Biggin's Sammy-ish Build

biggin69 · 12-02-2009, 08:34 PM

Here are a few pics of my build. I am taking everything (drivetrain) out of my Sammy and putting it all in the new chassis I picked up. Some pics are cell phone pics and are not the greatest. I will keep it updated as I go.

Specs: Dana 44's front and rear, 5.13 gears, 1.6l 8v, stock Sammy trans., Sammy transer case w/ 4:1 gears, 4 link rear, YJ's front, full hydro steering, all sitting on 36" tires.

carwash · 12-02-2009, 10:10 PM

Looks as tho you weren't to far off from a buggy to start with, what do you hope to gain with this new buggy chassis that you don't currently have?

biggin69 · 12-03-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by carwash

Looks as tho you weren't to far off from a buggy to start with, what do you hope to gain with this new buggy chassis that you don't currently have?

The old tubing was actually pipe which I did not like. I did not feel that it was safe. I do not have the capabilities to build a buggy from scratch. Safety is my main concern plus I enjoy working on this thing as much as I enjoy driving it.

biggin69 · 12-27-2009, 03:33 PM

Got the motor in the new chassis this weekend. I had to order a new rear seal for the tranny so it and the t-case will go in this week.

uglyoffroad · 12-27-2009, 04:13 PM

Did you get that chassis from a guy in richmond ky? It looks just like one that was for sale on craigslist over there. If it is the same guy, I have bought a few parts off of him in the past.

biggin69 · 12-27-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by uglyoffroad

Did you get that chassis from a guy in richmond ky? It looks just like one that was for sale on craigslist over there. If it is the same guy, I have bought a few parts off of him in the past.

I got it from a guy in Indy who got it from the guy in Richmond.

biggin69 · 03-17-2010, 07:31 PM

Been awhile since I have had time to work on the rig bu I am starting to get back at it.

What material should I use for the four links? I want to try and keep it as light as possible.

94Dodge Truggy · 03-17-2010, 10:08 PM

7075 aluminum or titanium!

biggin69 · 03-18-2010, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 94Dodge Truggy

7075 aluminum or titanium!

I am sure titanium is expensive...

biggin69 · 03-29-2010, 04:34 PM

Alright, I now have tme to work on my rig. Getting ready to work on the suspension. I am thinking of ditching the 1.6 8v and Sammy trans for a Chevy 4.3 backed with an automatic tranny. What are your guys opinions on this and whattrans would be goog? I am thinking of keeping the Sammy t-case divorced so ???

Hope Springs Hauler · 03-29-2010, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by biggin69

Alright, I now have tme to work on my rig. Getting ready to work on the suspension. I am thinking of ditching the 1.6 8v and Sammy trans for a Chevy 4.3 backed with an automatic tranny. What are your guys opinions on this and whattrans would be goog? I am thinking of keeping the Sammy t-case divorced so ???

Find me if you are getting rid of the 1.6 8v. I am just down the street.

The T350 is simple cheap and reliable.

biggin69 · 03-29-2010, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hope Springs Hauler

Find me if you are getting rid of the 1.6 8v. I am just down the street.

The T350 is simple cheap and reliable.

I will keep you in mind. Is the T350 able to bolt to a 4.3?

Hope Springs Hauler · 03-29-2010, 08:56 PM

I beleive so. They are the SBC of V6's

http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...l_block_v6.htm

gothodgie · 03-29-2010, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by biggin69

I will keep you in mind. Is the T350 able to bolt to a 4.3?

if i remember right the 4.3 and sbc are the same motor just 4.3 has 2 less cylinders so you can use any of the old style trans.... T350, T400, 700r4, etc...

tinbeater · 03-29-2010, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by biggin69

Alright, I now have tme to work on my rig. Getting ready to work on the suspension. I am thinking of ditching the 1.6 8v and Sammy trans for a Chevy 4.3 backed with an automatic tranny. What are your guys opinions on this and whattrans would be goog? I am thinking of keeping the Sammy t-case divorced so ???

The Samurai t-case wont last long behind a 4.3.

biggin69 · 03-30-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tinbeater

The Samurai t-case wont last long behind a 4.3.

So, what would you recommend? A NP205 or 203? Or.....?

humpy · 03-30-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tinbeater

The Samurai t-case wont last long behind a 4.3.

x2...prob break it loadin it on the trailer...

biggin69 · 03-30-2010, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by humpy

x2...prob break it loadin it on the trailer...

biggin69 · 05-11-2010, 09:01 PM

Well it has been awhile since I have updated this thread but I have not had very much time to work on it. I finally got the rear end in. Thanks for the tubing Mike! The rear is pretty much done besides mounting the coils.

