Leafspring again!

cincygman · 02-10-2009, 09:53 PM

OK peeps, I broke another leafspring :( (the driverside this time) front eyelet.
I've seen a few mentions of using the leafs off of a dodge van but not what kind of dodge van. Does anyone have that info?

02-10-2009, 10:42 PM

I used the leaves from a mid 90's dakota pickup to get 4 inch of lift. I had to use my xj main spring and I cut the dakota main spring to fit and used all but the overload spring from the dakota pack. not sure about van springs though

Bear Chow · 02-11-2009, 07:31 AM

sounds like you may want to stop buying things from a junk yard and get something with a warranty. like into military wrap springs.

cincygman · 02-11-2009, 08:00 AM

so I need to take the whole Cherokee back?:confused: Since they are the stock springs that came on the rig.:( and I got the last replacement from Sarge. (many thanks again Sarge) I've read about the dakota springs but some where out there is info on using a van leaf because it is longer behind the centerpin and gives a better rear shackle angle. Someone out there knows!

Bear Chow · 02-11-2009, 08:12 AM

I have never heard of a van springs except, Astro/safari coil van springs make a good setup for if/when you want to go coils and linked. I have heard of regular use with waggy, dakota and F150 (these have recently become pretty popular).

Sorry I can't help you any more than that.

WrenchMonkey · 02-11-2009, 12:30 PM

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=949841

Robert

Flxratd · 02-11-2009, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cincygman

so I need to take the whole Cherokee back?:confused: Since they are the stock springs that came on the rig.:( and I got the last replacement from Sarge. (many thanks again Sarge) I've read about the dakota springs but some where out there is info on using a van leaf because it is longer behind the centerpin and gives a better rear shackle angle. Someone out there knows!

i also thought that people were using s10 leaf packs and adding to the xj main spring ? fiscus should chime in since he has done many xj setups

cincygman · 02-11-2009, 11:58 PM

Man, I just spent 45 minutes reading the NAXJA thread and I still don't have the final solution:confused: but they did mention S10 springpacks also. Thanks for the help guys, I'll keep searching

Rubi06 · 02-12-2009, 11:29 PM

I used S10 on mine. They work great just don't use too many.

cincygman · 02-13-2009, 08:14 AM

Your rig has a real nice stance to it, even when its got a tree wedged into the front fender:) (new years day) So how many leafs did you use and what combination, all S10 or just the S10 main leaf? Did you end up with more lift? So many questions, so little patience

sarge · 02-13-2009, 11:45 AM

yes post more info on the S-10 packs , I seem to be killing the XJ packs way to quickly . the wrangler has a bad lean because one of my packs is weak , after one trip to 909. I'm going to add a leaf from something , just don't no what yet.

Rubi06 · 02-14-2009, 01:18 AM

i used my xj main then alternated with the s10 and xj all the way down. Second leaf is the s10 main with the eyes cut off. I have 6 in there now and it's too stiff so i'm going to probably take one of the s10's out. I'll see if i can find the pics to add. It added around 4" or so of lift.

I know not of this tree you talk about.

KargoMaster · 02-14-2009, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilbluexj

I have 6 in there now and it's too stiff...

Reminds me of Sarge's old Yellow XJ-ish rig in the '03 video...
with me, running for my life when it spit a yoke/output on Big Wally...

good times.

sarge · 02-14-2009, 01:45 AM

HA , now that was a stiff ride ....... I can still see it in slow motion .... OH wait it was in slow motion on the video ....

carwash · 02-14-2009, 08:15 AM

i dont think that was sarge's on big wally... that was a brown one i thought, someone that came along with sarge's brother or something... does sarge even have a brother?

sarge · 02-14-2009, 09:14 PM

that was ME ! it's on the 2003 video or was it 2004 .... what ever was the last time we did a nice end of year video. And yes I have a brother , he wheeled a blue XJ

cincygman · 02-15-2009, 10:39 PM

2003-2004 whatever it takes:confused: anyway, the problem I have is that the mainleaf is broken. So I need to replace the thing anyway and since I'm going to be there, I was looking for mods that would improve the wheeling ability of this 1st gen rig. If that is even a posibility. The dodge van main leaf sounded good at first but not if I have to buy the aftermarket rear shackles and change bushings and so on. I was satisfied with the stock springs and a three inch aal. I was checking pictures from when I first got this thing put back together and saw the left side wheel moved forward in the wheelwell. So it was probably already broke when I got it, just to noticeable until wheeling it. For now I am going to go with another set of stock springs and maybe play with adding another short leaf to help with loading up with trail gear.:)

Wow, did I just type all of that?

