Custom waterjet work $?$

JeffK5 · 03-09-2010, 08:02 PM

Whose had it done and how much .. did you provide the drawing/dxf. file or material ?

I'm having some custom strut mounts made ... each part has roughly 15" of cut path, I provided the 2D Autocad print to the waterjet shop and they're doing the programing.

I was quoted $40 out the door for a qty. of 8 and they provide the A36 1/4" plate.. I thought that sounded damn cheap.. I wouldn't even start making these on a mill for that.

Any thoughts?

biggin69 · 03-09-2010, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffK5

Whose had it done and how much .. did you provide the drawing/dxf. file or material ?

I'm having some custom strut mounts made ... each part has roughly 15" of cut path, I provided the 2D Autocad print to the waterjet shop and they're doing the programing.

I was quoted $40 out the door for a qty. of 8 and they provide the A36 1/4" plate.. I thought that sounded damn cheap.. I wouldn't even start making these on a mill for that.

Any thoughts?

Definatly sounds cheap. I talked to the owner of a local machine recently about making some tabs and such and he said no job was to small right now and all I needed to do was scetch them out on paper with a few measurements. I have yet to get a quote though.

94Dodge Truggy · 03-09-2010, 09:18 PM

cheap for sure. i was thinking 3 times that if i were quoting it.

KennyTJ · 03-09-2010, 09:19 PM

Just depends on how buisy the shop is. If they are hungry and need anything you can get stuff done real cheap, if they're buisy you can't get it at all!!!

android · 03-09-2010, 09:29 PM

I am looking to have some custom work done... Maybe post the shop name & number? Then we all can take advantage ofd those smokin rates!:) :)

JeffK5 · 03-09-2010, 10:01 PM

Once I get them back I'll post some pics .. I haven't seen there quality or accuraccy.

If I'm satisfied with the product I'll get the OK from them to put there shop # out.

RD TRCTR · 03-10-2010, 10:21 AM

For what you're having done and the price they quoted that is dirt floor cheap.

carwash · 03-10-2010, 08:41 PM

Pmd you, get back to me you fag...

cheapthrills49 · 03-11-2010, 08:14 PM

depending on the size, the material might cost that. but on the other hand that might be cuttin your stuff outa some other customers scrap while they are burnin that program;)

JeffK5 · 03-11-2010, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cheapthrills49

depending on the size, the material might cost that. but on the other hand that might be cuttin your stuff outa some other customers scrap while they are burnin that program;)

I guarantee they are doing exactly that....this is also a legit job with receipt and all.

The shop owner seemed very interested in small/easy/non-contract custom jobs like this.

JeffK5 · 03-26-2010, 04:19 PM

Here are my brackets...I was very pleased with fit and finish.

TomH · 03-26-2010, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffK5

Once I get them back I'll post some pics .. I haven't seen there quality or accuraccy.

If I'm satisfied with the product I'll get the OK from them to put there shop # out.

...and the verdict is?

JeffK5 · 03-26-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TomH

...and the verdict is?

I ran into one problem..the owner isn't interested in having to convert a hand drawn print into CAM form.

I have a friend's son that works for the waterjet shop and will , for a small fee, convert your drawing/print into a dxf. file that can be directly loaded into the waterjet.

It will work like this ... contact my friends son and provide him with your drawing/print/ idea in your head... he then draws it into AutoCad and has it quoted ... you get a total cost.

He also wouldn't be responsible if your idea looks like **** once translated to steel..

carwash · 03-26-2010, 11:07 PM

can i provide my own dxf?

TomH · 03-27-2010, 02:28 AM

Like Carwash, I can generate DXFs. Not sure what's up with the secret agent stuff, but, it's a deal killer for me.

Thanks.

JeffK5 · 03-27-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TomH

Like Carwash, I can generate DXFs. Not sure what's up with the secret agent stuff, but, it's a deal killer for me.

Thanks.

