Lift laws

[itbrokeagain]

I thought this would be some very good info to have


http://www.liftlaws.com/ohio_lift_laws.htm
http://www.liftlaws.com/kentucky_lift_laws.htm
http://www.liftlaws.com/indiana_lift_laws.htm

[Hope Springs Hauler]

Originally Posted by itbrokeagain

I thought this would be some very good info to have


http://www.liftlaws.com/ohio_lift_laws.htm
http://www.liftlaws.com/kentucky_lift_laws.htm
http://www.liftlaws.com/indiana_lift_laws.htm

It is a great format, but the technical data is incorrect. There are bumper height restrictions in Ohio that this site does not reference.

[itbrokeagain]

Hmmmm. I got on there because Fourwheeler is doing a lift law segment and I saw that they were referencing that site. Maybe the rules have changed. Wilson or Sarge?

[WrenchMonkey]

Ohio is 22" bumper/frame height for "passenger" vehicles. "All other" vehicles go by GVWR, giving frame heights from 24-31". OAC 4501-43-04

The grey area is, what constitues a passenger vehicle, and what constitutes "other?"

ORC 4513.021 (2) says a “'Multipurpose passenger vehicle' means a motor vehicle ... constructed either on a truck chassis or with special features for occasional off-road operation."

So no doubt my XJ is "multipurpose." But is "multipurpose passenger" still "passenger," or is it "other?"

And if it's not "other," what is? The scale is from under 4500# to 10k, so we're not talking about heavy equipment here. My little unibody is almost 5k, for reference.

Hard to say. Badly written law.

Robert

[KennyTJ]

Originally Posted by WrenchMonkey

Ohio is 22" bumper/frame height for "passenger" vehicles. "All other" vehicles go by GVWR, giving frame heights from 24-31". OAC 4501-43-04

The grey area is, what constitues a passenger vehicle, and what constitutes "other?"

ORC 4513.021 (2) says a “'Multipurpose passenger vehicle' means a motor vehicle ... constructed either on a truck chassis or with special features for occasional off-road operation."

So no doubt my XJ is "multipurpose." But is "multipurpose passenger" still "passenger," or is it "other?"

And if it's not "other," what is? The scale is from under 4500# to 10k, so we're not talking about heavy equipment here. My little unibody is almost 5k, for reference.

Hard to say. Badly written law.

Robert

Everything with NON-COM plates is considered passenger car/truck by the title office.

[WrenchMonkey]

Originally Posted by KennyTJ

Everything with NON-COM plates is considered passenger car/truck by the title office.

I can't say you're wrong, but (A) That'd be a really arbitrary (dumb) way to determine allowed lift. A Jeep used to deliver pizzas can be 5-7" taller than one that just fetches them?

And (B) I'll check, but I bet my stock F250 is way over 22" frame height. It'd be a real kick in the teeth to get a lift ticket on a stock rig...

Of course, just because it's arbitrary or unfair doesn't mean it's not the law, so like I said, I can't say you're wrong.

But it is really unclear, and either way, it's poorly written.

Robert

Edit: For what it's worth, the BMV's website lists a $34.50 fee for "Passenger," $49.50 for for "Light Non-Comm" and $84.50 for "Heavy Non-Comm."

I could (and would!) argue that if I'm paying for more than passenger plates, I've got more than a passenger vehicle...

[Hope Springs Hauler]

Goes by the rated GVW. It is placarded on the vehicle.

[KennyTJ]

Originally Posted by WrenchMonkey

I can't say you're wrong, but (A) That'd be a really arbitrary (dumb) way to determine allowed lift. A Jeep used to deliver pizzas can be 5-7" taller than one that just fetches them?

And (B) I'll check, but I bet my stock F250 is way over 22" frame height. It'd be a real kick in the teeth to get a lift ticket on a stock rig...

Of course, just because it's arbitrary or unfair doesn't mean it's not the law, so like I said, I can't say you're wrong.

But it is really unclear, and either way, it's poorly written.

Robert

Edit: For what it's worth, the BMV's website lists a $34.50 fee for "Passenger," $49.50 for for "Light Non-Comm" and $84.50 for "Heavy Non-Comm."

I could (and would!) argue that if I'm paying for more than passenger plates, I've got more than a passenger vehicle...

Yep, I think it's pretty stupid as well, and I'm not proclaiming that's what the cops use to pull people over... That is what I have had personal experiance with at the title office is all.

Yep, it's all double talk and contradiction in the Ohio Revised Code... if it was black and white we would not need Lawyers!!!!

[HumminNBoatin]

Great Post! It is interesting how the law is interperated...... Defenitly leaves you room to get a ticket thrown out in front of the judge.