trailers

thefuzz · 01-30-2010, 12:24 AM

how are you guys hauling your rigs on a car trailer if your 4x4 has a wide stance as far as wide tires on it?? how do you get them past or over the trailer fenders without tearing up the trailer fenders ??

JET455 · 01-30-2010, 12:30 AM

You build them stronger to drive over them.

BIGRAM · 01-30-2010, 12:42 AM

I have built up wood blocks that set on the inside of the fenders.
Until it is built up that is.

My uncle has removable fenders on an aluminum trailer that is cool.

WrenchMonkey · 01-30-2010, 12:47 AM

I measured my trailer before odering my wheels. I've got about 3/4" to spare.

Guys on full widths reinforce the fenders with angle iron, box tube, or two-by-fours.

Robert

Trigger · 01-30-2010, 12:56 AM

I have a deckover trailer, so I don't have to worry about it.

thefuzz · 01-30-2010, 08:44 AM

could some of you posibly post a pic of how you did yours so i can get a idea of how to do mine? thanks !

KargoMaster · 01-30-2010, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trigger

I have a deckover trailer, so I don't have to worry about it.

x2

TomH · 01-30-2010, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trigger

I have a deckover trailer, so I don't have to worry about it.

x3

yellowjacket · 01-30-2010, 01:05 PM

my trailor fenders swivel up and remove if i need them too. then i drive over trailor tires and replace the fenders. pretty slick setup.

WrenchMonkey · 01-30-2010, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thefuzz

could some of you posibly post a pic of how you did yours so i can get a idea of how to do mine? thanks !

Not mine, like I said mine just fits.

But one on NAXJA I happened to remember from just last week:

Not a great pic of the rails, but you get the idea.

S'not real complicated.

Robert

Waffle · 01-30-2010, 06:43 PM

My trailer is 83" between the fenders. Yota is 85" wide. Soon I'm going to mod the fenders so they flip out or remove completely. My only concern with leaving it "drive over" was if the rig was dead and I needed to winch it on. That would be a ***** with anything but a straight shot.

WrenchMonkey · 01-30-2010, 07:04 PM

It just occurred to me that my XJ is loaded and balanced just right when the rear tire just rubs the inside of the trailer fender.

On full widths, the tire would have to sit entirely behind the fender. I've accidentally loaded it like that before, and it left the tongue way too light. The trailer really wanted to wag.

Now I'm more careful.

Robert

mckeddie · 01-30-2010, 07:47 PM

mine has regular fenders, with just a piece of angle iron inside for a support to the center of the fender. i drive directly over the tops of the original fenders, and have never had a problem. my old wheels and tires were more than halfway off the sides of the trailer (i was 96" outside of tire). i haven't loaded it with the new wheels and tires yet, so not sure about now.

94Dodge Truggy · 01-31-2010, 10:17 AM

Deckovers bring the rig up really high and can be a bit more unstable in off camber situations. Gooseneck deckovers work great. Bumper pull equipment (bobcat) trailers usually come with strong enough fenders to drive over.

carwash · 01-31-2010, 12:53 PM

[img]i was 96" outside of tire[/img]

jesus...

donaldcon · 01-31-2010, 12:59 PM

put the finders on quick disconnects so you cna remove thema nd drive over the tires then reinstall.

cheapthrills49 · 01-31-2010, 07:07 PM

i stood 2x10 on end like a floor truss, traced them out and cut them with a circular saw and the radius' with a saws-most. 4 carage bolts with lock washers and red loctite, been like that for years

trailer is 76.5" inside metal fenders and the 4walker is 88"

trailer is also 4 sale $800

Trigger · 01-31-2010, 08:01 PM

My problem on my old trailer with fenders wasn't the fact that I couldn't drive over them, that was easy to fix. The issue I had was that my wheelbase prevented me from being able to load the trailer with enough tongue weight to pull effectively. The back tires were essentially sitting on the dovetail part of the trailer. In order to have enough tongue weight, I would have had to park the back wheels on top of the fenders and that wouldn't have worked. My only solution really was a deckover.

kirbyiv · 01-31-2010, 08:49 PM

I am 84.5" sidewall to sidewall with a full width 60 front, 17x8 beadlocks with 4.5 BS and 14" wide tires. Trailer is 83.5 between fenders, I just let it squeeze between them, been working fine like that for 2 years. Just build drive-over fenders if you cant fit between them

blazerbrad · 02-01-2010, 09:52 AM

My trailer is about 83" between the fenders, and the front of my Blazer is about 87-88" wide. My temporary fix was to make wood ramps consisting of three 4x4's stacked on top of each other and then cut out to the same shape as the fenders and then fastened to the fenders with a couple of bolts. That temporary fix has been in place for 5-6 years now. I'm also lucky because the perfect loading puts my rear tires right up against these wood ramps, but as mentioned above if your rear tires need to be inbetween the fenders for proper loading you will have some issues.

