thinking about a new build

sarge · 06-10-2009, 03:53 PM

I found an old military flatty the other day that still runs and drives ( not that the motor matters to me ) and the tub is in really good shape. It has started the gear turning.

I have the following
- TPI 4.3 / 700r4 / 231 just waiting to go into something
- a set of 1/2 ton full size chevy axles
-an extra set a suspension seats
-a couple hundred feet of DOM
-a pile of extra YJ leafs
and prob. a bunch more stuff sitting around that could be put in a nice street/trail rig .

I was thinking something along the lines of this :

thinking that I might drag it home in a few weeks and see what I can get my self into

GPER · 06-10-2009, 04:26 PM

Before you cut it up, remember what the one one Barret Jackson sold for.

sarge · 06-10-2009, 05:13 PM

it's not worth it ! the tub is in good shape but not perfect , in fact the whole jeep is in darn good shape but it will never be a candidate for a pro-resto . I would rather do an off road resto-mod to it. will it piss some of the die hard Willies guy off ? yep , but I don't care

Bear Chow · 06-10-2009, 05:22 PM

I've always wanted one for a daily driver. I know it's a kind of self punshiment thing. With a top speed of about 45 MPH. And 0-45 in just over a mile. Heck I currently ride 230cc dirt back 40 miles a day and I love the fact that at 55 it's top speed cars start lining up behind me and all I can think is I'm going the speed limit.

I hate show cars, put it back on the road where it belongs, maintain it and enjoy it.

If you have a title and are consider selling it send me a PM.

Paul

KargoMaster · 06-10-2009, 05:29 PM

Do it!!

That thing's frickin' SWEET!

drmeece · 06-10-2009, 05:29 PM

That one is pretty cool

sarge · 06-10-2009, 05:38 PM

Yeah ! I think I'm gonna do . I know the guy and he is giving me a more then great price on the jeep. In a week we are heading to the lake for a much needed vacation and then I think I'll start getting everything planned and gathered up.

There is another one floating around on pirate on tons , linked w/air shocks that is tits I just can't find it .... or maybe the above pic is it pre links ????

acousticrawk · 06-10-2009, 08:18 PM

whatever you do, i could help you fund it buy buying ome of your YJ leafs off you. i need 4 stock packs, if not, goodluck none the less and i cant wait to see what you do to it.

GPER · 06-10-2009, 08:55 PM

There is one kind of like the one in the picture that goes to the cruise in in Kettering but it is more of the sand dune runner.

carwash · 06-10-2009, 10:34 PM

the lead mechanic at the Badlands used to wheel one on tons, rear steer too. he probably still wheels it, used to have some pics... will try to dig one up.

Hope Springs Hauler · 06-10-2009, 11:14 PM

Are your axles and t-case matched (pass side vs drivers side?)

Other than that question, it would be sarges' SARGE

FN Sweet

JET455 · 06-11-2009, 12:20 AM

I would not use full size axles I would keep it little narrower like a set if wide track waggy axles. I was collecting parts for this type of build and have a set of J-30 D60 and D44 eight lug axles. You do not want to be to wide on a build like this casue you will be as wide as you are long unless you do a stretch? Even a 60" wide waggy axle is alot on a flatty.

I think you are taking the Sarge thing a little to far this time......nah!

94Dodge Truggy · 06-11-2009, 07:44 AM

That is a really nice looking rig! Build it and they will come.

Coppertop · 06-11-2009, 07:21 PM

Good looking rig... Reminds of the TV show (Ratt Patrol)

Machine guns and Jeeps always a good combo.

Nick

redcj3a · 06-11-2009, 07:58 PM

Sarge,

That is a sweet looking rig. Good luck on the build if you go that route. Also, keep me in mind when you pull the stock engine out.

John

sarge · 06-12-2009, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hope Springs Hauler

Are your axles and t-case matched (pass side vs drivers side?)

Other than that question, it would be sarges' SARGE

FN Sweet

no the 231 is Drivers Drop . I was at first thinking of putting a 300 in it to correct this but , I'm now thinking I may just run a HP30/8.8 and maybe keep tire size down to 33-34 ..... I know I will change my mind 100 times before I even get started , just wanted to get some input and brainstorm alittle.

