clearance issue ?

beno · 04-03-2014, 01:43 AM

I finally got my new tires I have a ford 8.8 in the rear of my tj I have about a inch of clearance between tire and rear spring mount bracket that is welded to the frame if I air that tire down will it rub the mount I dont want that to happen as when I first got it going didnt have trackbar adjusted correctly and popped a buckshot mudder qr78 15lt that they dont make anymore any info is appreciated thx

WrenchMonkey · 04-03-2014, 01:53 AM

Airing down won't matter, but flexing out the suspension just might.

Robert

WrenchMonkey · 04-03-2014, 01:55 AM

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blazerbrad · 04-03-2014, 10:20 AM

Sounds like the mount you are talking about is towards the top of the tire and like said above airing down shouldn't matter.....but why don't you just air the tire down in the driveway and take a look? Also as said above I would be more concerned about what happens when the suspension is flexed out as when you cross the Jeep up the tire on the side stuffed up is angled closer in towards the frame and mounts.

beno · 04-04-2014, 12:56 AM

Yep that is me costly mistake so I ordered new tires and rims and it about killed me to do it had other plans for the jeep

WrenchMonkey · 04-04-2014, 01:07 AM

Maybe shoulda ordered some with a little less backspacing?

nshefbuch · 04-04-2014, 12:58 PM

Spacers wouldn't fix this?

beno · 04-04-2014, 02:23 PM

Kinda scared to use spacers doesnt seem like I read any thing good about them I have spacers that came with jeep I ordered rims with 3.5 backspacing I jacked up each side as far as I could and they dont hit I am a newb learning as I go trying to make safe reliable daily driver that can go offroad any help and advise is appreciated just trying to do it right the first time

WrenchMonkey · 04-04-2014, 03:44 PM

Sorry, I thought I read you still had 4.5"BS.

Jacking it up is a start, but if you can find somewhere to flex it up, it'll give you a better test. Roadside ditch, sloped loading dock, something.

If it turns out you do need them, spacers aren't as bad as they used to be. Gotta make sure you keep em torqued right, and check them occasionally. Pretty common solution for putting the narrower 8.8 in the TJ and XJ.

And doing stuff "right the first time" only means you were lucky! Experience is the best way to learn!

Robert

beno · 04-04-2014, 08:05 PM

It usually never works out the first time I have adjusted my front control arms about 4 times and I still think its wrong haha well actually I am not happy about it thinking of taken it to a shop to have my work double checked sorta frustrated jeep has been down about 5 mos except for my journey just to blowout tire

WrenchMonkey · 04-05-2014, 01:04 AM

Andy (monkeystrong) just took his TJ in for "professional" alignment, and the guys wouldn't touch his caster, because they didn't want to mess with the control arms. Just a heads up.

My experience, caster's not nearly as important as toe anyway, and you cam dial that in with a tape measure.

beno · 04-05-2014, 02:08 PM

Was thinking of possibly taking to a offroad shop just dont where to go I rode out to performance offroad in alexandria awhile ago and he scared me away with his prices seemed like he did good work I got my front lower control arms with 1.75 thread showing and per curries instruction it says no more than .75 thread should be showing fml

Ky Mudhunter · 04-05-2014, 03:33 PM

Take it to Steele's Hometown Tire in Burlington, Ky. I used to work there and the alignment guy there is one of the best I know of. Just tell him you think the control arms need adjusted and he won't have any problem doing it.

beno · 04-05-2014, 10:23 PM

Cool thanks man I will look into it

04-03-2014, 01:43 AM	#1
beno Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 11	clearance issue ? I finally got my new tires I have a ford 8.8 in the rear of my tj I have about a inch of clearance between tire and rear spring mount bracket that is welded to the frame if I air that tire down will it rub the mount I dont want that to happen as when I first got it going didnt have trackbar adjusted correctly and popped a buckshot mudder qr78 15lt that they dont make anymore any info is appreciated thx