The wood ramps I have now work great as you just pull it on and stop when the rear tires hit the ramps. But as also mentioned above there is some concern of getting the rig loaded or unloaded if something breaks. The worst case I have been in was no steering and the passenger side front axle shaft broke. Loading wasn't too bad once I had it lined up correctly but it's a little hairy not having any steering and the front tires sitting up on the ramp. Unloading was a pain and I had to have another vehicle help pull it off. Part of the problem was it was raining + steel deck = slick. With only one front wheel pulling and no steering the back wanted to slide over when trying to back over the ramps. I've never tried, but I'm guessing it would be rather difficult to load or unload in 2wd.

cheapthrills49 · 02-01-2010, 10:22 AM

i broke a joint n my front drive shaft 2 weekends ago and loaded up n 2wd. driving over the frosty fenders and my steal ramps slick as hell, i had 2 bump it pretty hard and it made my butt hole pucker a bit. sucks bad i need a deck over!

01-30-2010, 12:24 AM	#1
thefuzz Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: southern ohio Posts: 23	trailers how are you guys hauling your rigs on a car trailer if your 4x4 has a wide stance as far as wide tires on it?? how do you get them past or over the trailer fenders without tearing up the trailer fenders ?? __________________ Sgt Steve S.

01-30-2010, 12:30 AM	#2
JET455 Your wifes pimp! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Everywhere!!!!!! Posts: 548	You build them stronger to drive over them. __________________ if i am not currently offending you, i will be shortly.

01-30-2010, 12:42 AM	#3
BIGRAM Ready to Wheel!!!!!!! Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Stanton, KY Posts: 263	I have built up wood blocks that set on the inside of the fenders. Until it is built up that is. My uncle has removable fenders on an aluminum trailer that is cool. __________________ 1994 Dodge Ram 5.9L SWB 3/4 axles, 39.5 IROKS, HYDRO assist Last edited by BIGRAM; 01-30-2010 at 01:03 AM.

01-30-2010, 12:47 AM	#4
WrenchMonkey Mechanical Animal - CORE Member - - Moderator - Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Beechmont Posts: 1,883	I measured my trailer before odering my wheels. I've got about 3/4" to spare. Guys on full widths reinforce the fenders with angle iron, box tube, or two-by-fours. Robert __________________ DIRTY DEEDS, DONE DIRT CHEAP Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stranger

01-30-2010, 08:44 AM	#6
thefuzz Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: southern ohio Posts: 23	could some of you posibly post a pic of how you did yours so i can get a idea of how to do mine? thanks ! __________________ Sgt Steve S.

01-30-2010, 12:56 AM	#5
Trigger Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Xenia, OH Posts: 281	I have a deckover trailer, so I don't have to worry about it.

01-30-2010, 01:05 PM	#9
yellowjacket barely breathing Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: alexandria, ky Posts: 889	my trailor fenders swivel up and remove if i need them too. then i drive over trailor tires and replace the fenders. pretty slick setup.

01-30-2010, 06:43 PM	#11
Waffle Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: . Posts: 75 Images: 10	My trailer is 83" between the fenders. Yota is 85" wide. Soon I'm going to mod the fenders so they flip out or remove completely. My only concern with leaving it "drive over" was if the rig was dead and I needed to winch it on. That would be a ***** with anything but a straight shot.