WrenchMonkey · 06-12-2009, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarge

I'm now thinking I may just run a HP30/8.8 and maybe keep tire size down to 33-34 .... just wanted to get some input and brainstorm alittle.

Unless you're really planning to beat it, the 30/88 would be fine on 35s, especially on a light little flattie. That's definitely the way I'd go.

There's some input for ya!

Robert

sarge · 06-12-2009, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrenchMonkey

Unless you're really planning to beat it, the 30/88 would be fine on 35s, especially on a light little flattie. That's definitely the way I'd go.

There's some input for ya!

Robert

Oh I know they will hold up ! I beat the crap out of the YJ with the set up on 36's

thanks for the input though!

kyrel69 · 06-12-2009, 01:52 PM

sweet idea keep us all posted

blazerbrad · 06-12-2009, 04:26 PM

One of the guys in our club.

It's what I would consider a resto-mod, looks pretty stock with the exception of the tires and winch. It has a 3.8L Buick V-6 with the stock 3-speed trans, t-case, and stock axles with Lock-rights and disc brakes. Also was converted to power steering and has OBA. 2.5" lift springs with 33" bias ply Buckshots. Older 8274 and a cage complete the package.

It's been a work in progress for 10 years but with the exception of the tires and wheels it still looks the same. When he originally built/restored it still had all of the stock drivetrain with the exception of the lockers and used stock steel wheels with old school 30" mud and snows.

Yes, he periodically breaks axles both front and rear but he really know how hard he can push it before they break.

The guy is an excellent driver and gets all he can out of this little thing (his driving skill lets him keep up with much more built rigs). Don't think he wants to go any further in regards to building it as he likes the looks of it, but he originally built it to wheel, not to take to shows. About 1 minute after the above picture he laid it on the side, but by the next ride you couldn't tell.

06-10-2009, 03:53 PM	#1
sarge Pure Bacon Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trenton, Oh Posts: 1,098	thinking about a new build I found an old military flatty the other day that still runs and drives ( not that the motor matters to me ) and the tub is in really good shape. It has started the gear turning. I have the following - TPI 4.3 / 700r4 / 231 just waiting to go into something - a set of 1/2 ton full size chevy axles -an extra set a suspension seats -a couple hundred feet of DOM -a pile of extra YJ leafs and prob. a bunch more stuff sitting around that could be put in a nice street/trail rig . I was thinking something along the lines of this : thinking that I might drag it home in a few weeks and see what I can get my self into

06-10-2009, 05:29 PM	#5
KargoMaster Cleaning off the rust... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,009	Do it!! That thing's frickin' SWEET! __________________ brad 5.0L \| 435 \| 203 \| 300 \| 4.10 \| 39.5 Buildup BACK underway...

06-10-2009, 05:29 PM	#6
drmeece Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amelia Ohio Posts: 136	That one is pretty cool __________________ I got a jeep

06-10-2009, 08:18 PM	#8
acousticrawk The MacDaddy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Price Hill, (Cincinnati) Posts: 63	whatever you do, i could help you fund it buy buying ome of your YJ leafs off you. i need 4 stock packs, if not, goodluck none the less and i cant wait to see what you do to it. __________________ http://springfieldohiojeepers.freeforums.org/index.php

06-10-2009, 10:34 PM	#10
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	the lead mechanic at the Badlands used to wheel one on tons, rear steer too. he probably still wheels it, used to have some pics... will try to dig one up. __________________

06-10-2009, 04:26 PM	#2
GPER Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 811	Before you cut it up, remember what the one one Barret Jackson sold for.

