle stock thats the same size as the frame, tac it, get it good and straight, then weld it to the existing frame. once your done with that, grind the welds, and fishplate. now is a good time to move your shackle hangers under the frame too. about 25 bucks worth of shackle hangers? and it will give you a little lift in the rear. MAKE SURE to paint it all when your done to help prevent it from happening again. take less than a day to do both sides from my experiance, with 2 people or so. good luck, keep us updated.

KargoMaster · 11-14-2008, 09:24 AM

Have to admit, I was thinking the same as Tony... haven't seen YJ rot like that...

Congrats on the purchase... Fix, upgrade, break, repeat.

blazerbrad · 11-14-2008, 11:50 AM

I'm not a Jeep guy but the frame rot in that spot on YJ's seems fairly common, and I know of a couple of guys who have had to fix this issue.

Here is a picture from a YJ that 78Buford bought awhile back....look familiar?:

78Buford · 02-04-2009, 01:52 PM

Yes, this thread is multiple months old...just saw it a few minutes ago. As common as YJ's with rotten frames are, I doubt this will be the last time this thread is viewed.

There are a few other pictures of the rot and the repair at the bottom of this page:

http://ohio4x4.fourwardmomentum.com/...?t=4885&page=2

Roy

GPER · 02-04-2009, 05:11 PM

Jeep frames are thin, if I had it to do over I would have built my own frame. Since the one I have is a 1/4 inch it should last a long while. I don't think it would be too hard to build one.

11-12-2008, 10:15 PM	#1
mckeddie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: van wert oh Posts: 583	that is VERY common for them to rust there. chop it and fish plate it. i'd check the rear spider gears, they are notorious for that too. it definitely isn't safe as is though, use that as a bargaining point to get him to lower that price, you will lose the rear spring like that trying to drive it as is. simple fix to someone that can weld, but a HUGE expensive looking problem to 99% of the people out there. i wouldn't hesitate on it for under $1000. __________________ zuk buggy.....it'll be a jeep eventually.

11-13-2008, 01:34 AM	#4
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	only thing that would keep me from buying it is the motor. the frame is an easy fix. don't drive it home, tow it. use that as a bargaining point as well. it's not road safe in its current state. __________________

11-13-2008, 10:48 AM	#6
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	I may be able to tow it for ya. How much $ are we talkin? My diesel gets bad mileage! __________________

11-13-2008, 09:09 PM	#10
cincygman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Pleasant Run Farms (near Fairfield) Posts: 378	My buddy had a CJ rust out just like that back in 1978 (yeah, I'm an old fart) we found out it was rusted when the shackle ripped loose going up a hill and punched through the gas tank. It was an easy fix once back at home, some box tubing and about six hours of cutting, drilling, welding then just like new or better __________________ Romans 7-8

11-14-2008, 09:24 AM	#13
KargoMaster Cleaning off the rust... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,009	Have to admit, I was thinking the same as Tony... haven't seen YJ rot like that... Congrats on the purchase... Fix, upgrade, break, repeat. __________________ brad 5.0L \| 435 \| 203 \| 300 \| 4.10 \| 39.5 Buildup BACK underway...

11-12-2008, 11:55 PM	#3
sarge Pure Bacon Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trenton, Oh Posts: 1,098	I'd buy everyone I could get for that price with that kind of frame rot !!! very easy fix . The rear ..... well it's a D-35 with 4.10's ( a dime a dozen ) . All the AX-5's shift alittle funny ( grind , hard shift when cold ..... ) . Buy it , fix it , and wheel it or sell it and put some money in your pocket for the next one. Just google fish plate .... I don't feel like explaining it , but it's simple. You can sell the hard doors for half the purchase price !!

11-13-2008, 03:34 PM	#8
jfiscus Terrain Stomper Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Crittenden, KY Posts: 633	I can tow it if you can cover gas + whatever extra we work out. I live in Middletown so I'm not too far from ya. 513-317-2314 Call me this evening & we'll work something out. I'm looking for a torpedo heater if you can get ahold of one?

11-14-2008, 11:50 AM	#14
blazerbrad - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 831 Images: 6	I'm not a Jeep guy but the frame rot in that spot on YJ's seems fairly common, and I know of a couple of guys who have had to fix this issue. Here is a picture from a YJ that 78Buford bought awhile back....look familiar?:

02-04-2009, 01:52 PM	#15
78Buford Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 50	Yes, this thread is multiple months old...just saw it a few minutes ago. As common as YJ's with rotten frames are, I doubt this will be the last time this thread is viewed. There are a few other pictures of the rot and the repair at the bottom of this page: http://ohio4x4.fourwardmomentum.com/...?t=4885&page=2 Roy __________________ Large: 1978 Ford F-250 469 V-8 on Propane C6, NP-205, 4.10's, 42" TSL's on 15x8's D60: Detroit, 35 spline Alloy Shafts w/ Longfield Superjoints, Dedenbear Knuckles, Drive Flanges. 1410 Driveshafts, D70-U Welded, 12K Winch, A-6 OBA, Rapid Weight Loss, Personality www.ohio4x4.com Medium: 2009 Yamaha Grizzly 700 Fuel Injection, Power Steering, Diff-Lock, 27" Tires, 5K Winch Small: 1993 Suzuki DR350 S Last edited by 78Buford; 02-04-2009 at 03:01 PM.

02-04-2009, 05:11 PM	#16
GPER Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 811	Jeep frames are thin, if I had it to do over I would have built my own frame. Since the one I have is a 1/4 inch it should last a long while. I don't think it would be too hard to build one.