Rod End Question...

94Dodge Truggy · 04-06-2010, 09:55 AM

I 2nd qa1 3/4 teflon 27000 rating.

carwash · 04-06-2010, 10:05 AM

When a heim fails, it fails completely. You either lose a link or steering arm completely from the attachment point. If it's a link, your axle shifts and probably wastes a coilover or airshock.

When a JJ fails, it just gets sloppy and horribly loose. but you will still get off the trail and back to camp without wasting a $500 shock. And it's rebuildable with common tools and a large bolt. I carry the guts for one JJ with me and a rebuild tool, and I'm good to go.

That alone should help you make your decision. Everything breaks, it's a matter of damage control when it does happen.

humpy · 04-06-2010, 12:05 PM

i been runnin qa1 heims for a couple years now with some hard beatin and never had a problem...i think its a wash...heims all the way...if your doin both ends thats like 700-800 in joints to save a $240 shock???? does not make sense to me...especially never having a problem with them...

94Dodge Truggy · 04-06-2010, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by humpy

i been runnin qa1 heims for a couple years now with some hard beatin and never had a problem...i think its a wash...heims all the way...if your doin both ends thats like 700-800 in joints to save a $240 shock???? does not make sense to me...especially never having a problem with them...

It was a 500.00 shock. Coilovers run much higher than that. It may be a carWASH though.

carwash · 04-06-2010, 01:27 PM

I enjoy peace of mind when wheeling... i try to get rid of every possible break point. But, i speak from experience on the shock getting wasted. I don't recall who was at the badlands on that one... but i had a heim break and folded a swayawy coilover damn near in half.

Now, they were cheaper heims, i was young and retarded.. but i really dig the johnnies now. I guess it's run what you know... I would run some fat ass heims on a rig... they just get noisy too...

Both are good, just giving my reasons for why i run what i do.

yellowjacket · 04-06-2010, 03:10 PM

used to see ALL KINDS of rigs with tractor heims on the trail. pull up a seat, grab a drink, and watch the carnage... cause you just knew they put that much peace of mind into the rest of there truck, too.

humpy · 04-06-2010, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carwash

I enjoy peace of mind when wheeling... i try to get rid of every possible break point. But, i speak from experience on the shock getting wasted. I don't recall who was at the badlands on that one... but i had a heim break and folded a swayawy coilover damn near in half.

Now, they were cheaper heims, i was young and retarded.. but i really dig the johnnies now. I guess it's run what you know... I would run some fat ass heims on a rig... they just get noisy too...

Both are good, just giving my reasons for why i run what i do.

i understand....was not a shot in any way...just sharing what i have in my very limited knowledge lol

biggin69 · 04-06-2010, 03:21 PM

What about JJ's on the lowers and hiems on the uppers?

04-06-2010, 09:55 AM	#1
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	I 2nd qa1 3/4 teflon 27000 rating. __________________

04-06-2010, 10:05 AM	#2
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	When a heim fails, it fails completely. You either lose a link or steering arm completely from the attachment point. If it's a link, your axle shifts and probably wastes a coilover or airshock. When a JJ fails, it just gets sloppy and horribly loose. but you will still get off the trail and back to camp without wasting a $500 shock. And it's rebuildable with common tools and a large bolt. I carry the guts for one JJ with me and a rebuild tool, and I'm good to go. That alone should help you make your decision. Everything breaks, it's a matter of damage control when it does happen. __________________

04-06-2010, 01:27 PM	#5
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	I enjoy peace of mind when wheeling... i try to get rid of every possible break point. But, i speak from experience on the shock getting wasted. I don't recall who was at the badlands on that one... but i had a heim break and folded a swayawy coilover damn near in half. Now, they were cheaper heims, i was young and retarded.. but i really dig the johnnies now. I guess it's run what you know... I would run some fat ass heims on a rig... they just get noisy too... Both are good, just giving my reasons for why i run what i do. __________________

04-06-2010, 12:05 PM	#3
humpy Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 573	i been runnin qa1 heims for a couple years now with some hard beatin and never had a problem...i think its a wash...heims all the way...if your doin both ends thats like 700-800 in joints to save a $240 shock???? does not make sense to me...especially never having a problem with them...

04-06-2010, 03:10 PM	#6
yellowjacket barely breathing Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: alexandria, ky Posts: 889	used to see ALL KINDS of rigs with tractor heims on the trail. pull up a seat, grab a drink, and watch the carnage... cause you just knew they put that much peace of mind into the rest of there truck, too.

04-06-2010, 03:21 PM	#8
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	What about JJ's on the lowers and hiems on the uppers?