Drive shafts. DIY vs shops

Jonesy · 11-27-2012, 10:31 PM

Need a new front drive shaft for my Toyota. The one I just slung out was a square tube shaft I threw together just to get on the trails. The factory slip isn't long enough any more.

So my questions are. Are there any reputable drive line companies in the area that don't think their stuff is made of gold? Should I just buy one of the DIY kits from Marlin, trail gear or the like? This is off road only so it doesn't need to be balanced.

Anything else that I should take into consideration?

Drivermod · 11-27-2012, 11:41 PM

Todd can build you one. Worth a call.

93 Krawler · 11-28-2012, 01:27 PM

I prefer making my own and saving $$$$$

Jonesy · 11-28-2012, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 93 Krawler

I prefer making my own and saving $$$$$

I'm right there with ya. The stock toyotas only have about 5" of usable slip. I need about 6-7" of slip. Anyone know of a factory slip that I could repurpose for my yota with enough slip? Really hate to spend $150-$250 for just the spline kit from anyone.

Nuts · 11-28-2012, 07:36 PM

Do you have a shackle reverse? Why else would you need so much slip?

twiztedzuki · 11-28-2012, 08:48 PM

i dont use 2" mayb of slip with 17" coilovers, i figured it was a leaf spring thing

Jonesy · 11-28-2012, 10:08 PM

I may have something set up wrong.

Current setup is a single case that has been tucked, RUF springs. Tried lengthing the stock drive shaft 2". It will fully compress the slip and pulls apart when it flexes out hard. All I know that is wrong is I need some degree shims to get the caster corrected, but that shouldn't effect the slip length. Any ideas?

underpowered · 11-28-2012, 10:33 PM

the natural moion of leaves causes the need for exta slip.

as leaves droop out, the axle will move forward as well as drop out, both will increase the length of the shaft. when it compresses the axle will move rearward as well as up, both of which shorten the shaft needed. between the two phenomenon alot more slipp will be used with rear-shackled leafs.

with Links, the natural arc helps combat this as the axle does the opposite. as you droop, you axle moves back and down and under compression moves up and forward so the length of slip needed is decreased greatly with links over leaves.

Nuts · 11-29-2012, 12:35 AM

The natural motion of leaves set up in a shackle reverse type suspension will do that,which is why I asked, but after I reread the first post I saw it was a Toyota so it probably is shackle reverse. If that is the case I'd order a long spline kit and make my own drive shaft

11-27-2012, 10:31 PM	#1
Jonesy Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Piner, KY Posts: 141	Drive shafts. DIY vs shops Need a new front drive shaft for my Toyota. The one I just slung out was a square tube shaft I threw together just to get on the trails. The factory slip isn't long enough any more. So my questions are. Are there any reputable drive line companies in the area that don't think their stuff is made of gold? Should I just buy one of the DIY kits from Marlin, trail gear or the like? This is off road only so it doesn't need to be balanced. Anything else that I should take into consideration? __________________ JT Jones 83 Toyota - beater 87 Toyota Truggy

11-27-2012, 11:41 PM	#2
Drivermod Join Date: May 2009 Location: Union, KY Posts: 225	Todd can build you one. Worth a call. __________________ Ian 06 Toyota 4Runner

11-28-2012, 08:48 PM	#6
twiztedzuki Join Date: May 2008 Location: Waverly ohio Posts: 586	i dont use 2" mayb of slip with 17" coilovers, i figured it was a leaf spring thing __________________ SMITH BUILT PERIOD

11-28-2012, 10:08 PM	#7
Jonesy Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Piner, KY Posts: 141	I may have something set up wrong. Current setup is a single case that has been tucked, RUF springs. Tried lengthing the stock drive shaft 2". It will fully compress the slip and pulls apart when it flexes out hard. All I know that is wrong is I need some degree shims to get the caster corrected, but that shouldn't effect the slip length. Any ideas? __________________ JT Jones 83 Toyota - beater 87 Toyota Truggy

11-28-2012, 10:33 PM	#8
underpowered They call me......Scuba Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Burlington, KY Posts: 292	the natural moion of leaves causes the need for exta slip. as leaves droop out, the axle will move forward as well as drop out, both will increase the length of the shaft. when it compresses the axle will move rearward as well as up, both of which shorten the shaft needed. between the two phenomenon alot more slipp will be used with rear-shackled leafs. with Links, the natural arc helps combat this as the axle does the opposite. as you droop, you axle moves back and down and under compression moves up and forward so the length of slip needed is decreased greatly with links over leaves. __________________ beat up rusted out k5

11-28-2012, 01:27 PM	#3
93 Krawler >>>PMC<<< - CORE Member - - Administrator - Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Ross, OH Posts: 2,069 Images: 1268	I prefer making my own and saving $$$$$

11-28-2012, 07:36 PM	#5
Nuts Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: middletown,oh Posts: 508	Do you have a shackle reverse? Why else would you need so much slip?

11-29-2012, 12:35 AM	#9
Nuts Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: middletown,oh Posts: 508	The natural motion of leaves set up in a shackle reverse type suspension will do that,which is why I asked, but after I reread the first post I saw it was a Toyota so it probably is shackle reverse. If that is the case I'd order a long spline kit and make my own drive shaft