02-10-2009, 09:53 PM	#1
cincygman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Pleasant Run Farms (near Fairfield) Posts: 378	Leafspring again! OK peeps, I broke another leafspring :( (the driverside this time) front eyelet. I've seen a few mentions of using the leafs off of a dodge van but not what kind of dodge van. Does anyone have that info? __________________ Romans 7-8

02-11-2009, 08:00 AM	#4
cincygman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Pleasant Run Farms (near Fairfield) Posts: 378	so I need to take the whole Cherokee back?:confused: Since they are the stock springs that came on the rig.:( and I got the last replacement from Sarge. (many thanks again Sarge) I've read about the dakota springs but some where out there is info on using a van leaf because it is longer behind the centerpin and gives a better rear shackle angle. Someone out there knows! __________________ Romans 7-8

02-11-2009, 12:30 PM	#6
WrenchMonkey Mechanical Animal - CORE Member - - Moderator - Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Beechmont Posts: 1,883	http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=949841 Robert __________________ DIRTY DEEDS, DONE DIRT CHEAP Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stranger

02-11-2009, 11:58 PM	#8
cincygman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Pleasant Run Farms (near Fairfield) Posts: 378	Man, I just spent 45 minutes reading the NAXJA thread and I still don't have the final solution:confused: but they did mention S10 springpacks also. Thanks for the help guys, I'll keep searching __________________ Romans 7-8

02-13-2009, 08:14 AM	#10
cincygman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Pleasant Run Farms (near Fairfield) Posts: 378	Your rig has a real nice stance to it, even when its got a tree wedged into the front fender:) (new years day) So how many leafs did you use and what combination, all S10 or just the S10 main leaf? Did you end up with more lift? So many questions, so little patience __________________ Romans 7-8

02-10-2009, 10:42 PM	#2
tony Guest Posts: n/a	I used the leaves from a mid 90's dakota pickup to get 4 inch of lift. I had to use my xj main spring and I cut the dakota main spring to fit and used all but the overload spring from the dakota pack. not sure about van springs though

02-11-2009, 07:31 AM	#3
Bear Chow Jeepless Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oxford, Oh Posts: 302	sounds like you may want to stop buying things from a junk yard and get something with a warranty. like into military wrap springs.

02-11-2009, 08:12 AM	#5
Bear Chow Jeepless Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Oxford, Oh Posts: 302	I have never heard of a van springs except, Astro/safari coil van springs make a good setup for if/when you want to go coils and linked. I have heard of regular use with waggy, dakota and F150 (these have recently become pretty popular). Sorry I can't help you any more than that.

02-12-2009, 11:29 PM	#9
Rubi06 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lebanon, Ohio Posts: 114 Images: 53	I used S10 on mine. They work great just don't use too many.

02-13-2009, 11:45 AM	#11
sarge Pure Bacon Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trenton, Oh Posts: 1,098	yes post more info on the S-10 packs , I seem to be killing the XJ packs way to quickly . the wrangler has a bad lean because one of my packs is weak , after one trip to 909. I'm going to add a leaf from something , just don't no what yet.

02-14-2009, 01:18 AM	#12
Rubi06 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lebanon, Ohio Posts: 114 Images: 53	i used my xj main then alternated with the s10 and xj all the way down. Second leaf is the s10 main with the eyes cut off. I have 6 in there now and it's too stiff so i'm going to probably take one of the s10's out. I'll see if i can find the pics to add. It added around 4" or so of lift. I know not of this tree you talk about. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Rubi06; 02-14-2009 at 01:23 AM. Reason: add pics

02-14-2009, 01:45 AM	#14
sarge Pure Bacon Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trenton, Oh Posts: 1,098	HA , now that was a stiff ride ....... I can still see it in slow motion .... OH wait it was in slow motion on the video ....

02-14-2009, 08:15 AM	#15
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	i dont think that was sarge's on big wally... that was a brown one i thought, someone that came along with sarge's brother or something... does sarge even have a brother? __________________

02-14-2009, 09:14 PM	#16
sarge Pure Bacon Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trenton, Oh Posts: 1,098	that was ME ! it's on the 2003 video or was it 2004 .... what ever was the last time we did a nice end of year video. And yes I have a brother , he wheeled a blue XJ

02-15-2009, 10:39 PM	#17
cincygman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Pleasant Run Farms (near Fairfield) Posts: 378	2003-2004 whatever it takes:confused: anyway, the problem I have is that the mainleaf is broken. So I need to replace the thing anyway and since I'm going to be there, I was looking for mods that would improve the wheeling ability of this 1st gen rig. If that is even a posibility. The dodge van main leaf sounded good at first but not if I have to buy the aftermarket rear shackles and change bushings and so on. I was satisfied with the stock springs and a three inch aal. I was checking pictures from when I first got this thing put back together and saw the left side wheel moved forward in the wheelwell. So it was probably already broke when I got it, just to noticeable until wheeling it. For now I am going to go with another set of stock springs and maybe play with adding another short leaf to help with loading up with trail gear.:) Wow, did I just type all of that? __________________ Romans 7-8