06-10-2009, 05:13 PM	#3
sarge Pure Bacon Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trenton, Oh Posts: 1,098	it's not worth it ! the tub is in good shape but not perfect , in fact the whole jeep is in darn good shape but it will never be a candidate for a pro-resto . I would rather do an off road resto-mod to it. will it piss some of the die hard Willies guy off ? yep , but I don't care

06-10-2009, 05:22 PM	#4
Bear Chow Jeepless Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oxford, Oh Posts: 302	I've always wanted one for a daily driver. I know it's a kind of self punshiment thing. With a top speed of about 45 MPH. And 0-45 in just over a mile. Heck I currently ride 230cc dirt back 40 miles a day and I love the fact that at 55 it's top speed cars start lining up behind me and all I can think is I'm going the speed limit. I hate show cars, put it back on the road where it belongs, maintain it and enjoy it. If you have a title and are consider selling it send me a PM. Paul

06-10-2009, 05:38 PM	#7
sarge Pure Bacon Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trenton, Oh Posts: 1,098	Yeah ! I think I'm gonna do . I know the guy and he is giving me a more then great price on the jeep. In a week we are heading to the lake for a much needed vacation and then I think I'll start getting everything planned and gathered up. There is another one floating around on pirate on tons , linked w/air shocks that is tits I just can't find it .... or maybe the above pic is it pre links ????

06-10-2009, 08:55 PM	#9
GPER Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 811	There is one kind of like the one in the picture that goes to the cruise in in Kettering but it is more of the sand dune runner.

06-10-2009, 11:14 PM	#11
Hope Springs Hauler Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 431 Images: 16	Are your axles and t-case matched (pass side vs drivers side?) Other than that question, it would be sarges' SARGE FN Sweet __________________ 1988 Suzuki Samurai on propane FJ 40 axles (4.10) 5.14 tcase 36" TSL SX

06-11-2009, 12:20 AM	#12
JET455 Your wifes pimp! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Everywhere!!!!!! Posts: 548	I would not use full size axles I would keep it little narrower like a set if wide track waggy axles. I was collecting parts for this type of build and have a set of J-30 D60 and D44 eight lug axles. You do not want to be to wide on a build like this casue you will be as wide as you are long unless you do a stretch? Even a 60" wide waggy axle is alot on a flatty. I think you are taking the Sarge thing a little to far this time......nah! __________________ if i am not currently offending you, i will be shortly.

06-11-2009, 07:44 AM	#13
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	That is a really nice looking rig! Build it and they will come. __________________

06-11-2009, 07:21 PM	#14
Coppertop XJWHEELING Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Colerain Township Posts: 837	Good looking rig... Reminds of the TV show (Ratt Patrol) Machine guns and Jeeps always a good combo. Nick __________________ Just a 200 dollar cherokee that wouldn't start .. Ten years later same chrome grille ..

06-11-2009, 07:58 PM	#15
redcj3a Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Middletown Posts: 118	Sarge, That is a sweet looking rig. Good luck on the build if you go that route. Also, keep me in mind when you pull the stock engine out. John __________________ 1950 CJ3A. Oddfire 225 V6, T-86 transmission, Dana 18 transfer case, 4 wheel disc brakes, locked front and rear. Manual saginaw steering. Warn winch, 9,000#.

06-12-2009, 01:52 PM	#19
kyrel69 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Middletown, Ohio Posts: 372	sweet idea keep us all posted

06-12-2009, 04:26 PM	#20
blazerbrad - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 831 Images: 6	One of the guys in our club. It's what I would consider a resto-mod, looks pretty stock with the exception of the tires and winch. It has a 3.8L Buick V-6 with the stock 3-speed trans, t-case, and stock axles with Lock-rights and disc brakes. Also was converted to power steering and has OBA. 2.5" lift springs with 33" bias ply Buckshots. Older 8274 and a cage complete the package. It's been a work in progress for 10 years but with the exception of the tires and wheels it still looks the same. When he originally built/restored it still had all of the stock drivetrain with the exception of the lockers and used stock steel wheels with old school 30" mud and snows. Yes, he periodically breaks axles both front and rear but he really know how hard he can push it before they break. The guy is an excellent driver and gets all he can out of this little thing (his driving skill lets him keep up with much more built rigs). Don't think he wants to go any further in regards to building it as he likes the looks of it, but he originally built it to wheel, not to take to shows. About 1 minute after the above picture he laid it on the side, but by the next ride you couldn't tell.