Lug nuts shooting off!

94Dodge Truggy · 03-26-2008, 10:43 PM

Gots me a problem. Here and there lug nuts with half of the wheel stud either break off or just end up missing. They do not seem to be too tight and not too loose. The stud breaks right where the nut threads into them. The rims are chrome plated eagle rims. Wondering if the rims are expanding and contracting with heat or if it is a torque issue. The truck is an 06 dodge CTD. Need to figure this out before I loose all of my studs. Missing 2 on one rear wheel and worried about towing 11,000lbs. Dealership (steelership) not too happy with all of the trucks mods and sceered to touch it. I am planning on replacing the studs on the rear wheel friday before the trip if the studs can be located. Anyone heard of this dilema?

KargoMaster · 03-26-2008, 11:29 PM

Deja Vu... didn't you have this problem when you first got it... ??

Or is this the same problem?

4RunnerAdam · 03-27-2008, 05:54 AM

I used to work at Beechmont Toyota and one of the service writers would bring in his Dodge Durango with broken rear wheel studs all the time. He told me "any good Dodge owner carries extra wheel studs with him at all times" and that Dodges are known to break wheel studs. I personally replaced 2 on 2 separate occasions. So, maybe its a Dodge thing?

94Dodge Truggy · 03-27-2008, 07:54 AM

I have owned 10+ dodge trucks in the past 6 years and this is the first time I have had a problem.

tjjeepjeep · 03-27-2008, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by KargoMaster

Deja Vu... didn't you have this problem when you first got it... ??

Or is this the same problem?

x2 seemed familiar to me as well

GPER · 03-27-2008, 08:22 AM

The contractor I work for has a fleet of the Dodge trucks of all years and sizes. I have been there 10 years and I have never heard of them popping lug nuts off. They do have to rebuilt the front ends all the time but no lug nuts.

94Dodge Truggy · 03-27-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tjjeepjeep

x2 seemed familiar to me as well

Yeah Yeah. I lost one early on as well. May have to put the rockwell axles under the truck!

Stang849 · 03-27-2008, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GPER

I have never heard of them popping lug nuts off. They do have to rebuilt the front ends all the time but no lug nuts.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with his driving habits.

:p

jfiscus · 03-27-2008, 09:23 AM

Are you sure that they are the correct "shape" lugnuts for tha tparticular wheel?
I know that some wheels are very particular about how the lugnuts seat & center themselves in the holes. This is mostly on thicker wheels like aluminum though from my experience.

94Dodge Truggy · 03-27-2008, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfiscus

Are you sure that they are the correct "shape" lugnuts for tha tparticular wheel?
I know that some wheels are very particular about how the lugnuts seat & center themselves in the holes. This is mostly on thicker wheels like aluminum though from my experience.

Not sure enough on that. I was supposed to get stainless hardware when I ordered the wheels and got chrome :mad: . I will check that out.

carwash · 03-27-2008, 11:16 AM

i would measure the seat radius/angle of the lug and on the wheel. I would bet they don't match, and you are only making contact at a very minimal point with them, causing undue stress to them.

also, put your lugs on with a torque wrench, and i don't think it will happen again. broken studs (especially on newer vehicle) are often due to overtightening.

fabricator · 03-27-2008, 11:18 AM

ask Tinbeater, maybe he can ask some of the tech's at his work, he also works for a dodge dealer

tinbeater · 03-27-2008, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4RunnerAdam

I used to work at Beechmont Toyota and one of the service writers would bring in his Dodge Durango with broken rear wheel studs all the time. He told me "any good Dodge owner carries extra wheel studs with him at all times" and that Dodges are known to break wheel studs. I personally replaced 2 on 2 separate occasions. So, maybe its a Dodge thing?

Worked for a dodge dealer for 23 years, thats news to me.

94Dodge Truggy · 03-28-2008, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinbeater

Worked for a dodge dealer for 23 years, thats news to me.

Whats the torque specs for an 06 2500 with aluminum or steel rims? Any idea.

4RunnerAdam · 03-28-2008, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinbeater

Worked for a dodge dealer for 23 years, thats news to me.

