D30

tjrider · 12-20-2010, 11:10 AM

I have a 2000 TJ with a 8.8 rearend that I'm going to put a lockright in. Should/can I do the same to the front D30? Its still a daily driver for now. I've heard both sides of the issue. Any advice will help

Bear Chow · 12-20-2010, 11:21 AM

Sure you can do it, but should you is based entirely on wheel, engine and shoe size. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone trying to get into wheeling. Save for the right axle and build that to your desired abuility. Even a rockwell with the wrong application of throttle will break. Personnaly I would never spend upgrade money on anything less then a D60.

However, I have a very light foot and if a used locker showed up at my door cheap it would get installed.

Hope Springs Hauler · 12-20-2010, 02:24 PM

I would not lock-right the front of a daily driver that does not have selectable hubs.

GPER · 12-20-2010, 02:47 PM

Do you have power steering??????? That was my mistake, someday I will put it on.

tjrider · 12-20-2010, 03:58 PM

I have power steering and I'm running 33s. Just trying to get as far as I can offroad. Should I even lock the rear?

Hope Springs Hauler · 12-20-2010, 04:10 PM

Locking the rear is very manageable for a daily driver. When I first got my YJ, it had lock-rights front and rear. Having the rear locked up was fine; it just reminded you that it was there sometimes.

The front, however, could become a handful on snow packed roads when I tried to use 4wd. With the YJ disco axle, 2wd was not noticeable. You have no lock-outs on the hubs and a non disconect axle; you will notice the locker in the front and it could throw you where you don't want to be on the road. Off-road, it would be great though.

KennyTJ · 12-20-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hope Springs Hauler

Locking the rear is very manageable for a daily driver. When I first got my YJ, it had lock-rights front and rear. Having the rear locked up was fine; it just reminded you that it was there sometimes.

The front, however, could become a handful on snow packed roads when I tried to use 4wd. With the YJ disco axle, 2wd was not noticeable. You have no lock-outs on the hubs and a non disconect axle; you will notice the locker in the front and it could throw you where you don't want to be on the road. Off-road, it would be great though.

In 2wd in the TJ you will not even notice the front locker at all. I can give the a hundred jeep owners that have this set-up. The locker in the rear does get noisy and sucks in 2wd. I would lock the front and leave the 8.8 alone or better yet save for an OX or ARB for the rear so you can disco it on the road.

If you don't believe me call Terry @ TKH and he'll suggest the same thing, and give you the rundown on TJ's

Flxratd · 12-20-2010, 04:31 PM

just weld it all up and replace parts as needed

i do agree save your money and get something selectable or you will really start to not enjoy your jeep for street use.

tjrider · 12-20-2010, 05:53 PM

I like my axle shafts too much to weld them solid. Thanks for the suggestion though

donaldcon · 12-20-2010, 06:30 PM

the only reall differance the front locker will make on the street is when in 4wd. its going to be a PITa to steer in snow. The rear is affected in the snow/slick aswell but aside from some noise you wotn notice it much either

tjrider · 12-20-2010, 06:59 PM

That was my though too, but wanted more input. I really want the front locked but don't want to switch the front out too just yet

RuffedUpXJ · 12-20-2010, 08:48 PM

You won't be welding the axle shafts just the spider gears and carrier.

For offroad I would rather have a front locker for a DD

kb9qdi · 12-20-2010, 10:59 PM

I'm running a 8.8 with 4.88's /Aussie and welded tubes combo and a open D30 on 35's and love it. It does remind you from time to time its there with the normal locker clunk and ratchet but its no biggie to me. It's no worse in the snow in 2wd than driving a RWD Car/Truck. Once you engage it into 4WH it's great, no problems at Hi-way speeds and very stable. I love it. Off Road it does very well and is way more capable in low than the limited slip/open carrier ever thought of ever being off road.

A good friend of mine has the same set up on a DD only with 3.73's and 33's but his D30 has an Aussie in it and he hates it in the snow for a DD. It's a handfull to drive on the road in 4WH and has broken stock shafts twice already off road. His 8.8 is a LSD and he'd rather have it like mine and open in the front. Driving it in 2WD in the snow with the LSD is'nt a biggie but if 4WH is needed hang on at Hi-Way speeds!

If I had the money mine would have an OX or ARB for sure because I do miss driving it open on the street but you learn real quick how to drive with a lunchbox and it becomes normal to you real quick. It's a cheap option and a great traction adder for the DD wheeler like myself. Good Luck!

tjrider · 12-21-2010, 08:45 AM

Thanks, that was the info I needed. I was looking for someone with a similar set up. Ill try the open front first and save for the OX locker

T-bird · 12-30-2010, 09:50 AM

I have 99 TJ with a Yukon Spartan Locker in the front and it is no problem in the snow. It has never done anything on the road that would hurt its driveability other than the slight clicking I hear when turning into a parking spot or out of the driveway.

They act better with the bigger tires you run. I have ran mine on 33's and 35's and I could tell that it was better mannered with the 35's

blazerbrad · 12-31-2010, 11:09 PM

Regarding the Ox lockers, a couple rigs in our club have used them and they always have trouble getting them to lock in and are messing with the cable adjustment. One rig was a YJ with the Ox in the front, the other was a TJ with them front and rear. I'm not exaggerating when I say every ride, and often several times per ride, they were messing with them. Now granted, maybe they just didn't have them set up right or something.

