Just got the Fourwheeler magazine... - Page 2

carwash · 09-24-2010, 10:29 AM

I'm excited to see it, hope my DVR wakes up and finds it.

KargoMaster · 09-24-2010, 10:30 AM

Looks like we'll have a chance to see Scott and the buggy Oct 2...

Here's some more info/pics:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f159/...tures-1104578/

Those are most certainly his 80/rockwell hybrid axles...

yellowjacket · 09-24-2010, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwend

even with a 24 inch rim could you imagine the up travel speed on that tire and rim when you hit somthing!?!?!? H.S! could end up like a hairy woman very fast...= sh!ty situation! (just incase you were wondering if that was good or bad Rob)

whats wrong with hairy women??? as long as they dont have an adam's apple bigger than mine......

yeah, seeing how a lot of koh guys are running off the shelf RADIAL tires to make high speed tolerable, i wouldent look forward to 49's at all in the desert.

i wish i got the outdoor channel. guess im stuck with extreme 4x4 showing me how to get better gas milage from a 98 ram....

fabricator · 09-24-2010, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94Dodge Truggy

a poker tournament night

whats this?

flatlander757 · 09-24-2010, 09:55 PM

I've got a D70HD under the back of my TJ.

Some other info on D70s:

The D70HD uses larger carrier bearings and has 4" dia axle tubes.

The D70U has a SMOOTH bottom... very nice.

Uses the same D60 pinion yokes... interchangability is nice. since you've likely got a 60 in the front(like I do).

Deeper gears available(down to 7.17) as already mentioned... I LOVE my 5.86s with stock 4.0

Not sure about 14 bolts, but most D70s have equal length axle shafts left and right... less spares.

The housing is cast steel... very easy to weld vs the 14 bolt's cast IRON center section.

1.5" diameter shafts... mine are 35 spline. There are some oddball coarse splined axles out there too but 35 spline is relatively common AFAIK.

Carriers... kinda expensive for this axle but SOME of the D70 carriers are 2pc carriers... in which case the Detroit upgrade is actually relatively cheap IIRC. Some have 1pc carriers and you need to buy a full Detroit then as well.

Another thing on gears... there is NO 5.38 gear ratio available for any D70... so if you have a D60 for the front or something already geared to 5.38s... you're better off just getting a 14 bolt instead. Similar strength but you won't be re-regearing your front axle. I found this out when the previous owner told me it had 5.38 gears... I was very happy about that... then found out that 5.38s don't exist... inspection found I have 5.86s which work really well on 40s. Tons of power and it's not too terrible shifting all the time.

KargoMaster · 09-24-2010, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flatlander757

Not sure about 14 bolts, but most D70s have equal length axle shafts left and right... less spares.

Less spares to carry would certainly be nice... 14 bolts are most certainly not the same length axle shafts... but the ARE just close enough to be a pain in the a$$.

I'm betting that the D70 is probably like the wonky numbers in the D80... 4.63:1 and 5.13:1 were very "common" for the Chevy Dana80 in my OBS 3500HD...

carwash · 09-25-2010, 01:15 AM

now this many switches is just flat out retarded, seriously. focking stop it.

redcj3a · 09-25-2010, 09:57 PM

On Time Warner, in Middletown, it appears to be on at 7:30 pm, Monday. Top Truck Challenge. "(2010) 6:Early competitors have their nerves tested against the Frame Twister." Digital channel 330

Right or wrong, it is what my DVR is set for.

John

KargoMaster · 09-26-2010, 09:10 PM

Yes John... I think it's been confirmed on a few (even mine) to say the same... 30 minute show is better than nothing I guess... I'll be recording it for others...

A few made it through without winching.... I am interested in how we placed in this one... you might see us, you might not...

carwash · 09-26-2010, 10:24 PM

We could have done much better in that obstacle, it's the one that I'm least pleased with.

KargoMaster · 09-27-2010, 08:13 AM

Agreed, we could have made a better show... but it also could have been our downfall if we got DQ'ed for bouncing up and over one of the side markers, or if it got UGLY in the logs...

The same higher COG that we used to our advantage to kill the Mini Rubicon and Tank Trap would have done us NO GOOD if we tilted over to one side as far as Leo was.

I'm quite pleased with the overall result, and with as little room for error as there was... I'm happy with our Frame Twister run.

I believe the days of going into the Tank Trap with a lead big enough to win the thing no matter what... are long gone. Too many good rigs out there.

carwash · 09-27-2010, 08:42 AM

And you will always have me to blame fir not letting you pre spool more rope. I could kick myself for that one. That makes two times I didn't listen to my co driver. In The tank trap it might have got us below 3 minutes.

If the frame twister had been later in the week I would skipped us across it like a rock.

KargoMaster · 09-27-2010, 10:17 AM

Our TEAM did well, there is no blame.

I think I didn't help in that crappy Mud Pit as much as I could've... HATE that thing.

I believe you about the Frame Twister later in the week... I do believe every word...

edit: reviewed the video... 15-20 seconds maybe... no way under 3:00...

itbrokeagain · 09-27-2010, 06:39 PM

I think it worked. I am ready to buy the video

09-24-2010, 10:29 AM	#26
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	I'm excited to see it, hope my DVR wakes up and finds it. __________________

09-24-2010, 10:30 AM	#27
KargoMaster Cleaning off the rust... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,009	Looks like we'll have a chance to see Scott and the buggy Oct 2... Here's some more info/pics: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f159/...tures-1104578/ Those are most certainly his 80/rockwell hybrid axles... __________________ brad 5.0L \| 435 \| 203 \| 300 \| 4.10 \| 39.5 Buildup BACK underway...

09-25-2010, 01:15 AM	#32
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	now this many switches is just flat out retarded, seriously. focking stop it. __________________

09-25-2010, 09:57 PM	#33
redcj3a Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Middletown Posts: 118	On Time Warner, in Middletown, it appears to be on at 7:30 pm, Monday. Top Truck Challenge. "(2010) 6:Early competitors have their nerves tested against the Frame Twister." Digital channel 330 Right or wrong, it is what my DVR is set for. John __________________ 1950 CJ3A. Oddfire 225 V6, T-86 transmission, Dana 18 transfer case, 4 wheel disc brakes, locked front and rear. Manual saginaw steering. Warn winch, 9,000#.

09-26-2010, 09:10 PM	#34
KargoMaster Cleaning off the rust... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,009	Yes John... I think it's been confirmed on a few (even mine) to say the same... 30 minute show is better than nothing I guess... I'll be recording it for others... A few made it through without winching.... I am interested in how we placed in this one... you might see us, you might not... __________________ brad 5.0L \| 435 \| 203 \| 300 \| 4.10 \| 39.5 Buildup BACK underway...

09-24-2010, 09:55 PM	#30
flatlander757 Fartface extrordinair Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: West Carrollton Posts: 127	I've got a D70HD under the back of my TJ. Some other info on D70s: The D70HD uses larger carrier bearings and has 4" dia axle tubes. The D70U has a SMOOTH bottom... very nice. Uses the same D60 pinion yokes... interchangability is nice. since you've likely got a 60 in the front(like I do). Deeper gears available(down to 7.17) as already mentioned... I LOVE my 5.86s with stock 4.0 Not sure about 14 bolts, but most D70s have equal length axle shafts left and right... less spares. The housing is cast steel... very easy to weld vs the 14 bolt's cast IRON center section. 1.5" diameter shafts... mine are 35 spline. There are some oddball coarse splined axles out there too but 35 spline is relatively common AFAIK. Carriers... kinda expensive for this axle but SOME of the D70 carriers are 2pc carriers... in which case the Detroit upgrade is actually relatively cheap IIRC. Some have 1pc carriers and you need to buy a full Detroit then as well. Another thing on gears... there is NO 5.38 gear ratio available for any D70... so if you have a D60 for the front or something already geared to 5.38s... you're better off just getting a 14 bolt instead. Similar strength but you won't be re-regearing your front axle. I found this out when the previous owner told me it had 5.38 gears... I was very happy about that... then found out that 5.38s don't exist... inspection found I have 5.86s which work really well on 40s. Tons of power and it's not too terrible shifting all the time.

09-26-2010, 10:24 PM	#35
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	We could have done much better in that obstacle, it's the one that I'm least pleased with. __________________

09-27-2010, 08:13 AM	#36
KargoMaster Cleaning off the rust... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,009	Agreed, we could have made a better show... but it also could have been our downfall if we got DQ'ed for bouncing up and over one of the side markers, or if it got UGLY in the logs... The same higher COG that we used to our advantage to kill the Mini Rubicon and Tank Trap would have done us NO GOOD if we tilted over to one side as far as Leo was. I'm quite pleased with the overall result, and with as little room for error as there was... I'm happy with our Frame Twister run. I believe the days of going into the Tank Trap with a lead big enough to win the thing no matter what... are long gone. Too many good rigs out there. __________________ brad 5.0L \| 435 \| 203 \| 300 \| 4.10 \| 39.5 Buildup BACK underway...

09-27-2010, 08:42 AM	#37
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	And you will always have me to blame fir not letting you pre spool more rope. I could kick myself for that one. That makes two times I didn't listen to my co driver. In The tank trap it might have got us below 3 minutes. If the frame twister had been later in the week I would skipped us across it like a rock. __________________

09-27-2010, 10:17 AM	#38
KargoMaster Cleaning off the rust... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,009	Our TEAM did well, there is no blame. I think I didn't help in that crappy Mud Pit as much as I could've... HATE that thing. I believe you about the Frame Twister later in the week... I do believe every word... edit: reviewed the video... 15-20 seconds maybe... no way under 3:00... __________________ brad 5.0L \| 435 \| 203 \| 300 \| 4.10 \| 39.5 Buildup BACK underway... Last edited by KargoMaster; 09-27-2010 at 10:24 AM.

09-27-2010, 06:39 PM	#39
itbrokeagain Just Empty Every Pocket - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Amelia Posts: 1,435	I think it worked. I am ready to buy the video __________________ 91 fj 80 on 37 Nitto Muds with a 10k winch. Cage and sliders coming soon.