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comanchedude · 11-14-2009, 09:13 PM

Learn it. Live it......... :)

Administrative Code 4501-43-04 - Specifications

(A) The horizontal bumper shall be at least 4.5 inches in vertical height, centered on the vehicle's centerline, and extend no less than the width of the respective wheel track distances. Bumpers shall be horizontal load-bearing bumpers attached to the vehicle frame to effectively transfer impact when engaged.

(B) Maximum bumper heights shall be determined by weight category of gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) measured in terms of the vertical distance between the ground and the bottom of the frame rail or bumper. Maximum bumper heights are as follows:

Vehicle Type Front Rear
Passenger Vehicles 22 inches 22 inches
4,500 lbs. and under GVWR 24 inches 26 inches
4,501 lbs. to 7,500 lbs. GVWR 27 inches 29 inches
7,501 lbs. to 10,000 lbs. GVWR 28 inches 31 inches
(C) If the body and/or truck bed height is altered, the difference in height between the body floor and/or the truck bed floor to the top of the frame ail shall not exceed four inches. (Body Lifts)

(D) For any vehicle with bumpers or attaching components which have been modified or altered from the original manufacturers design in order to conform with the maximum bumper requirements of this rule, the bumper height shall be measured from a level surface to the bottom of the vehicle frame rail at the most forward and rearward points of the frame rail.

(E) The height restriction in this rule applies to the distance from the ground to the bottom of the frame rail under any one or more of the following conditions:

(1) A motor vehicle is not equipped with a front and rear bumper.

(2) The bumper height relative to the frame rails has been altered.

(3) A supplemental bumper has been installed or an addition to the original or replacement has been made.

Coppertop · 11-14-2009, 09:56 PM

To cool... Looks like he spotted me a few ..

Nick

BiggDaddy · 11-15-2009, 07:19 AM

So if this is all for safety's sake, is there a minimum distance that the bumper must be from the ground, or are all these trucks that drag their frame rails on the ground ok? That seems to me to be not very safe either.

BiggDaddy

sarge · 11-15-2009, 08:01 AM

There is also a low limit for suspensions !!!

rant on :

I just want to throw this out there just for FYI !!! I hate Troopers, as do most other city cops ( or should I say real cops ) Troopers are just over paid ticket *****es that got beat up in high school. ;)

Rant off :

You need to ask in court if the measurement was done on level ground and ask for proof the groud was level, if that can not be provided the measurement is out and thus the ticket is out. Just the way I'm reading it !!! may not fly in court so don't blame me if it doesn't work.

I have worked in Trenton for 15 years and have only seen one bumper height ticket written. That was for a Ford f-350 that was so stupid high that the head lights were even with the top of his garage door

and he was warned twice to keep it off the road by the officer that wrote him. The officer ( yes a trenton officer , but not me ) was ordered to write him by the Chief. Owner of truck decided to go for a stroll around town and pulled up behind the Chief and burped the throttle a couple times.... not smart !

GPER · 11-15-2009, 12:09 PM

Looks like this is starting to be wide spread through Ohio. There were a couple of threads on JU about this in Ohio and both threads got closed. So there are two web sites I will boycott now.

I never got what part of the state he was in, but I know we have one in Kettering. I have never been bothered, but he did pester E.

My theory is I have receiver hitches on the front and rear and an extension should work.

I'm 24 in the rear and 28 in the front, but the hitch in the front is 25. Mine weighs 4500 pounds and I'm sure I have gained weight to put me over that.

So if you get pulled over, you get out and pull out all of your valve stems and let your tires go flat.

Hope Springs Hauler · 11-15-2009, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPER

I'm 24 in the rear and 28 in the front, but the hitch in the front is 25. Mine weighs 4500 pounds and I'm sure I have gained weight to put me over that.
It is not about what you actually weigh, it is about what the registered gvw is.

Big caveat is the "if the bumper is modified, meaure to the frame....." part

You're f'ed if you do and f'ed if you don't.

GPER · 11-15-2009, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hope Springs Hauler

Big caveat is the "if the bumper is modified, meaure to the frame....." part

You're f'ed if you do and f'ed if you don't.

That should be the standard then since most of us run after market bumpers. I need to and have the room to bring mine down some. What if you don't have a stock frame?? Mine is also a replica of a CJ-7 on my title so what does it weigh???

I guess it doesn't matter for me since I might lower it some anyway.

chris_dishmon · 11-16-2009, 08:47 PM

n/m

blazerbrad · 11-17-2009, 08:24 AM

I know in our club I am only aware of two people getting pulled over and written up for bumper height, and it was at the same time. We were leaving a campground and going to the trails on a holiday weekend and a State Patrol pulled them over in a small town. He was literally parked along side the road waving lifted trucks over, and everybody and their brother drives a lifted truck in that area. The guy was a real jerk and wanted to have the vehicles towed but we finally talked him into letting us go get the trailers. He didn't even actually measure anything, just wrote up tickets.

Both guys protested the tickets and took them to court. Apparently the
State patrol guy didn't normally work in that area and had written up dozens of these types of tickets just over that one weekend. The local judge immediately dismissed the tickets as apparently he had pissed off the whole town and the local cops.

sarge · 11-18-2009, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazerbrad

Both guys protested the tickets and took them to court. Apparently the
State patrol guy didn't normally work in that area and had written up dozens of these types of tickets just over that one weekend. The local judge immediately dismissed the tickets as apparently he had pissed off the whole town and the local cops.

that right there is the best justice you can get !