12-20-2010, 11:10 AM	#1
tjrider Join Date: May 2009 Location: fairfield Posts: 320	D30 I have a 2000 TJ with a 8.8 rearend that I'm going to put a lockright in. Should/can I do the same to the front D30? Its still a daily driver for now. I've heard both sides of the issue. Any advice will help

12-20-2010, 02:24 PM	#3
Hope Springs Hauler Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 431 Images: 16	I would not lock-right the front of a daily driver that does not have selectable hubs. __________________ 1988 Suzuki Samurai on propane FJ 40 axles (4.10) 5.14 tcase 36" TSL SX

12-20-2010, 04:10 PM	#6
Hope Springs Hauler Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 431 Images: 16	Locking the rear is very manageable for a daily driver. When I first got my YJ, it had lock-rights front and rear. Having the rear locked up was fine; it just reminded you that it was there sometimes. The front, however, could become a handful on snow packed roads when I tried to use 4wd. With the YJ disco axle, 2wd was not noticeable. You have no lock-outs on the hubs and a non disconect axle; you will notice the locker in the front and it could throw you where you don't want to be on the road. Off-road, it would be great though. __________________ 1988 Suzuki Samurai on propane FJ 40 axles (4.10) 5.14 tcase 36" TSL SX

12-20-2010, 04:31 PM	#8
Flxratd Retired Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hamilton/Ross Posts: 645	just weld it all up and replace parts as needed i do agree save your money and get something selectable or you will really start to not enjoy your jeep for street use. __________________ One of these days Zuk 2.0

12-20-2010, 06:30 PM	#10
donaldcon Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lancaster Ohio Posts: 383	the only reall differance the front locker will make on the street is when in 4wd. its going to be a PITa to steer in snow. The rear is affected in the snow/slick aswell but aside from some noise you wotn notice it much either __________________ www.offroadohio.com www.facebook.com/offroadohio1 www.youtube.com/offroadohio1 www.photobucket.com/offroadohio

12-20-2010, 11:21 AM	#2
Bear Chow Jeepless Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oxford, Oh Posts: 302	Sure you can do it, but should you is based entirely on wheel, engine and shoe size. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone trying to get into wheeling. Save for the right axle and build that to your desired abuility. Even a rockwell with the wrong application of throttle will break. Personnaly I would never spend upgrade money on anything less then a D60. However, I have a very light foot and if a used locker showed up at my door cheap it would get installed.

12-20-2010, 02:47 PM	#4
GPER Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 811	Do you have power steering??????? That was my mistake, someday I will put it on.

12-20-2010, 03:58 PM	#5
tjrider Join Date: May 2009 Location: fairfield Posts: 320	I have power steering and I'm running 33s. Just trying to get as far as I can offroad. Should I even lock the rear?

12-20-2010, 05:53 PM	#9
tjrider Join Date: May 2009 Location: fairfield Posts: 320	I like my axle shafts too much to weld them solid. Thanks for the suggestion though

12-20-2010, 06:59 PM	#11
tjrider Join Date: May 2009 Location: fairfield Posts: 320	That was my though too, but wanted more input. I really want the front locked but don't want to switch the front out too just yet

12-20-2010, 08:48 PM	#12
RuffedUpXJ On XJ 2 Now Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield Twp. Posts: 314	You won't be welding the axle shafts just the spider gears and carrier. For offroad I would rather have a front locker for a DD __________________ 88 XJ - 5" lift - 35" BFG's - Bumpers - Rock Rails - Homebrewed OBA - Roof Rack - Tube Doors - Trimmed - Dented 87 XJ - D44 - Disco D30 - 235's - 231TC - Stock for now

12-20-2010, 10:59 PM	#13
kb9qdi Storm Chaser Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Harrison,Ohio Posts: 142	I'm running a 8.8 with 4.88's /Aussie and welded tubes combo and a open D30 on 35's and love it. It does remind you from time to time its there with the normal locker clunk and ratchet but its no biggie to me. It's no worse in the snow in 2wd than driving a RWD Car/Truck. Once you engage it into 4WH it's great, no problems at Hi-way speeds and very stable. I love it. Off Road it does very well and is way more capable in low than the limited slip/open carrier ever thought of ever being off road. A good friend of mine has the same set up on a DD only with 3.73's and 33's but his D30 has an Aussie in it and he hates it in the snow for a DD. It's a handfull to drive on the road in 4WH and has broken stock shafts twice already off road. His 8.8 is a LSD and he'd rather have it like mine and open in the front. Driving it in 2WD in the snow with the LSD is'nt a biggie but if 4WH is needed hang on at Hi-Way speeds! If I had the money mine would have an OX or ARB for sure because I do miss driving it open on the street but you learn real quick how to drive with a lunchbox and it becomes normal to you real quick. It's a cheap option and a great traction adder for the DD wheeler like myself. Good Luck! __________________ 06 TJ, 8.8 Aussied, 4.88's and 35" KM2's Last edited by kb9qdi; 12-20-2010 at 11:05 PM.

12-21-2010, 08:45 AM	#14
tjrider Join Date: May 2009 Location: fairfield Posts: 320	Thanks, that was the info I needed. I was looking for someone with a similar set up. Ill try the open front first and save for the OX locker

12-30-2010, 09:50 AM	#15
T-bird Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Centerville Posts: 123	I have 99 TJ with a Yukon Spartan Locker in the front and it is no problem in the snow. It has never done anything on the road that would hurt its driveability other than the slight clicking I hear when turning into a parking spot or out of the driveway. They act better with the bigger tires you run. I have ran mine on 33's and 35's and I could tell that it was better mannered with the 35's

12-31-2010, 11:09 PM	#16
blazerbrad - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 831 Images: 6	Regarding the Ox lockers, a couple rigs in our club have used them and they always have trouble getting them to lock in and are messing with the cable adjustment. One rig was a YJ with the Ox in the front, the other was a TJ with them front and rear. I'm not exaggerating when I say every ride, and often several times per ride, they were messing with them. Now granted, maybe they just didn't have them set up right or something.