01-30-2010, 07:04 PM	#12
WrenchMonkey Mechanical Animal - CORE Member - - Moderator - Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Beechmont Posts: 1,883	It just occurred to me that my XJ is loaded and balanced just right when the rear tire just rubs the inside of the trailer fender. On full widths, the tire would have to sit entirely behind the fender. I've accidentally loaded it like that before, and it left the tongue way too light. The trailer really wanted to wag. Now I'm more careful. Robert __________________ DIRTY DEEDS, DONE DIRT CHEAP Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stranger

01-30-2010, 07:47 PM	#13
mckeddie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: van wert oh Posts: 583	mine has regular fenders, with just a piece of angle iron inside for a support to the center of the fender. i drive directly over the tops of the original fenders, and have never had a problem. my old wheels and tires were more than halfway off the sides of the trailer (i was 96" outside of tire). i haven't loaded it with the new wheels and tires yet, so not sure about now. __________________ zuk buggy.....it'll be a jeep eventually.

01-31-2010, 10:17 AM	#14
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	Deckovers bring the rig up really high and can be a bit more unstable in off camber situations. Gooseneck deckovers work great. Bumper pull equipment (bobcat) trailers usually come with strong enough fenders to drive over. __________________

01-31-2010, 12:53 PM	#15
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	[img]i was 96" outside of tire[/img] jesus... __________________

01-31-2010, 12:59 PM	#16
donaldcon Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lancaster Ohio Posts: 383	put the finders on quick disconnects so you cna remove thema nd drive over the tires then reinstall. __________________ www.offroadohio.com www.facebook.com/offroadohio1 www.youtube.com/offroadohio1 www.photobucket.com/offroadohio

01-31-2010, 07:07 PM	#17
cheapthrills49 VANILLA GORILLA Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: blanmolester, ohio.......stonelick lake Posts: 192	i stood 2x10 on end like a floor truss, traced them out and cut them with a circular saw and the radius' with a saws-most. 4 carage bolts with lock washers and red loctite, been like that for years trailer is 76.5" inside metal fenders and the 4walker is 88" trailer is also 4 sale $800 __________________ I EAT BURRITOS ON EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!! Last edited by cheapthrills49; 01-02-2011 at 04:17 PM.

01-31-2010, 08:01 PM	#18
Trigger Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Xenia, OH Posts: 281	My problem on my old trailer with fenders wasn't the fact that I couldn't drive over them, that was easy to fix. The issue I had was that my wheelbase prevented me from being able to load the trailer with enough tongue weight to pull effectively. The back tires were essentially sitting on the dovetail part of the trailer. In order to have enough tongue weight, I would have had to park the back wheels on top of the fenders and that wouldn't have worked. My only solution really was a deckover.

01-31-2010, 08:49 PM	#19
kirbyiv Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 27	I am 84.5" sidewall to sidewall with a full width 60 front, 17x8 beadlocks with 4.5 BS and 14" wide tires. Trailer is 83.5 between fenders, I just let it squeeze between them, been working fine like that for 2 years. Just build drive-over fenders if you cant fit between them

02-01-2010, 09:52 AM	#20
blazerbrad - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 831 Images: 6	My trailer is about 83" between the fenders, and the front of my Blazer is about 87-88" wide. My temporary fix was to make wood ramps consisting of three 4x4's stacked on top of each other and then cut out to the same shape as the fenders and then fastened to the fenders with a couple of bolts. That temporary fix has been in place for 5-6 years now. I'm also lucky because the perfect loading puts my rear tires right up against these wood ramps, but as mentioned above if your rear tires need to be inbetween the fenders for proper loading you will have some issues. The wood ramps I have now work great as you just pull it on and stop when the rear tires hit the ramps. But as also mentioned above there is some concern of getting the rig loaded or unloaded if something breaks. The worst case I have been in was no steering and the passenger side front axle shaft broke. Loading wasn't too bad once I had it lined up correctly but it's a little hairy not having any steering and the front tires sitting up on the ramp. Unloading was a pain and I had to have another vehicle help pull it off. Part of the problem was it was raining + steel deck = slick. With only one front wheel pulling and no steering the back wanted to slide over when trying to back over the ramps. I've never tried, but I'm guessing it would be rather difficult to load or unload in 2wd.

02-01-2010, 10:22 AM	#21
cheapthrills49 VANILLA GORILLA Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: blanmolester, ohio.......stonelick lake Posts: 192	i broke a joint n my front drive shaft 2 weekends ago and loaded up n 2wd. driving over the frosty fenders and my steal ramps slick as hell, i had 2 bump it pretty hard and it made my butt hole pucker a bit. sucks bad i need a deck over! __________________ I EAT BURRITOS ON EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!