No secret agent .. just most people don't have the equipment/ability to generate a dxf. ...He wants the work he just doesn't want two dozen home fab guys knocking on his door with projects doodled on napkins. He's got plenty of work , I'm sure he'll survive without yours..;)

Mike , I don't know if he wants to keep it simple and only deal through my buddies son or if he will take dxf. files directly... I'll try to find out more info and post up.

502EFI · 03-27-2010, 04:43 PM

My two friends own Mainstream waterjet in loveland, off union cemetery rd. Google for their website.

They have quite a few waterjet machines and a hurco CNC mill. I dont know if they will work that cheap, they might.

TomH · 03-27-2010, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 502EFI

My two friends own Mainstream waterjet in loveland, off union cemetery rd. Google for their website.

They have quite a few waterjet machines and a hurco CNC mill. I dont know if they will work that cheap, they might.

Being able to do a straight up deal is worth something. The cloak & dagger secret shop where you have to deal through an anonymous "buddies son" with no accountability sounds a bit squirrely.

Thanks.

carwash · 03-27-2010, 10:00 PM

How is it cloak and dagger? The guy works at the shop, and will convert your file for you for a small fee? Nothing anonymous, and where is there no accountability? Where did you get all this? How is this not a straight up deal, as you call it?

"son that works for the waterjet shop and will , for a small fee, convert your drawing/print into a dxf. file that can be directly loaded into the waterjet."

"contact my friends son and provide him with your drawing/print/ idea in your head... he then draws it into AutoCad and has it quoted ... you get a total cost."

Where is the difficulty here? Seems like it has been made easier for us. We have one contact, he makes a file if you need it, then gets you a total cost for the job. You get a receipt for a legit job done, no back door, no shady etc. Yes, very cloak and dagger indeed.

TomH · 03-27-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by carwash

How is it cloak and dagger?

What's the issue with a customer or prospective customer sending a request for a quotation? I've worked with shops that quote from "machine ready" files or they charge a separate fee, but I haven't dealt with a "buddy's kid" before.

What is the issue with letting a prospective customer know the shop's name? (Cincy is essentially a "small town" and it's hard to hide your reputation.)

The reluctance to name names comes across as somebody doing work "on the side" (i.e. Using the company's equipment and materials) and selling it "out the back door." That may not be the case here, but...

You run a shop, is this how you do business?

carwash · 03-27-2010, 11:50 PM

I see no issue at all with sending a request for a quote. What do you care what person in the company you send it to?

I think the co. name is being withheld until Jeff knows if this guy wants to do a ton of small jobs for peeps...

I dunno... I don't run a waterjet or machine shop, etc, so i can't say how I would do it.

I'm just saying, doesn't seem very cloak and dagger or secretive to me. Doesn't really matter anyway.... no one is making anyone use them.

JeffK5 · 03-28-2010, 10:51 AM

Mike ,thanks for "getting it"

RuffedUpXJ · 03-28-2010, 03:24 PM

Mike I could probably convert something to DXF if you need to. Depends on what you have it in now or if you have it on your computer yet.

Waffle · 03-28-2010, 06:05 PM

For those not wanting to deal with the buddy......if you have a scanner you can download free software that will convert your drawing directly to dxf. Google is your friend here......

03-09-2010, 08:02 PM	#1
JeffK5 Tiny Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Colerain Posts: 798	Custom waterjet work $?$ Whose had it done and how much .. did you provide the drawing/dxf. file or material ? I'm having some custom strut mounts made ... each part has roughly 15" of cut path, I provided the 2D Autocad print to the waterjet shop and they're doing the programing. I was quoted $40 out the door for a qty. of 8 and they provide the A36 1/4" plate.. I thought that sounded damn cheap.. I wouldn't even start making these on a mill for that. Any thoughts?

