info on a toyota

tree_bashed_sammy · 05-03-2010, 04:33 AM

i have a 89 toyota and cut all the ifs off of it and put the rear springs in the front and put 4 inch lift springs in the back well i was told that would lift the front but it didnt so was i suppose to put different year springs in the front or what?

im possibly lookin to have someone finish the front or redo it if its not right the guy i had doin it hasnt wanted to do any work to it in awhile and i wanna get out wheeling but i am i dumb ass when it comes to fabing stuff and figuring out how and where stuff goes when redoing stuff so if anyone would be interested in maybe the work i could bring it to u or take pics or whatever i need to do to get a possible estimate on what it might cost

tjjeepjeep · 05-03-2010, 08:46 AM

My standard response: Armstrong Automotive (Scott). Shop is in Fairfield (by Jungle Jim's). Number is 513-939-3903.

began · 05-03-2010, 10:08 AM

ill 2nd that....great shop and scott does things right

biggin69 · 05-03-2010, 05:01 PM

Scott just recently completed a SAS on a 4 runner so I am sure he can help you.

A friend and Myself just recenlty comleted a SAS on his '91 Yota Truck. It was not that bad of a job for the mechanically inclined but it is time consuming. He bout the SAS kit from Trial Gear which included everything needed (almost) to complete the swap.

neverfinished · 05-03-2010, 11:43 PM

I think it depends on the motor, bumper, winch, etc.
Basically, the weight up front determines how well the rears up front will work. On my 90 4-runner with the V6, I used rears up front and added like 3 or 4 leafs from another rear pack. You have to cut and stagger the leafs. My leaf packs flex out great but are a bit thick. I need to lose a leaf somehow because the high steer (sky offroad) tie rod rubs the leaf when the steering is at full lock. Honestly I think I'm just going to order Trail Gear springs when I get around to it. Not too expensive and if you already have the spring hanger and shackle tubes welded on, then the trail gear springs would bolt right up.

boomhauer · 05-04-2010, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tree_bashed_sammy

i have a 89 toyota and cut all the ifs off of it and put the rear springs in the front and put 4 inch lift springs in the back well i was told that would lift the front but it didnt so was i suppose to put different year springs in the front or what?

im possibly lookin to have someone finish the front or redo it if its not right the guy i had doin it hasnt wanted to do any work to it in awhile and i wanna get out wheeling but i am i dumb ass when it comes to fabing stuff and figuring out how and where stuff goes when redoing stuff so if anyone would be interested in maybe the work i could bring it to u or take pics or whatever i need to do to get a possible estimate on what it might cost

just trying flipping the helper spring over and that should do it

Waffle · 05-07-2010, 03:31 AM

Rears up front by themselves won't gain lift. Most need to increase by adding additional leaves to the pack along with longer shackles. You need to watch out with the shackle though. Too long and the angle starts to reach 90 degrees. 45 to 60 degree shackle angle works good. Plus, not all rears are the same. The common length I believe is 47", measured along the arch from eye to eye. Some older ones had the center pin located further forward gaining firewall clearance and steering interference. Later ones (I'm thinking 89 and up) had 52" rears. These flex like mad but it's major work to take full advantage of these.

05-03-2010, 04:33 AM	#1
tree_bashed_sammy just a good ol boy Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: dayton ohio Posts: 76	info on a toyota i have a 89 toyota and cut all the ifs off of it and put the rear springs in the front and put 4 inch lift springs in the back well i was told that would lift the front but it didnt so was i suppose to put different year springs in the front or what? im possibly lookin to have someone finish the front or redo it if its not right the guy i had doin it hasnt wanted to do any work to it in awhile and i wanna get out wheeling but i am i dumb ass when it comes to fabing stuff and figuring out how and where stuff goes when redoing stuff so if anyone would be interested in maybe the work i could bring it to u or take pics or whatever i need to do to get a possible estimate on what it might cost

05-03-2010, 08:46 AM	#2
tjjeepjeep Just tired Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 2,213 Images: 2212	My standard response: Armstrong Automotive (Scott). Shop is in Fairfield (by Jungle Jim's). Number is 513-939-3903. __________________ I want to be the reason you look down at your phone and smile........then walk into a pole.

05-03-2010, 10:08 AM	#3
began Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Springdale OH Posts: 149	ill 2nd that....great shop and scott does things right

05-03-2010, 05:01 PM	#4
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	Scott just recently completed a SAS on a 4 runner so I am sure he can help you. A friend and Myself just recenlty comleted a SAS on his '91 Yota Truck. It was not that bad of a job for the mechanically inclined but it is time consuming. He bout the SAS kit from Trial Gear which included everything needed (almost) to complete the swap.

05-03-2010, 11:43 PM	#5
neverfinished Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Liberty Township Posts: 14	I think it depends on the motor, bumper, winch, etc. Basically, the weight up front determines how well the rears up front will work. On my 90 4-runner with the V6, I used rears up front and added like 3 or 4 leafs from another rear pack. You have to cut and stagger the leafs. My leaf packs flex out great but are a bit thick. I need to lose a leaf somehow because the high steer (sky offroad) tie rod rubs the leaf when the steering is at full lock. Honestly I think I'm just going to order Trail Gear springs when I get around to it. Not too expensive and if you already have the spring hanger and shackle tubes welded on, then the trail gear springs would bolt right up.

05-07-2010, 03:31 AM	#7
Waffle Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: . Posts: 75 Images: 10	Rears up front by themselves won't gain lift. Most need to increase by adding additional leaves to the pack along with longer shackles. You need to watch out with the shackle though. Too long and the angle starts to reach 90 degrees. 45 to 60 degree shackle angle works good. Plus, not all rears are the same. The common length I believe is 47", measured along the arch from eye to eye. Some older ones had the center pin located further forward gaining firewall clearance and steering interference. Later ones (I'm thinking 89 and up) had 52" rears. These flex like mad but it's major work to take full advantage of these.