I am hoping to have the front in by the end of the week.

mckeddie · 05-11-2010, 10:56 PM

your gonna wanna tie that trus in somewhere else, or your going to twist it right off.

biggin69 · 05-12-2010, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mckeddie

your gonna wanna tie that trus in somewhere else, or your going to twist it right off.

What about something like this? Basically bend another identical tube, weld it to the axle at 90 deg. and tie the two together...

biggin69 · 05-12-2010, 07:29 PM

Or this? I have a couple diff rings that I could use. Weld a tab on the truss tube and bolt it to the diff rig that has a tab on it?

RD TRCTR · 05-13-2010, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by biggin69

What about something like this? Basically bend another identical tube, weld it to the axle at 90 deg. and tie the two together...

I vote for this as this should be indestrcutible.

Hope Springs Hauler · 05-13-2010, 09:30 AM

be careful about option 1. Remember to plan it so you can still service the diff.

biggin69 · 05-13-2010, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hope Springs Hauler

be careful about option 1. Remember to plan it so you can still service the diff.

That is where I am at now. I do not know what to do. I am hoping to get it sitting on its own wieght this weekend and then I will work on the details....

12-02-2009, 08:34 PM	#1
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	Biggin's Sammy-ish Build Here are a few pics of my build. I am taking everything (drivetrain) out of my Sammy and putting it all in the new chassis I picked up. Some pics are cell phone pics and are not the greatest. I will keep it updated as I go. Specs: Dana 44's front and rear, 5.13 gears, 1.6l 8v, stock Sammy trans., Sammy transer case w/ 4:1 gears, 4 link rear, YJ's front, full hydro steering, all sitting on 36" tires. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images Last edited by biggin69; 12-02-2009 at 08:45 PM.

12-02-2009, 10:10 PM	#2
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	Looks as tho you weren't to far off from a buggy to start with, what do you hope to gain with this new buggy chassis that you don't currently have? __________________

12-27-2009, 03:33 PM	#4
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	Update... Got the motor in the new chassis this weekend. I had to order a new rear seal for the tranny so it and the t-case will go in this week.

12-27-2009, 04:13 PM	#5
uglyoffroad Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Harrodsburg Ky. Posts: 45	Did you get that chassis from a guy in richmond ky? It looks just like one that was for sale on craigslist over there. If it is the same guy, I have bought a few parts off of him in the past. __________________ UGLY OFFROAD

03-17-2010, 10:08 PM	#8
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	7075 aluminum or titanium! __________________

03-17-2010, 07:31 PM	#7
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	Been awhile since I have had time to work on the rig bu I am starting to get back at it. What material should I use for the four links? I want to try and keep it as light as possible.

03-29-2010, 04:34 PM	#10
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	Alright, I now have tme to work on my rig. Getting ready to work on the suspension. I am thinking of ditching the 1.6 8v and Sammy trans for a Chevy 4.3 backed with an automatic tranny. What are your guys opinions on this and whattrans would be goog? I am thinking of keeping the Sammy t-case divorced so ???

03-29-2010, 08:56 PM	#13
Hope Springs Hauler Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 431 Images: 16	I beleive so. They are the SBC of V6's http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge...l_block_v6.htm __________________ 1988 Suzuki Samurai on propane FJ 40 axles (4.10) 5.14 tcase 36" TSL SX

05-11-2010, 09:01 PM	#19
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	Update... Well it has been awhile since I have updated this thread but I have not had very much time to work on it. I finally got the rear end in. Thanks for the tubing Mike! The rear is pretty much done besides mounting the coils. I am hoping to have the front in by the end of the week. Attached Thumbnails

05-11-2010, 10:56 PM	#20
mckeddie Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: van wert oh Posts: 583	your gonna wanna tie that trus in somewhere else, or your going to twist it right off. __________________ zuk buggy.....it'll be a jeep eventually.

05-12-2010, 07:29 PM	#22
biggin69 Really??? Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Cincy Posts: 678	Or this? I have a couple diff rings that I could use. Weld a tab on the truss tube and bolt it to the diff rig that has a tab on it? Attached Thumbnails

05-13-2010, 09:30 AM	#24
Hope Springs Hauler Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Hamilton, OH Posts: 431 Images: 16	be careful about option 1. Remember to plan it so you can still service the diff. __________________ 1988 Suzuki Samurai on propane FJ 40 axles (4.10) 5.14 tcase 36" TSL SX