Hmm...I guess the guy was an idiot. That wouldnt surprise me!

94Dodge Truggy · 03-28-2008, 11:27 AM

Planning on fixing these broken studs before I leave tonight on a 3 hour tour and torque them to 100 ft. lbs.. I will check on my insurance and medical coverage before I go though. :o

carwash · 03-28-2008, 11:56 AM

you got AAA ?

94Dodge Truggy · 03-28-2008, 12:36 PM

I had AA before and ADD once too.

tinbeater · 03-28-2008, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 94Dodge Truggy

Whats the torque specs for an 06 2500 with aluminum or steel rims? Any idea.

90 ft/lbs.

fabricator · 03-29-2008, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 4RunnerAdam

Hmm...I guess the guy was an idiot. That wouldnt surprise me!

What a fawkin smart ass.

I guess the sun rises and sets on your ass.......

94Dodge Truggy · 03-30-2008, 10:32 PM

Been torqing em at 180 ft lbs :o

Got em at 120 now :)

03-26-2008, 10:43 PM	#1
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	Lug nuts shooting off! Gots me a problem. Here and there lug nuts with half of the wheel stud either break off or just end up missing. They do not seem to be too tight and not too loose. The stud breaks right where the nut threads into them. The rims are chrome plated eagle rims. Wondering if the rims are expanding and contracting with heat or if it is a torque issue. The truck is an 06 dodge CTD. Need to figure this out before I loose all of my studs. Missing 2 on one rear wheel and worried about towing 11,000lbs. Dealership (steelership) not too happy with all of the trucks mods and sceered to touch it. I am planning on replacing the studs on the rear wheel friday before the trip if the studs can be located. Anyone heard of this dilema?

03-26-2008, 11:29 PM	#2
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03-27-2008, 11:16 AM	#11
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	i would measure the seat radius/angle of the lug and on the wheel. I would bet they don't match, and you are only making contact at a very minimal point with them, causing undue stress to them. also, put your lugs on with a torque wrench, and i don't think it will happen again. broken studs (especially on newer vehicle) are often due to overtightening. __________________

03-27-2008, 11:18 AM	#12
fabricator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cincy, Oh Posts: 947	ask Tinbeater, maybe he can ask some of the tech's at his work, he also works for a dodge dealer __________________ For you guys who can't drive, I have owned a frame rack for several years. Prices are based on your skill and ability to wreck it....

03-28-2008, 11:56 AM	#17
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	you got AAA ? __________________

03-27-2008, 05:54 AM	#3
4RunnerAdam Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: near eastgate mall Posts: 171	I used to work at Beechmont Toyota and one of the service writers would bring in his Dodge Durango with broken rear wheel studs all the time. He told me "any good Dodge owner carries extra wheel studs with him at all times" and that Dodges are known to break wheel studs. I personally replaced 2 on 2 separate occasions. So, maybe its a Dodge thing?

03-27-2008, 07:54 AM	#4
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	I have owned 10+ dodge trucks in the past 6 years and this is the first time I have had a problem.

03-27-2008, 08:22 AM	#6
GPER Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 811	The contractor I work for has a fleet of the Dodge trucks of all years and sizes. I have been there 10 years and I have never heard of them popping lug nuts off. They do have to rebuilt the front ends all the time but no lug nuts.

03-27-2008, 09:23 AM	#9
jfiscus Terrain Stomper Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Crittenden, KY Posts: 633	Are you sure that they are the correct "shape" lugnuts for tha tparticular wheel? I know that some wheels are very particular about how the lugnuts seat & center themselves in the holes. This is mostly on thicker wheels like aluminum though from my experience.

03-28-2008, 11:27 AM	#16
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	Planning on fixing these broken studs before I leave tonight on a 3 hour tour and torque them to 100 ft. lbs.. I will check on my insurance and medical coverage before I go though. :o

03-28-2008, 12:36 PM	#18
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	I had AA before and ADD once too.

03-30-2008, 10:32 PM	#21
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	Been torqing em at 180 ft lbs :o Got em at 120 now :)