Pressing or beating AMC 20 axle bearing on

GPER · 02-12-2009, 03:40 PM

I was watching the Scout build link and at the end it showed what looked to be them beating the axle bearing on the 44 axle shaft with a piece of pipe.

Does the 44 bearing go on with less force then the AMC 20 bearing?????? I have been told beating a bearing on is a no no, but I have the bearing beater ready to go when I do mine.

Should I have it and the keeper ring pressed on or would you beat them on??????????

KargoMaster · 02-12-2009, 05:27 PM

<--- in favor of using a press for anything that needs pressed....
but I will resort to whatever gets the job done.

JeepHD · 02-12-2009, 06:10 PM

Press make the job much easier with less chance of bearing damage.

94Dodge Truggy · 02-12-2009, 08:36 PM

If you plan on beating the bearing on use some heat to help out. ;)

carwash · 02-12-2009, 10:32 PM

if you do have to beat a bearing on... do it with a piece of tube that contacts the inner race, it's the strongest part of the bearing. YOu dont want to push on the balls/needles or the outer race. I don't agree with heat to install a bearing at all either, not direct extreme torch heat anyway. Acceptable to heat one up in an oven to expand it.

but, don't be a retard, use a press. If you don't have, get a friend with one, come down and use mine, whatever... the word "beating" should never be used with bearings unless you need to beat one off of something.

superjeep · 02-15-2009, 04:10 PM

Heat a pan of oil and put the bearing in it by hanging it with coat hanger so not to sit on bottom to install. This will heat the whole bearing and not just one side .Depending on style of bearing and weither or not its got seals or not. (rubber seal or metal seal )

depending on size of bearing but from 100 deg to 350 deg will work . Any more
you can destroy bearing by possibly removing heatreat from steel.

We actually used a turkey fryer set up to do ours and be carefull not to burn the oil so whatever oil you are using make sure it can handle the heat you will be applying to it.

Shawn

carwash · 02-15-2009, 07:07 PM

turkey fryer of oil... genius shawn, thanks. in my book of tips now.

GPER · 02-15-2009, 07:17 PM

I bought a turkey fryer last year and like a smoked turkey better. Now that I bought a new smoker that is a good idea for the freier.

acousticrawk · 02-18-2009, 06:35 PM

i have tapped them in before with no troubles. just use and ruber mallet loaded with shot or sand and a pipe the some size as the inner race made from a slightly softer metal. take your time and tap it in slow. oven baking works well too. dad used to actually heat motor oil in one of moms old cast iron pots (that she dropped and chipped the edge off of) and float the bearing in the middle of the oil suspended with a coat hanger. always worked for him, and to this day still seems fine (rebuilt his 44's about 8-10 years ago?) under is 70 land crusher...err... cruiser. haha.

GPER · 02-18-2009, 08:49 PM

I had to cut the end off of my bearing beater to make a thing to hold the crank on the Camry. It worked good on the cam sprocket too so didn't have to pull the valve cover again. Anyway I need to true the end of the bearing beater again, but that is a good use for the deep fryer.

Flxratd · 02-19-2009, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPER

I had to cut the end off of my bearing beater to make a thing to hold the crank on the Camry. It worked good on the cam sprocket too so didn't have to pull the valve cover again. Anyway I need to true the end of the bearing beater again, but that is a good use for the deep fryer.

yum chicken fried bearing beaters are my favorite

carwash · 02-19-2009, 11:08 AM

does no one own a shop press? it's an invaluable tool.

acousticrawk · 02-20-2009, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carwash

does no one own a shop press? it's an invaluable tool.

I DO!!! the pump (gaint jack cylinder) leaks and needs rebuilt though... :mad:

thats what i get for buying second hand i suppose:o

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...temnumber=4711

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=33497

if you where industrious enough, you could make your own!

carwash · 02-20-2009, 03:19 PM

yes, you can build your own, but by the time you buy your i-beams, the steel, the solid rod, the springs, the flat plate for arbors, the jack etc, Yer just as good going with harbor freight. Just watch those arbors, i have heard of them exploding. thread on pirate somewhere.

GPER · 02-20-2009, 03:42 PM

I read that thread and the 20 ton will be on sale in March for about 200 bucks I think that add said. I have thought about one, but don't have the room for that too.

KargoMaster · 02-20-2009, 04:01 PM

make room, it's THAT nice to have.

GPER · 02-20-2009, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KargoMaster

make room, it's THAT nice to have.

I would only use it once every nine years.

carwash · 02-21-2009, 06:31 PM

you would use it more than that, trust me.

tjjeepjeep · 02-22-2009, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPER

I would only use it once every nine years.

My guess is you have friends that would use it...or you'd suddenly gain friends who need to use it. Something like that...

acousticrawk · 02-22-2009, 04:11 PM

i used mine for all sorts of **** before it died (it was used, so i didnt kill it) sometimes when we could get bored we would put cans of soup in it and stuff.... trust me, it has TONS of used... even can make a decent vice or press if you have some die's you can stamp stuff!

itbrokeagain · 02-22-2009, 04:25 PM

Carwash, how big was the press you had when you lived at that condo?

GPER · 02-22-2009, 10:33 PM

To buy the press or to buy two front shocks for the Polaris:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Flxratd · 02-23-2009, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPER

To buy the press or to buy two front shocks for the Polaris:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

buy the press you can store it at my place

acousticrawk · 02-23-2009, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPER

To buy the press or to buy two front shocks for the Polaris:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

haha, how much can those shocks be?!?!

GPER · 02-23-2009, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acousticrawk

haha, how much can those shocks be?!?!

