hydro on the streets

blazerbrad · 07-16-2009, 08:00 AM

There are lots of variables in how the systems are set up that affect how they feel on the street. In general though hydro-assist should make very little difference on street handling unless you have a big cylinder which tends to slow it down some. I personally have hydro-assist and while it doesn't get much street time the only time I've ever noticed it was when trying to quickly turn the wheel to make a sharp turn in town with the engine at idle.

jfiscus · 07-16-2009, 09:04 AM

IIRC full hydro is illegal for street driving? I could be wrong on this, & the issue is probably as vague as beadlock laws.

94Dodge Truggy · 07-16-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jfiscus

IIRC full hydro is illegal for street driving? I could be wrong on this, & the issue is probably as vague as beadlock laws.

Yes I have heard that it is illegal.

94Dodge Truggy · 07-16-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by blazerbrad

There are lots of variables in how the systems are set up that affect how they feel on the street. In general though hydro-assist should make very little difference on street handling unless you have a big cylinder which tends to slow it down some. I personally have hydro-assist and while it doesn't get much street time the only time I've ever noticed it was when trying to quickly turn the wheel to make a sharp turn in town with the engine at idle.

I have a hydro assist jeep now and a full hydro as well. The full hydro is a TSC setup and is cheap and has horrible road manners. Assist setup is nice. I ran a complete howe setup on a buggy but never really got to use it on 80 mph highways but it saw 110 mph in a mudhole quite often! Thinking of taping the stock steering box and making a ram assist setup and getting rid of the full hydro single ended ram.

fabricator · 07-16-2009, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 94Dodge Truggy

I have a hydro assist jeep now and a full hydro as well. The full hydro is a TSC setup and is cheap and has horrible road manners. Assist setup is nice. I ran a complete howe setup on a buggy but never really got to use it on 80 mph highways but it saw 110 mph in a mudhole quite often! Thinking of taping the stock steering box and making a ram assist setup and getting rid of the full hydro single ended ram.

i have tapped box on my junk with assisted hydro
is great for going to the mall
no bump steer or nuthin
what you want for the full hydro junk

94Dodge Truggy · 07-16-2009, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by fabricator

i have tapped box on my junk with assisted hydro
is great for going to the mall
no bump steer or nuthin
what you want for the full hydro junk

Couple bucks.

Danfoss steering valve, plate to bolt up valve and weld to frame, single ended ram, hoses to ram and valve, hoses from and to valve. Yours today for $200.00 2 bills only come and get it

blazerbrad · 07-16-2009, 11:51 AM

Just some random oribital valve and a single sided tractor ram is most likely the absolute worse case you can have in regards to road manners.

Regarding legality, pretty sure there is nothing actually in writing stating specifically that hydraulic steering is illegal. Just like beadlocks... on Pirate4x4 there was a person/vendor offering a cash prize for the first person to reference any state law that specifically stated beadlocks were illegal, and that prize has yet to be claimed after several years.

jamie L · 07-16-2009, 11:58 AM

You know my opinion for the trail, nothing beats full hydro. On the other hand for the road I would make sure your orbital valve has more the three turns on your steering wheel from lock to lock, little scary on the road. I'm not sure what it's called but get one that takes 5-7 turns lock to lock if using on the street.

94Dodge Truggy · 07-16-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jamie L

You know my opinion for the trail, nothing beats full hydro. On the other hand for the road I would make sure your orbital valve has more the three turns on your steering wheel from lock to lock, little scary on the road. I'm not sure what it's called but get one that takes 5-7 turns lock to lock if using on the street.

3.5 lock to lock is common. 5-7 is school bus setup!

humpy · 07-17-2009, 12:41 PM

[QUOTE=blazerbrad;25866]Just some random oribital valve and a single sided tractor ram is most likely the absolute worse case you can have in regards to road manners.

i second that...mine is NOT very streetable past 30mph but on the trail i LOVE IT!!! for under $300 bucks and turnin the wheel with one finger while layin on your side rocks!!

Redriverranger · 07-17-2009, 08:05 PM

I can run 70, but it's best in a straight line. I love the full hydro for my rig, although it is a little quirky on the highway through the curves. I ran hydro assist once before, and it drove great. It removed all the slop from the steering and made it very predictable and was quite strong as well. I damaged the ram and removed it, and ended up full hydro a couple years later.

07-16-2009, 11:58 AM	#8
jamie L Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 43	Full Hydro You know my opinion for the trail, nothing beats full hydro. On the other hand for the road I would make sure your orbital valve has more the three turns on your steering wheel from lock to lock, little scary on the road. I'm not sure what it's called but get one that takes 5-7 turns lock to lock if using on the street. __________________

07-17-2009, 08:05 PM	#11
Redriverranger White ranger guy Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Red river gorge,ky Posts: 274	I can run 70, but it's best in a straight line. I love the full hydro for my rig, although it is a little quirky on the highway through the curves. I ran hydro assist once before, and it drove great. It removed all the slop from the steering and made it very predictable and was quite strong as well. I damaged the ram and removed it, and ended up full hydro a couple years later. __________________ 91 Ranger ext cab, 60, 14 bolt, 4:88's, 39.5's, doubler, lot's of character

07-16-2009, 08:00 AM	#1
blazerbrad - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 831 Images: 6	There are lots of variables in how the systems are set up that affect how they feel on the street. In general though hydro-assist should make very little difference on street handling unless you have a big cylinder which tends to slow it down some. I personally have hydro-assist and while it doesn't get much street time the only time I've ever noticed it was when trying to quickly turn the wheel to make a sharp turn in town with the engine at idle.

07-16-2009, 09:04 AM	#2
jfiscus Terrain Stomper Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Crittenden, KY Posts: 633	IIRC full hydro is illegal for street driving? I could be wrong on this, & the issue is probably as vague as beadlock laws.

07-16-2009, 11:51 AM	#7
blazerbrad - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 831 Images: 6	Just some random oribital valve and a single sided tractor ram is most likely the absolute worse case you can have in regards to road manners. Regarding legality, pretty sure there is nothing actually in writing stating specifically that hydraulic steering is illegal. Just like beadlocks... on Pirate4x4 there was a person/vendor offering a cash prize for the first person to reference any state law that specifically stated beadlocks were illegal, and that prize has yet to be claimed after several years.

07-17-2009, 12:41 PM	#10
humpy Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 573	[QUOTE=blazerbrad;25866]Just some random oribital valve and a single sided tractor ram is most likely the absolute worse case you can have in regards to road manners. i second that...mine is NOT very streetable past 30mph but on the trail i LOVE IT!!! for under $300 bucks and turnin the wheel with one finger while layin on your side rocks!!