03-09-2010, 09:18 PM	#3
94Dodge Truggy EX-Vice President Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fairfield, Ohio Posts: 3,048	cheap for sure. i was thinking 3 times that if i were quoting it. __________________

03-09-2010, 09:29 PM	#5
android Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Milford Posts: 12	damn cheap! I am looking to have some custom work done... Maybe post the shop name & number? Then we all can take advantage ofd those smokin rates!:) :)

03-10-2010, 08:41 PM	#8
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	Pmd you, get back to me you fag... __________________

03-11-2010, 08:14 PM	#9
cheapthrills49 VANILLA GORILLA Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: blanmolester, ohio.......stonelick lake Posts: 192	depending on the size, the material might cost that. but on the other hand that might be cuttin your stuff outa some other customers scrap while they are burnin that program;) __________________ I EAT BURRITOS ON EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!

03-09-2010, 09:19 PM	#4
KennyTJ The Pirate Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lebanon, Oh. Posts: 297	Just depends on how buisy the shop is. If they are hungry and need anything you can get stuff done real cheap, if they're buisy you can't get it at all!!!

03-09-2010, 10:01 PM	#6
JeffK5 Tiny Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Colerain Posts: 798	Once I get them back I'll post some pics .. I haven't seen there quality or accuraccy. If I'm satisfied with the product I'll get the OK from them to put there shop # out.

03-10-2010, 10:21 AM	#7
RD TRCTR Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Troy, OH Posts: 94	For what you're having done and the price they quoted that is dirt floor cheap.

03-26-2010, 04:19 PM	#11
JeffK5 Tiny Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Colerain Posts: 798	Here are my brackets...I was very pleased with fit and finish. Attached Thumbnails

03-26-2010, 11:07 PM	#14
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	can i provide my own dxf? __________________

03-27-2010, 02:28 AM	#15
TomH Gearhead Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Anderson Posts: 95	Like Carwash, I can generate DXFs. Not sure what's up with the secret agent stuff, but, it's a deal killer for me. Thanks.

03-27-2010, 04:43 PM	#17
502EFI Join Date: May 2007 Location: Oxford Posts: 21	My two friends own Mainstream waterjet in loveland, off union cemetery rd. Google for their website. They have quite a few waterjet machines and a hurco CNC mill. I dont know if they will work that cheap, they might.

03-27-2010, 10:00 PM	#19
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	How is it cloak and dagger? The guy works at the shop, and will convert your file for you for a small fee? Nothing anonymous, and where is there no accountability? Where did you get all this? How is this not a straight up deal, as you call it? "son that works for the waterjet shop and will , for a small fee, convert your drawing/print into a dxf. file that can be directly loaded into the waterjet." "contact my friends son and provide him with your drawing/print/ idea in your head... he then draws it into AutoCad and has it quoted ... you get a total cost." Where is the difficulty here? Seems like it has been made easier for us. We have one contact, he makes a file if you need it, then gets you a total cost for the job. You get a receipt for a legit job done, no back door, no shady etc. Yes, very cloak and dagger indeed. __________________

03-27-2010, 11:50 PM	#21
carwash pimpin' IS easy Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Union, KY Posts: 3,344 Images: 605	I see no issue at all with sending a request for a quote. What do you care what person in the company you send it to? I think the co. name is being withheld until Jeff knows if this guy wants to do a ton of small jobs for peeps... I dunno... I don't run a waterjet or machine shop, etc, so i can't say how I would do it. I'm just saying, doesn't seem very cloak and dagger or secretive to me. Doesn't really matter anyway.... no one is making anyone use them. __________________

03-28-2010, 10:51 AM	#22
JeffK5 Tiny Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Colerain Posts: 798	Mike ,thanks for "getting it"

03-28-2010, 03:24 PM	#23
RuffedUpXJ On XJ 2 Now Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fairfield Twp. Posts: 314	Mike I could probably convert something to DXF if you need to. Depends on what you have it in now or if you have it on your computer yet. __________________ 88 XJ - 5" lift - 35" BFG's - Bumpers - Rock Rails - Homebrewed OBA - Roof Rack - Tube Doors - Trimmed - Dented 87 XJ - D44 - Disco D30 - 235's - 231TC - Stock for now

03-28-2010, 06:05 PM	#24
Waffle Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: . Posts: 75 Images: 10	For those not wanting to deal with the buddy......if you have a scanner you can download free software that will convert your drawing directly to dxf. Google is your friend here......