11-14-2009, 09:13 PM	#1
comanchedude COMANCHE NUT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ross Twp Posts: 166	Learn it. Live it......... :) Administrative Code 4501-43-04 - Specifications (A) The horizontal bumper shall be at least 4.5 inches in vertical height, centered on the vehicle's centerline, and extend no less than the width of the respective wheel track distances. Bumpers shall be horizontal load-bearing bumpers attached to the vehicle frame to effectively transfer impact when engaged. (B) Maximum bumper heights shall be determined by weight category of gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) measured in terms of the vertical distance between the ground and the bottom of the frame rail or bumper. Maximum bumper heights are as follows: Vehicle Type Front Rear Passenger Vehicles 22 inches 22 inches 4,500 lbs. and under GVWR 24 inches 26 inches 4,501 lbs. to 7,500 lbs. GVWR 27 inches 29 inches 7,501 lbs. to 10,000 lbs. GVWR 28 inches 31 inches (C) If the body and/or truck bed height is altered, the difference in height between the body floor and/or the truck bed floor to the top of the frame ail shall not exceed four inches. (Body Lifts) (D) For any vehicle with bumpers or attaching components which have been modified or altered from the original manufacturers design in order to conform with the maximum bumper requirements of this rule, the bumper height shall be measured from a level surface to the bottom of the vehicle frame rail at the most forward and rearward points of the frame rail. (E) The height restriction in this rule applies to the distance from the ground to the bottom of the frame rail under any one or more of the following conditions: (1) A motor vehicle is not equipped with a front and rear bumper. (2) The bumper height relative to the frame rails has been altered. (3) A supplemental bumper has been installed or an addition to the original or replacement has been made. __________________ just don’t get stupid and stick a Chevy engine in your Jeep. Man I hate that

11-14-2009, 09:56 PM	#2
Coppertop XJWHEELING Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Colerain Township Posts: 837	To cool... Looks like he spotted me a few .. Nick __________________ Just a 200 dollar cherokee that wouldn't start .. Ten years later same chrome grille ..

11-15-2009, 07:19 AM	#3
BiggDaddy Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sidney, Ohio Posts: 52	what about a maximum? So if this is all for safety's sake, is there a minimum distance that the bumper must be from the ground, or are all these trucks that drag their frame rails on the ground ok? That seems to me to be not very safe either. BiggDaddy __________________ '82 CJ-7, 6" lift, stock axles 258, 35x15.50x15 TSL/SX Rustoleum Gray

11-15-2009, 12:09 PM	#5
GPER Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 811	Looks like this is starting to be wide spread through Ohio. There were a couple of threads on JU about this in Ohio and both threads got closed. So there are two web sites I will boycott now. I never got what part of the state he was in, but I know we have one in Kettering. I have never been bothered, but he did pester E. My theory is I have receiver hitches on the front and rear and an extension should work. I'm 24 in the rear and 28 in the front, but the hitch in the front is 25. Mine weighs 4500 pounds and I'm sure I have gained weight to put me over that. So if you get pulled over, you get out and pull out all of your valve stems and let your tires go flat. Last edited by GPER; 11-15-2009 at 12:19 PM.

11-16-2009, 08:47 PM	#8
chris_dishmon "let's fab some $h!t up!! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mt. Healthy Posts: 95	n/m __________________ I understand the Jeep thing.......that's why i drive a Toyota. '91 Toyota truck(3.0 to 3.4 swapped) "F@#k vacuum lines my truck sucks enough!"

11-15-2009, 08:01 AM	#4
sarge Pure Bacon Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trenton, Oh Posts: 1,098	There is also a low limit for suspensions !!! rant on : I just want to throw this out there just for FYI !!! I hate Troopers, as do most other city cops ( or should I say real cops ) Troopers are just over paid ticket *****es that got beat up in high school. ;) Rant off : You need to ask in court if the measurement was done on level ground and ask for proof the groud was level, if that can not be provided the measurement is out and thus the ticket is out. Just the way I'm reading it !!! may not fly in court so don't blame me if it doesn't work. I have worked in Trenton for 15 years and have only seen one bumper height ticket written. That was for a Ford f-350 that was so stupid high that the head lights were even with the top of his garage door and he was warned twice to keep it off the road by the officer that wrote him. The officer ( yes a trenton officer , but not me ) was ordered to write him by the Chief. Owner of truck decided to go for a stroll around town and pulled up behind the Chief and burped the throttle a couple times.... not smart !

11-17-2009, 08:24 AM	#9
blazerbrad - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 831 Images: 6	I know in our club I am only aware of two people getting pulled over and written up for bumper height, and it was at the same time. We were leaving a campground and going to the trails on a holiday weekend and a State Patrol pulled them over in a small town. He was literally parked along side the road waving lifted trucks over, and everybody and their brother drives a lifted truck in that area. The guy was a real jerk and wanted to have the vehicles towed but we finally talked him into letting us go get the trailers. He didn't even actually measure anything, just wrote up tickets. Both guys protested the tickets and took them to court. Apparently the State patrol guy didn't normally work in that area and had written up dozens of these types of tickets just over that one weekend. The local judge immediately dismissed the tickets as apparently he had pissed off the whole town and the local cops.