Polaris want 90 some dollars each, I did find a pair on e bay for 144.

02-12-2009, 03:40 PM	#1
GPER Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 811	Pressing or beating AMC 20 axle bearing on I was watching the Scout build link and at the end it showed what looked to be them beating the axle bearing on the 44 axle shaft with a piece of pipe. Does the 44 bearing go on with less force then the AMC 20 bearing?????? I have been told beating a bearing on is a no no, but I have the bearing beater ready to go when I do mine. Should I have it and the keeper ring pressed on or would you beat them on??????????

02-12-2009, 05:27 PM	#2
KargoMaster Cleaning off the rust... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,009	<--- in favor of using a press for anything that needs pressed.... but I will resort to whatever gets the job done. __________________ brad 5.0L \| 435 \| 203 \| 300 \| 4.10 \| 39.5 Buildup BACK underway...

02-12-2009, 06:10 PM	#3
JeepHD www.buckeyejeepers.com Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Houston, OH 45333 Posts: 276	Press make the job much easier with less chance of bearing damage. __________________ 1994 YJ, 4.0, 5 speed. *2006 Dodge 2500 Cummins, 4x4 Auto,Quad cab, LongBed, Tekonsha Prodigy(Tow Rig)

02-12-2009, 08:36 PM	#4
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	If you plan on beating the bearing on use some heat to help out. ;) __________________

02-12-2009, 10:32 PM	#5
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	if you do have to beat a bearing on... do it with a piece of tube that contacts the inner race, it's the strongest part of the bearing. YOu dont want to push on the balls/needles or the outer race. I don't agree with heat to install a bearing at all either, not direct extreme torch heat anyway. Acceptable to heat one up in an oven to expand it. but, don't be a retard, use a press. If you don't have, get a friend with one, come down and use mine, whatever... the word "beating" should never be used with bearings unless you need to beat one off of something. __________________

02-15-2009, 04:10 PM	#6
superjeep Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 88	Heat a pan of oil and put the bearing in it by hanging it with coat hanger so not to sit on bottom to install. This will heat the whole bearing and not just one side .Depending on style of bearing and weither or not its got seals or not. (rubber seal or metal seal ) depending on size of bearing but from 100 deg to 350 deg will work . Any more you can destroy bearing by possibly removing heatreat from steel. We actually used a turkey fryer set up to do ours and be carefull not to burn the oil so whatever oil you are using make sure it can handle the heat you will be applying to it. Shawn

02-15-2009, 07:07 PM	#7
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	turkey fryer of oil... genius shawn, thanks. in my book of tips now. __________________

02-15-2009, 07:17 PM	#8
GPER Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 811	I bought a turkey fryer last year and like a smoked turkey better. Now that I bought a new smoker that is a good idea for the freier.

02-18-2009, 06:35 PM	#9
acousticrawk The MacDaddy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Price Hill, (Cincinnati) Posts: 63	i have tapped them in before with no troubles. just use and ruber mallet loaded with shot or sand and a pipe the some size as the inner race made from a slightly softer metal. take your time and tap it in slow. oven baking works well too. dad used to actually heat motor oil in one of moms old cast iron pots (that she dropped and chipped the edge off of) and float the bearing in the middle of the oil suspended with a coat hanger. always worked for him, and to this day still seems fine (rebuilt his 44's about 8-10 years ago?) under is 70 land crusher...err... cruiser. haha. __________________ http://springfieldohiojeepers.freeforums.org/index.php Last edited by acousticrawk; 02-18-2009 at 06:51 PM.

02-18-2009, 08:49 PM	#10
GPER Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 811	I had to cut the end off of my bearing beater to make a thing to hold the crank on the Camry. It worked good on the cam sprocket too so didn't have to pull the valve cover again. Anyway I need to true the end of the bearing beater again, but that is a good use for the deep fryer.

02-19-2009, 11:08 AM	#12
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	does no one own a shop press? it's an invaluable tool. __________________

02-20-2009, 03:19 PM	#14
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	yes, you can build your own, but by the time you buy your i-beams, the steel, the solid rod, the springs, the flat plate for arbors, the jack etc, Yer just as good going with harbor freight. Just watch those arbors, i have heard of them exploding. thread on pirate somewhere. __________________

02-20-2009, 03:42 PM	#15
GPER Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 811	I read that thread and the 20 ton will be on sale in March for about 200 bucks I think that add said. I have thought about one, but don't have the room for that too.

02-20-2009, 04:01 PM	#16
KargoMaster Cleaning off the rust... Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 1,009	make room, it's THAT nice to have. __________________ brad 5.0L \| 435 \| 203 \| 300 \| 4.10 \| 39.5 Buildup BACK underway...

02-21-2009, 06:31 PM	#18
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	you would use it more than that, trust me. __________________

02-22-2009, 04:11 PM	#20
acousticrawk The MacDaddy Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Price Hill, (Cincinnati) Posts: 63	i used mine for all sorts of **** before it died (it was used, so i didnt kill it) sometimes when we could get bored we would put cans of soup in it and stuff.... trust me, it has TONS of used... even can make a decent vice or press if you have some die's you can stamp stuff! __________________ http://springfieldohiojeepers.freeforums.org/index.php

02-22-2009, 04:25 PM	#21
itbrokeagain Just Empty Every Pocket - CORE Member - Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Amelia Posts: 1,435	Carwash, how big was the press you had when you lived at that condo? __________________ 91 fj 80 on 37 Nitto Muds with a 10k winch. Cage and sliders coming soon.

02-22-2009, 10:33 PM	#22
GPER Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Kettering, Ohio Posts: 811	To buy the press or to buy two front shocks for the Polaris:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: