Shocks

Hybrid · 09-15-2007, 03:43 PM

The last time I went wheeling (Haspin) I broke a rear shock mount. I found out later when i got home that it didn't brake from hitting something but rather the shock was too tall and acting as a "bump stop". When I came off a ledge and the rear leafs compressed the shock buckled and broke the mount. The issue i now have is that all four shocks are too tall, and they all are acting as "bump stops". I know i need to fix this but my question is how? Should I go with shorter shocks and loose some downward flex, or build some hoops and raise the top shock mount and use the same size shocks that i have now? Any input would be great. Thanks :)

What I am kind of thinking at the moment is building hoops in front and putting shorter shocks in the rear.

4RunnerAdam · 09-16-2007, 05:35 AM

Take the shocks off. Flex the rear fully, and measure your fully extended length. Is it shorter than the shock you have now? If so, then you could go with a shorter shock. If not, then I would suggest reworking your shock mount setup by adding a hoop or inverting the mounts.

Hybrid · 09-16-2007, 11:37 AM

What do you mean by "inverting the mounts"?

4RunnerAdam · 09-16-2007, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Hybrid

What do you mean by "inverting the mounts"?

Like I did on my truck. Allows you to run longer shocks without having to run big tall hoops.

http://home.4x4wire.com/adamf/88/ima...shockmount.jpg

scarface · 09-17-2007, 12:11 AM

That might be doable man, I'm just not sure how much room you have down there, all I remember is the fuel pump

94Dodge Truggy · 09-17-2007, 08:42 AM

Repositioning the shocks at an angle underneath may allow you to use the existing shocks and achieve the travel that you are looking for.

chris_dishmon · 09-17-2007, 11:04 AM

i like mine both to the back. sorry the for the poser pic.

Hybrid · 09-17-2007, 11:47 AM

Inverting the shocks sounds like a sweet idea for the rear! I think it could work, i will have to check to see what i have in the way. It looks like I will still need to build hoops for the front though.

Hybrid · 09-18-2007, 12:13 PM

How did you mount the base of the shock to the axle? Did you just weld a bolt head to the axle?

94Dodge Truggy · 09-18-2007, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hybrid

How did you mount the base of the shock to the axle? Did you just weld a bolt head to the axle?

2 plates with a hole through them both for a bolt to travel between them and the shock? Pretty simple

sarge · 09-19-2007, 05:17 AM

Get with Carwash , he can hook you up with some very good shock mounting tabs for very little $$ . easier to buy them pre-fab .

Hybrid · 09-19-2007, 10:16 PM

That would be great!

4RunnerAdam · 09-20-2007, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 94Dodge Truggy

2 plates with a hole through them both for a bolt to travel between them and the shock? Pretty simple

BINGO!

4RunnerAdam · 09-20-2007, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hybrid

. It looks like I will still need to build hoops for the front though.

Cheap and easy way I did it. Go to your Ford dealer and buy some Ford Superduty shock mounts, part number E5TZ-18183-A They cost around $25 for the pair. Weld them directly to the frame. Kind of hard to see them in these pics, but here ya go.... (thats a 14" travel pro comp shock, front tire rubbing in the wheel well, still got travel to go. I set the shock with 7" shock exposed at ride height))

Found a good pic...

fabricator · 09-20-2007, 07:01 AM

You got a body lift on that adam?
i usually have to cut a hole in the
inner wheel well

4RunnerAdam · 09-20-2007, 04:52 PM

Yea Rob....3" body lift. I forgot to add that. Could you not just lower them 3" and weld them on if you dont have a BL? I beleive I've still got some room between the towers and the body.

You actually welded the shock towers on for me! And you built and welded the rear shocks mounts as well!

Hybrid · 09-20-2007, 04:59 PM

Thanks 4runnerAdam, those look sweet and would be easier than hoops!