04-03-2014, 01:53 AM	#2
WrenchMonkey Mechanical Animal - CORE Member - - Moderator - Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Beechmont Posts: 1,883	Airing down won't matter, but flexing out the suspension just might. Robert __________________ DIRTY DEEDS, DONE DIRT CHEAP Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stranger

04-03-2014, 01:55 AM	#3
WrenchMonkey Mechanical Animal - CORE Member - - Moderator - Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Beechmont Posts: 1,883	(So this is probably you? http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/pts/4403331797.html) __________________ DIRTY DEEDS, DONE DIRT CHEAP Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stranger

04-04-2014, 01:07 AM	#6
WrenchMonkey Mechanical Animal - CORE Member - - Moderator - Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Beechmont Posts: 1,883	Maybe shoulda ordered some with a little less backspacing? __________________ DIRTY DEEDS, DONE DIRT CHEAP Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stranger

04-04-2014, 03:44 PM	#9
WrenchMonkey Mechanical Animal - CORE Member - - Moderator - Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Beechmont Posts: 1,883	Sorry, I thought I read you still had 4.5"BS. Jacking it up is a start, but if you can find somewhere to flex it up, it'll give you a better test. Roadside ditch, sloped loading dock, something. If it turns out you do need them, spacers aren't as bad as they used to be. Gotta make sure you keep em torqued right, and check them occasionally. Pretty common solution for putting the narrower 8.8 in the TJ and XJ. And doing stuff "right the first time" only means you were lucky! Experience is the best way to learn! Robert __________________ DIRTY DEEDS, DONE DIRT CHEAP Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stranger

04-03-2014, 10:20 AM	#4
blazerbrad - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 831 Images: 6	Sounds like the mount you are talking about is towards the top of the tire and like said above airing down shouldn't matter.....but why don't you just air the tire down in the driveway and take a look? Also as said above I would be more concerned about what happens when the suspension is flexed out as when you cross the Jeep up the tire on the side stuffed up is angled closer in towards the frame and mounts.

04-04-2014, 12:56 AM	#5
beno Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 11	Yep that is me costly mistake so I ordered new tires and rims and it about killed me to do it had other plans for the jeep

04-04-2014, 12:58 PM	#7
nshefbuch Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: piqua, ohio Posts: 76	Spacers wouldn't fix this?

04-04-2014, 02:23 PM	#8
beno Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 11	Kinda scared to use spacers doesnt seem like I read any thing good about them I have spacers that came with jeep I ordered rims with 3.5 backspacing I jacked up each side as far as I could and they dont hit I am a newb learning as I go trying to make safe reliable daily driver that can go offroad any help and advise is appreciated just trying to do it right the first time

04-04-2014, 08:05 PM	#10
beno Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 11	It usually never works out the first time I have adjusted my front control arms about 4 times and I still think its wrong haha well actually I am not happy about it thinking of taken it to a shop to have my work double checked sorta frustrated jeep has been down about 5 mos except for my journey just to blowout tire

04-05-2014, 01:04 AM	#11
WrenchMonkey Mechanical Animal - CORE Member - - Moderator - Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Beechmont Posts: 1,883	Andy (monkeystrong) just took his TJ in for "professional" alignment, and the guys wouldn't touch his caster, because they didn't want to mess with the control arms. Just a heads up. My experience, caster's not nearly as important as toe anyway, and you cam dial that in with a tape measure. __________________ DIRTY DEEDS, DONE DIRT CHEAP Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stranger

04-05-2014, 02:08 PM	#12
beno Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 11	Was thinking of possibly taking to a offroad shop just dont where to go I rode out to performance offroad in alexandria awhile ago and he scared me away with his prices seemed like he did good work I got my front lower control arms with 1.75 thread showing and per curries instruction it says no more than .75 thread should be showing fml

04-05-2014, 03:33 PM	#13
Ky Mudhunter Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 75	Take it to Steele's Hometown Tire in Burlington, Ky. I used to work there and the alignment guy there is one of the best I know of. Just tell him you think the control arms need adjusted and he won't have any problem doing it.

04-05-2014, 10:23 PM	#14
beno Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 11	Cool thanks man I will look into it