09-15-2007, 03:43 PM	#1
Hybrid Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fairfield, OH Posts: 134	Shocks The last time I went wheeling (Haspin) I broke a rear shock mount. I found out later when i got home that it didn't brake from hitting something but rather the shock was too tall and acting as a "bump stop". When I came off a ledge and the rear leafs compressed the shock buckled and broke the mount. The issue i now have is that all four shocks are too tall, and they all are acting as "bump stops". I know i need to fix this but my question is how? Should I go with shorter shocks and loose some downward flex, or build some hoops and raise the top shock mount and use the same size shocks that i have now? Any input would be great. Thanks :) What I am kind of thinking at the moment is building hoops in front and putting shorter shocks in the rear. __________________ '84 Cherokee body welded to an '86 Blazer frame , fuel injected 350, 700r4 trans, np208 t-case, 44 front and a welded 14 bolt in the rear on 35" boggers, radiator in the rear, and a full cage

09-16-2007, 11:37 AM	#3
Hybrid Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fairfield, OH Posts: 134	What do you mean by "inverting the mounts"? __________________ '84 Cherokee body welded to an '86 Blazer frame , fuel injected 350, 700r4 trans, np208 t-case, 44 front and a welded 14 bolt in the rear on 35" boggers, radiator in the rear, and a full cage

09-17-2007, 12:11 AM	#5
scarface I beat anorexia! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield Posts: 175	That might be doable man, I'm just not sure how much room you have down there, all I remember is the fuel pump __________________ I believe this will be our finest hour

09-17-2007, 11:04 AM	#7
chris_dishmon "let's fab some $h!t up!! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mt. Healthy Posts: 95	i like mine both to the back. sorry the for the poser pic. __________________ I understand the Jeep thing.......that's why i drive a Toyota. '91 Toyota truck(3.0 to 3.4 swapped) "F@#k vacuum lines my truck sucks enough!"

09-17-2007, 11:47 AM	#8
Hybrid Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fairfield, OH Posts: 134	Inverting the shocks sounds like a sweet idea for the rear! I think it could work, i will have to check to see what i have in the way. It looks like I will still need to build hoops for the front though. __________________ '84 Cherokee body welded to an '86 Blazer frame , fuel injected 350, 700r4 trans, np208 t-case, 44 front and a welded 14 bolt in the rear on 35" boggers, radiator in the rear, and a full cage

09-16-2007, 05:35 AM	#2
4RunnerAdam Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: near eastgate mall Posts: 171	Take the shocks off. Flex the rear fully, and measure your fully extended length. Is it shorter than the shock you have now? If so, then you could go with a shorter shock. If not, then I would suggest reworking your shock mount setup by adding a hoop or inverting the mounts.

09-17-2007, 08:42 AM	#6
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	Repositioning the shocks at an angle underneath may allow you to use the existing shocks and achieve the travel that you are looking for.

09-18-2007, 12:13 PM	#9
Hybrid Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fairfield, OH Posts: 134	How did you mount the base of the shock to the axle? Did you just weld a bolt head to the axle? __________________ '84 Cherokee body welded to an '86 Blazer frame , fuel injected 350, 700r4 trans, np208 t-case, 44 front and a welded 14 bolt in the rear on 35" boggers, radiator in the rear, and a full cage

09-19-2007, 05:17 AM	#11
sarge Pure Bacon Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trenton, Oh Posts: 1,098	Get with Carwash , he can hook you up with some very good shock mounting tabs for very little $$ . easier to buy them pre-fab .

09-19-2007, 10:16 PM	#12
Hybrid Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fairfield, OH Posts: 134	That would be great! __________________ '84 Cherokee body welded to an '86 Blazer frame , fuel injected 350, 700r4 trans, np208 t-case, 44 front and a welded 14 bolt in the rear on 35" boggers, radiator in the rear, and a full cage

09-20-2007, 07:01 AM	#15
fabricator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cincy, Oh Posts: 947	You got a body lift on that adam? i usually have to cut a hole in the inner wheel well __________________ For you guys who can't drive, I have owned a frame rack for several years. Prices are based on your skill and ability to wreck it....

09-20-2007, 04:52 PM	#16
4RunnerAdam Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: near eastgate mall Posts: 171	Yea Rob....3" body lift. I forgot to add that. Could you not just lower them 3" and weld them on if you dont have a BL? I beleive I've still got some room between the towers and the body. You actually welded the shock towers on for me! And you built and welded the rear shocks mounts as well! Last edited by 4RunnerAdam; 09-20-2007 at 04:55 PM.

09-20-2007, 04:59 PM	#17
Hybrid Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fairfield, OH Posts: 134	Thanks 4runnerAdam, those look sweet and would be easier than hoops! __________________ '84 Cherokee body welded to an '86 Blazer frame , fuel injected 350, 700r4 trans, np208 t-case, 44 front and a welded 14 bolt in the rear on 35" boggers, radiator in the rear, and a full cage